nBSG: "Dirty Hands"

Elessar · Post by **Elessar** » 2007-02-25 10:36pm

Baltar has officially gotten more awesome. This episode is absolutely unbelievable.

Post by **LadyTevar** » 2007-02-25 10:37pm

I'm still having to wonder.... Truth or lie. Arilian, or just a fuckin' good impressionist?

Lonestar · Post by **Lonestar** » 2007-02-25 10:39pm

Vehrec wrote:Yeah, I wondered that myself.

Also, somthing we should have seen a long time ago comes out. These ships are not picnics. They aren't pleasent. A lot of them are dirty. A lot of them stink to high heaven. The Chief has a big point here. And nobody's listening to a rational man today.

Especially when the President says "You think the people on the munitions and Algae ships are having a picnic?"

CaptJodan · Post by **CaptJodan** » 2007-02-25 10:39pm

Moore hates if a character doesn't get enough time to be an ass at something. Adama is, by and large, an honorable man. He makes mistakes, but he never came across as someone who just dismisses certain things out of hand, especially from someone he likes and trusts like the Chief. We have now two back to back episodes with him and Roslin both sticking their fingers in their ears and going "la la la" to anyone with half a braincell that seems to see a problem that needs, desperately, to be resolved. It's annoying because these characters just don't seem like the type to do that so effortlessly when we've seen competant leadership from both Roslin and Adama on countless other occasions.

Feil · Post by **Feil** » 2007-02-25 10:40pm

It only takes a few pro-Baltar people reading the book, convincing their friends to 'at least have a look', and having those friends sucked in by the almost-but-not-quite-truths that a guy like Baltar is more than capable of coming up with. Start the cascade, and you're good to go.

Post by **fgalkin** » 2007-02-25 10:41pm

Vehrec wrote:Whoa. The Arilion accent is quite familiar, but I can't place it. Anyone put a finner point on it?

Tigh?

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

CDiehl · Post by **CDiehl** » 2007-02-25 10:42pm

Whoa. The Arilion accent is quite familiar, but I can't place it. Anyone put a finner point on it?

I was thinking Yorkshire, because it sounds to me like Sean Bean's accent.

I'm not sure I buy this "grew up on a dairy farm" story Baltar's suddenly peddling. Why didn't he push this background in his campaign for President last season? I think Chief's right and it's made-up bullshit to appeal to people for some reason of his own. Maybe he thinks he'll rally the people to push for his release and try to retake the Presidency.

Vehrec · Post by **Vehrec** » 2007-02-25 10:44pm

See that man? That was the straw. The freaking back just broke on the camel.

Post by **fgalkin** » 2007-02-25 10:44pm

Here it comes....

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

The Prime Necromancer · Post by **The Prime Necromancer** » 2007-02-25 10:44pm

Frankly, it would have been smarter (and easier for me to accept its popularity) if Baltar had released it anonymously.

skotos · Post by **skotos** » 2007-02-25 10:46pm

I for one think it would be quite funny if the Cylons attacked en masse right the fuck now.

Feil · Post by **Feil** » 2007-02-25 10:47pm

Sure... if Baltar was trying to start a revolution. Baltar is doing what Baltar has always done: trying to save his own ass, regardless of the harm it does to everybody else. What good would it have done to work to start a popular revolution when the public wants you dead?

Master of Cards · Post by **Master of Cards** » 2007-02-25 10:47pm

if there wasn't a season 4 I would agree that would be a good way to end it

CaptJodan · Post by **CaptJodan** » 2007-02-25 10:48pm

The Prime Necromancer wrote:Frankly, it would have been smarter (and easier for me to accept its popularity) if Baltar had released it anonymously.

I see this as a not-too-subtle setup to the trial. Get some of the public on Baltar's side so that it is plausable that he somehow gets off on all the charges or whatever. At least gain sympathy for him so that it's more than just a mob wanting to hang his ass.

Burak Gazan · Post by **Burak Gazan** » 2007-02-25 10:49pm

So, isnt this just a big happy fleet now

This is seriously frakked up

Elessar · Post by **Elessar** » 2007-02-25 10:49pm

CaptJodan wrote:Moore hates if a character doesn't get enough time to be an ass at something. Adama is, by and large, an honorable man. He makes mistakes, but he never came across as someone who just dismisses certain things out of hand, especially from someone he likes and trusts like the Chief. We have now two back to back episodes with him and Roslin both sticking their fingers in their ears and going "la la la" to anyone with half a braincell that seems to see a problem that needs, desperately, to be resolved. It's annoying because these characters just don't seem like the type to do that so effortlessly when we've seen competant leadership from both Roslin and Adama on countless other occasions.

Thing is, what they're doing is perfectly sensible from their end. The number of minor complaints daily must be enormous, considering the frustration of the fleet in general. I don't exactly see a problem with the two have a caviler attitude about working conditions in general.

Of course, what Adama's doing with Cally is pretty... sketchy. Still defensible... kinda...

Post by **LadyTevar** » 2007-02-25 10:50pm

As the grandaughter and neice of coalminers... this is damn familar.

Did you notice some of the hardhats were just a peice of metal rivetted to a leather cap? The new kid had no workgloves? I think his arm's crushed... gauze ain't gonna do shit.

Post by **fgalkin** » 2007-02-25 10:50pm

WTF?

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2007-02-25 10:51pm

Adama needs slapped too.

CDiehl · Post by **CDiehl** » 2007-02-25 10:51pm

Holy shit, Admiral's gone bonkers. The point is, everything effects everyone in the fleet, so it's not all about getting the tylium refiners overtime or whatnot.

Feil · Post by **Feil** » 2007-02-25 10:51pm

Oh no, I can't commit mutiny on a warship at a time of war without getting shot? How can it be?!

skotos · Post by **skotos** » 2007-02-25 10:52pm

God damn, Adama is a hard mother fucker. Where are those damn Cylons?

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2007-02-25 10:54pm

Huh, look at that. President Airlock is a labor democrat.

Master of Cards · Post by **Master of Cards** » 2007-02-25 10:54pm

This is turning into a Fuedual system FAST

Feil · Post by **Feil** » 2007-02-25 10:55pm

skotos wrote:God damn, Adama is a hard mother fucker. Where are those damn Cylons?

Suffering from a 17% deficiency in their officer corps?

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