See Games Workshop Sue these guys...

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2007-02-13 01:03pm

Here a player uses arrows and the tape measure to determine how far the enemy is. Models shown are representations of models by Games Workshop.

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Dartzap · Post by **Dartzap** » 2007-02-13 01:44pm

Interesting concept, but GW are quite trigger happy usually, so yeah, so long and thanks for all the fish...

InnocentBystander · Post by **InnocentBystander** » 2007-02-13 02:02pm

Oh god, this would be perfect for that game of Battlefleet Gothic we wanted to do.

Azazal · Post by **Azazal** » 2007-02-13 02:09pm

If they were smart, they would pull the GW based images and use some generic or WW2 models. Most likely GW will scream IP infringement, then they'll pull the models and continue on with their program.

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2007-02-13 03:11pm

Oh god, this is awesome.

Tasoth · Post by **Tasoth** » 2007-02-13 04:38pm

if the models are easy to import, they should go generic and allow users to create and bring their own models in. It would really, really keep them safe and increase their user base.

Stark · Post by **Stark** » 2007-02-13 04:58pm

Yeah, simply having the model format open and a forum full of 40k models would be much, much smarter than basically saying 'yo come sue us'.

On the other hand, this is the sort of miniatures game we've all wanted.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2007-02-13 05:37pm

Good idea, and they've basically done one of the dumber things.

Why didn't they just use generic WW2 models, most know what this program will be used for, but blantantly going "See WH40K games!!!" is just painting the bull's eye on your ass and asking them to go deep.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2007-02-13 05:44pm

The 40k models are placeholders, the game won't ship with them, but with a generic set of 3d models....but like GR said, using 40K stuff in their promos is just asking for trouble

Xisiqomelir · Post by **Xisiqomelir** » 2007-02-13 06:58pm

Apprentice/Mindless Automaton for tabletop gaming. Awesome.

Uraniun235 · Post by **Uraniun235** » 2007-02-13 07:53pm

I predict at least one crippling aneurysm over at Games Workshop over this development.

Solauren · Post by **Solauren** » 2007-02-13 08:08pm

Or Games Workshop trying to buy the program

Stark · Post by **Stark** » 2007-02-13 08:14pm

Uraniun235 wrote:I predict at least one crippling aneurysm over at Games Workshop over this development.

They've deliberately made suck games out of their system for years: eventually, they must have known someone would just make their own.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2007-02-13 08:20pm

Solauren wrote:Or Games Workshop trying to buy the program

They'll only buy it in order to shelve it, never intending to release it.

Adrian Laguna · Post by **Adrian Laguna** » 2007-02-13 08:34pm

Stark wrote:
Uraniun235 wrote:I predict at least one crippling aneurysm over at Games Workshop over this development.
They've deliberately made suck games out of their system for years: eventually, they must have known someone would just make their own.

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:
Solauren wrote:Or Games Workshop trying to buy the program
They'll only buy it in order to shelve it, never intending to release it.

You gotta remember, the miniatures and rulebooks are extremely expensive for the customer and a real cash cow for the GW. The company has to be very careful about any material it releases that's related to their main product. The material has to promote the tabletop game, not compete against it, because this would be akin to deliberately crippling their cash cow.

That is the reason why Dawn of War is in the end just another generic RTS, with base building and troop rushes. It has none of the table-top game's tactical depth because then people would start preferring the cheaper PC game.

Stark · Post by **Stark** » 2007-02-13 08:39pm

Err... no shit? We all know why they do it. Doesn't mean they should be surprised someone else just made one themselves.

Arthur_Tuxedo · Post by **Arthur_Tuxedo** » 2007-02-13 09:36pm

Seems interesting. I wonder how it works with multiple people. If it has models for different settings, it might be useful for PnP RPGing, in addition to wargaming.

J_Cayman · Post by **J_Cayman** » 2007-02-14 12:23am

Looks like a 3d version of Little Cyber Wars or Vassal.

Exmoor Cat · Post by **Exmoor Cat** » 2007-02-14 03:25am

Unlikely to be sued as they've properly acknowledged the copyright source.

Exmoor Cat · Post by **Exmoor Cat** » 2007-02-14 03:35am

Am I being thick by not finding the download link for the core game?

2000AD · Post by **2000AD** » 2007-02-14 05:52am

Adrian Laguna wrote: That is the reason why Dawn of War is in the end just another generic RTS, with base building and troop rushes. It has none of the table-top game's tactical depth because then people would start preferring the cheaper PC game.

And because previous attempts to make a straight up 40k video game had fallen flat on their face.

Brother-Captain Gaius · Post by **Brother-Captain Gaius** » 2007-02-14 07:46am

Exmoor Cat wrote:Am I being thick by not finding the download link for the core game?

It isn't finished yet. You can only download the map-making utility as of yet.