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Iraqi Interrogator's Nightmare

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An Iraq Interrogator's Nightmare

By Eric Fair
Friday, February 9, 2007; A19

A man with no face stares at me from the corner of a room. He pleads for help, but I'm afraid to move. He begins to cry. It is a pitiful sound, and it sickens me. He screams, but as I awaken, I realize the screams are mine.

That dream, along with a host of other nightmares, has plagued me since my return from Iraq in the summer of 2004. Though the man in this particular nightmare has no face, I know who he is. I assisted in his interrogation at a detention facility in Fallujah. I was one of two civilian interrogators assigned to the division interrogation facility (DIF) of the 82nd Airborne Division. The man, whose name I've long since forgotten, was a suspected associate of Khamis Sirhan al-Muhammad, the Baath Party leader in Anbar province who had been captured two months earlier.

The lead interrogator at the DIF had given me specific instructions: I was to deprive the detainee of sleep during my 12-hour shift by opening his cell every hour, forcing him to stand in a corner and stripping him of his clothes. Three years later the tables have turned. It is rare that I sleep through the night without a visit from this man. His memory harasses me as I once harassed him.

Despite my best efforts, I cannot ignore the mistakes I made at the interrogation facility in Fallujah. I failed to disobey a meritless order, I failed to protect a prisoner in my custody, and I failed to uphold the standards of human decency. Instead, I intimidated, degraded and humiliated a man who could not defend himself. I compromised my values. I will never forgive myself.

American authorities continue to insist that the abuse of Iraqi prisoners at Abu Ghraib was an isolated incident in an otherwise well-run detention system. That insistence, however, stands in sharp contrast to my own experiences as an interrogator in Iraq. I watched as detainees were forced to stand naked all night, shivering in their cold cells and pleading with their captors for help. Others were subjected to long periods of isolation in pitch-black rooms. Food and sleep deprivation were common, along with a variety of physical abuse, including punching and kicking. Aggressive, and in many ways abusive, techniques were used daily in Iraq, all in the name of acquiring the intelligence necessary to bring an end to the insurgency. The violence raging there today is evidence that those tactics never worked. My memories are evidence that those tactics were terribly wrong.

While I was appalled by the conduct of my friends and colleagues, I lacked the courage to challenge the status quo. That was a failure of character and in many ways made me complicit in what went on. I'm ashamed of that failure, but as time passes, and as the memories of what I saw in Iraq continue to infect my every thought, I'm becoming more ashamed of my silence.

Some may suggest there is no reason to revive the story of abuse in Iraq. Rehashing such mistakes will only harm our country, they will say. But history suggests we should examine such missteps carefully. Oppressive prison environments have created some of the most determined opponents. The British learned that lesson from Napoleon, the French from Ho Chi Minh, Europe from Hitler. The world is learning that lesson again from Ayman al-Zawahiri. What will be the legacy of abusive prisons in Iraq?

We have failed to properly address the abuse of Iraqi detainees. Men like me have refused to tell our stories, and our leaders have refused to own up to the myriad mistakes that have been made. But if we fail to address this problem, there can be no hope of success in Iraq. Regardless of how many young Americans we send to war, or how many militia members we kill, or how many Iraqis we train, or how much money we spend on reconstruction, we will not escape the damage we have done to the people of Iraq in our prisons.

I am desperate to get on with my life and erase my memories of my experiences in Iraq. But those memories and experiences do not belong to me. They belong to history. If we're doomed to repeat the history we forget, what will be the consequences of the history we never knew? The citizens and the leadership of this country have an obligation to revisit what took place in the interrogation booths of Iraq, unpleasant as it may be. The story of Abu Ghraib isn't over. In many ways, we have yet to open the book.

The writer served in the Army from 1995 to 2000 as an Arabic linguist and worked in Iraq as a contract interrogator in early 2004.
I tend to agree; people want to forget too easily. Even something like the holocausts of 1927-45 somehow get jaded and lose their social impact; reinterpreted emotionally somehow even if the facts are remembered.

Its like the social body can't heal the trauma without leaving itself open to re-infection.
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A evil man having nightmares about the evil he did?

He deserve it, to bad that his victims are worse of.
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A evil man having nightmares about the evil he did?

He deserve it, to bad that his victims are worse of.
excuse me but how does he deserve it?

He was following orders from the top commanders. If he had refused, he would have been charged with insubornation and treason. The people who ordered it ( Bush, Cheney and the Pentagon ) should be getting the nightmare.
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I think 'evil' is too strong a term for him. Perhaps he wasn't strong enough to stand up and face the consequences of his actions, and a lot aren't, but evil implies he did what he did gleefully. Moreso, I doubt a truly evil person would feel such guilt.
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Dennis Toy wrote:excuse me but how does he deserve it?

He was following orders from the top commanders. If he had refused, he would have been charged with insubornation and treason. The people who ordered it ( Bush, Cheney and the Pentagon ) should be getting the nightmare.
Buy his own admision:
I failed to disobey a meritless order, I failed to protect a prisoner in my custody, and I failed to uphold the standards of human decency.
And he was a civilian contractor, he could not be ordered like a soldier.

Also "I was only obeying order" is not a valid defence as proven in many warcrimes trials.
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Kojiro wrote:I think 'evil' is too strong a term for him. Perhaps he wasn't strong enough to stand up and face the consequences of his actions, and a lot aren't, but evil implies he did what he did gleefully. Moreso, I doubt a truly evil person would feel such guilt.
I tend to look at an individual from two perspectives: One, are they evil in an "objective" sense - are they consistently acting as an agent for evil, causing harm? Two, are their intentions good or evil, do they strive to do good or take glee in causing harm?

This torturer was, I believe, objectively harmful - an agent for evil. Subjectively... he's remorseful now. I'm not sure if he enjoyed it at the time, but I'll probably give him the benefit of the doubt that he didnt.

Where he goes from here, now that he realises the error of his ways, is a matter of his actions. If he works to bring light to what's going on and change interrogation practises, he's doing good. This article seems to be evidence of that.

That's my perspective on it anyway.
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Dennis Toy wrote:
A evil man having nightmares about the evil he did?

He deserve it, to bad that his victims are worse of.
excuse me but how does he deserve it?

He was following orders from the top commanders
I guess that makes it all better now. :roll: I guess "I was only following orders" is a valid excuse in war crimes trial. Oh wait, its not.

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He was civilian who was not part of command structure, so he's got no real excuse to hide behind a uniform but he seems genuinely guilty - of course some of the Nuremberg defendants seemed genuinely sorry, but they still swung. What makes things worse this civilian man directly participated in the torture, while in Auschwitz you had SS guards who never directly harmed anyone or fired their rifles in anger but were complicit in genocide by manning the guard towers.
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I believe that the Milgram Experiment (Wikipedia Warning) may explain why he did what he did, but not excuse it.
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