PayBack wrote:Are you sure? Wasn't one of their cruisers taken out by normal (megaton level) nukes?
You're thinking of the Wraith? Yes. They've been destroyed by nuclear weapons.
Teleported inside. A nuclear weapon detonated against the hull of a wraith hive ship crippled it once. But it was ready to fly soon after. And we have no clue what the yeild of either weapon was.
I don't recall exactly tbh but I didn't think all the nukes carried by the earth ships were naguida (sp?) enhanced? Having said that even if they were, the fact such a young race can take them down with relative ease is disappointing.
Now we're into territory like the Vorlons and Shadows from Babylon 5; There simply might not be that much more to learn. Stupid and implausible as it is, you'll note that Sam Carter had something to contribute in designing the kull-killer and so on. Evidently the technology is very simple and easy to learn about. Earth is apparently up there, some how, technologically. I like to think that most of the design for their battlecruisers was done by the Asgard; given their evident sophistication. Additionally, bits of them are clearly salvaged goa'uld technology, and the goa'uld's technology base is in part influenced by the Ancients...
True a fighter isn't much, but again having beaten the ancients I expected better from them.
It's more like a combine harvester than a fighter. It often seems primarily designed for vacuuming up human populations, rather than fighting.
PREDATOR490 wrote:They only appear to have a single weapon bank for the Drones and the Drones are not so impressive if they can be evaded by a helocopter and jumpers repeatedly.
Fortunately, SW capital ships traditionally use a space variant of Napoleonic 'line up and shoot' infantry tactics. They don't exactly evade enemy fire. Certainly not as much as a Puddle Jumper (which has been seen to accellerate on at least the same order of magnitude as SW capships, FYI, death gliders have a linear accelleration three times greater than their SW equivalents) typically does, and the chopper evaded it when it was accidentally fired, and then only once.
Ground wise the Ancients have no armor
You have no justification for saying that. Of course, open field ground warfare is obsolete once you're in space and have any ortillery to speak of; it's only the ass-cover of theatre shields that makes it anything but laughable in Star Wars, and the Ancients appear to have phase-shifting weapons: In other words, they would win engagements against ground by shooting it from space, if they were in a position to.
and definetly dont have anything resembling the kind of armies SW can field.
Actually, we've seen that they
can create a self-replicating ground force of super-soldiers, and experimented with it in the war against the Wraith. The Asurans. Of course, it snapped them in the ass, but for all we know, they went and made Asuran point two after bombing the Asuran world back to the stone age. The Kull Warriors were made with what appeared to be the Ancients' tech base, after all.
I find it unlikely the Ancients will use large scale weapons against anyone, they didnt against the Wraith even when they were losing badly.
That's odd. I recall one planet that was literally ringed with the debris of Wraith ships. They didn't blow up Pegasus, but other than that, we have no idea what kind of weapons they used. Sure, they're supposedly moral, but when they're up against the wall, who knows how much they'll hold back because of civillians? They've left the population of Pegasus to suffer under the Wraith for ten thousand years merely to keep their dainty glowing appendages clean, after all.
They decided to hide behind their shields and bugger off through the Stargate.
Hence in a war I get the feeling the Ancients would be relatively passive given that SW has no way of crossing the distance between galaxies.
Or they'll decide to teach the Empire a lesson for the impudence of these 'mere humans' and blow up their home-system, then laugh as the warlords start scrabbling about for a piece of Palpy's Pie.
Of course, that's hypothetical smart ones. The usual ones would probably just try a Borg Banzai charge every few decades, and come up with over-convoluted plans that inevitably snap them in the ass, after the fashion of Dr Evil.
