nBSG Episode 317: "Maelstrom"...

Agent Fisher · Post by **Agent Fisher** » 2007-03-04 10:35pm

By contrast to the previous Lee/Kara scenes, these are actually good.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2007-03-04 10:35pm

Lee, you dumb peice of shit! Let her stay grounded!

Agent Fisher · Post by **Agent Fisher** » 2007-03-04 10:42pm

Kara's mom, a pissed off, washed up Colonial Marine.

Agent Fisher · Post by **Agent Fisher** » 2007-03-04 10:54pm

Holy Frak.

Burak Gazan · Post by **Burak Gazan** » 2007-03-04 10:55pm

Jesus H Christ

CDiehl · Post by **CDiehl** » 2007-03-04 10:55pm

Well, this is horrible. Not sure whether or not to hope she made it somehow.

CDiehl · Post by **CDiehl** » 2007-03-04 10:57pm

Sad, sad ending. Don't know what else to say.

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2007-03-04 10:57pm

Taking all bets! Cylon, rescued at the last second by Leoben, or actually dead!

Brother-Captain Gaius · Post by **Brother-Captain Gaius** » 2007-03-04 10:58pm

That was intense.

I think I'll give it a 5, actually.

RedImperator · Post by **RedImperator** » 2007-03-04 10:58pm

Gil Hamilton wrote:Taking all bets! Cylon, rescued at the last second by Leoben, or actually dead!

She's going to wake up in a tank, but she's not a Cylon. Or she wasn't, anyway. I think that piece of her ovary they took is finally going to pay off.

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2007-03-04 11:00pm

RedImperator wrote:She's going to wake up in a tank, but she's not a Cylon. Or she wasn't, anyway. I think that piece of her ovary they took is finally going to pay off.

Problem with that is that even if they clone her, she'll be an infant, not Kara.

Vehrec · Post by **Vehrec** » 2007-03-04 11:01pm

Ten bucks on DEAD.
"Always look on the bright side of death.
Just before you draw your terminal breath.
Life's a piece of shit
When you look at it.
Life's a laugh and death's a joke it's true."

Post by **Vympel** » 2007-03-04 11:01pm

Episode synopsis, please.

Noble Ire · Post by **Noble Ire** » 2007-03-04 11:01pm

I think you called it, Gil; she's a cylon. Of course, I sort of want her to be dead, for her sake and ours, but she's not going to be.

Still, that was a ballsy and unexpected twist, and I commend the producers for it. Perhaps nBSG is on its way back to full form for the season finale.

Post by **LadyTevar** » 2007-03-04 11:02pm

I didn't cry... until Adama put the Aurora doll on his model sailing ship ...

... and then smashed it to pieces.

consequences · Post by **consequences** » 2007-03-04 11:03pm

RedImperator wrote:
Gil Hamilton wrote:Taking all bets! Cylon, rescued at the last second by Leoben, or actually dead!
She's going to wake up in a tank, but she's not a Cylon. Or she wasn't, anyway. I think that piece of her ovary they took is finally going to pay off.

Now that would actually be interesting as hell, especially if they specifically reveal the other five Cylon models as being other than her to fake us out with her supposedly being really dead.

skotos · Post by **skotos** » 2007-03-04 11:03pm

I'm going with the raider turns out to be real, and rescued her, probably after she ejected without Lee noticing.

LadyTevar wrote:I didn't cry... until Adama put the Aurora doll on his model sailing ship ...

That was the best moment in the episode, IMHO.

Admiral Drason · Post by **Admiral Drason** » 2007-03-04 11:06pm

Kara was fiddiling with her ejection seat before her viper blew. I'm betting that she got out and the Toasters rescued her.

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2007-03-04 11:06pm

I feel like I got punched in the gut...

That ending scene with Adama really drove the entire episode home for me.

Post by **LadyTevar** » 2007-03-04 11:07pm

Holy shit....

When Lee sees Kara's ship, before she hit deck... WAS THERE ANOTHER SHIP?!

Brother-Captain Gaius · Post by **Brother-Captain Gaius** » 2007-03-04 11:07pm

Vympel wrote:Episode synopsis, please.

SPOILERS (duh)

Starbuck goes nuts. Starts seeing that concentric circle pattern and herself as a child, and phantom heavy raiders while on CAP in the upper atmosphere of a planet. Various drama revolving around her. Evaluated and kept on duty after the false alarm and close call of the first encounter with her phantom raider. Flies with Apollo on second CAP, blacks out after entering lower atmosphere and its storms. Relives her last, argumentative encounter with her abusive mother before she died of cancer, with a faux-Leoben acting as a sort of "spirit guide." Visits her dying mother and parts ways with her more peacefully and regains consciousness. She claims she's no longer afraid and flies down deeper into the atmosphere of the planet (a gas giant?) and her Viper explodes, Apollo pulling out after trying to get her to return.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2007-03-04 11:09pm

I'm giving it a five, guys. An interesting, introspective episode that adds as much mystery as it resolves, and with one hell of a powerful ending.

Vehrec · Post by **Vehrec** » 2007-03-04 11:11pm

LadyTevar wrote:Holy shit....

When Lee sees Kara's ship, before she hit deck... WAS THERE ANOTHER SHIP?!

I would require more evidence, IE screencaps, but if I had to guess I would say that there were two engine plumes briefly. So my premonitions about the death may be premature.

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2007-03-04 11:13pm

LadyTevar wrote:Holy shit....

When Lee sees Kara's ship, before she hit deck... WAS THERE ANOTHER SHIP?!

Yeah, I saw that too. There was the flick of a heavy raider. Besides, *something* shot Kara's ship there.

Skylon · Post by **Skylon** » 2007-03-04 11:14pm

Vehrec wrote: Also, how long has that sailing ship been in Adama's room?

The first time I remember seeing it was back during season 2, "Home" pt 1. Adama is working on it during his talk with Dee.

ladytevar wrote:When Lee sees Kara's ship, before she hit deck... WAS THERE ANOTHER SHIP?!

I thought I saw it too. But, what I'm wondering is the hole in her canopy. That indicates to me something definitely hit her.

Further, what the hell is up with the vortex thing Kara had doodled/was in the temple? In this episode it was just a delusion that seemed to help push her over the edge.

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