George Lucas Talks Animated, Live-Action Series

Mange · Post by **Mange** » 2007-03-05 01:13pm

In this interview (video) George Lucas mentions that there'll be "over a hundred" a half hour episodes of the animated Clone Wars series and some other interesting tidbits.

Dartzap · Post by **Dartzap** » 2007-03-05 01:27pm

He has the evil laugh of a man who knows he can do whatever he wants..'Eh Eh eh!"

Ritterin Sophia · Post by **Ritterin Sophia** » 2007-03-05 05:55pm

Dartzap wrote:He has the evil laugh of a man who knows he can do whatever he wants..'Eh Eh eh!"

Nope... Georgy needs to work on his evil laugh... you would've thought working with a Hutt and Sidious would've helped...

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2007-03-05 06:16pm

I hope Scooter's taking notes on how this is not George Lucas speaking, but a clone and therefore not affiliated with official canon whatsoever. :P

LeftWingExtremist · Post by **LeftWingExtremist** » 2007-03-05 07:06pm

VT-16 wrote:I hope Scooter's taking notes on how this is not George Lucas speaking, but a clone and therefore not affiliated with official canon whatsoever.

Didn't you see Mike Wong holding a gun behind him, clearly the warsie conspiracy trying to get EU material into cannon.

Lord Poe · Post by **Lord Poe** » 2007-03-05 11:18pm

LeftWingExtremist wrote:Didn't you see Mike Wong holding a gun behind him, clearly the warsie conspiracy trying to get EU material into cannon.

That's not Mike Wong...that's Curtis Saxton flash-imprinting his fanon numbers into George Lucas' head!

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2007-03-06 12:28am

Whoops, no 7 8 or 9.

Drooling Iguana · Post by **Drooling Iguana** » 2007-03-06 01:07am

How can it be a Clone Wars series if it's set between episodes 1 and 2?

The Original Nex · Post by **The Original Nex** » 2007-03-06 01:14am

Drooling Iguana wrote:How can it be a Clone Wars series if it's set between episodes 1 and 2?

Georgie boy misspoke. It happens.

Sriad · Post by **Sriad** » 2007-03-06 02:56am

The Original Nex wrote:
Drooling Iguana wrote:How can it be a Clone Wars series if it's set between episodes 1 and 2?
Georgie boy misspoke. It happens.

"Clone Wars" might have been expanded after episode 3 to refer to the entire period of civil unrest leading up to the galactic war, from whatever resolution condemning the blockade of Naboo.

Or GL misspoke.

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2007-03-06 03:35am

Drooling Iguana wrote:How can it be a Clone Wars series if it's set between episodes 1 and 2?

I took it to mean the first and second Clone Wars cartoons.

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2007-03-06 04:14am

Why ? Why Why ?

Why clone wars instead of another more better setting ? The entire clone wars conflict in prequel triology is a massive waste of potential. There is no drama, interesting characters or feeling of epic coflict here. The entire war is about expendable stupid looking droids vs equaly expendable personalityless clones. George Lucas might as well make a TV show about the life of members of a typical squad in a RTS game during a multiplayer match. Even that would be more interesting to watch.

Ritterin Sophia · Post by **Ritterin Sophia** » 2007-03-06 04:25am

Because this way George can discretely remove that erroneous 3 million number without actually drawing too much attention by simply announcing an error on LFL's part, or so I'm hoping. In actuality, the ratings for the CW miniseries must've been deemed well enough for LFL to consider it a sustainable series, beside, worst comes to worst, we can still throw it at Dark Assmunch, Travissty, and Mandawhorians as refutation of this bullshit brushfire war. Also, I don't exactly remember him saying much about the live action series, so that's still up in the air as for the setting.

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2007-03-06 05:28am

The entire war is about expendable stupid looking droids vs equaly expendable personalityless clones.

I never saw much beyond expendable Rebels vs. expendable stormtroopers filling out the ranks of the armies in the Galactic Civil War, so there wouldn't be much difference. Seriously, most background characters are just there to fill out the background, be glad they might actually focus on them for once.

Noble Ire · Post by **Noble Ire** » 2007-03-06 06:57pm

Sarevok wrote:Why ? Why Why ?

Why clone wars instead of another more better setting ? The entire clone wars conflict in prequel triology is a massive waste of potential. There is no drama, interesting characters or feeling of epic coflict here. The entire war is about expendable stupid looking droids vs equaly expendable personalityless clones. George Lucas might as well make a TV show about the life of members of a typical squad in a RTS game during a multiplayer match. Even that would be more interesting to watch.

So, why exactly, are you opposed to an attempt to further expand the conflict? The EU has done a fine job with much of that era IMO, Traviss' later stuff exempted, and I'm eager to see what else can be done with it. I don't see how the simple setting negates the possibility of a quality program.

The Original Nex · Post by **The Original Nex** » 2007-03-06 07:15pm

I can understand the worry of using all the main characters in 100 1/2 hour episodes. The main character's are pretty much accounted for during the majority of the Clone Wars. I understand that the inclusion of main characters is necessary to capture a wide audience, but I worry that this could mess with established continuity.

Darth Fanboy · Post by **Darth Fanboy** » 2007-03-06 07:57pm

The Original Nex wrote:I can understand the worry of using all the main characters in 100 1/2 hour episodes. The main character's are pretty much accounted for during the majority of the Clone Wars. I understand that the inclusion of main characters is necessary to capture a wide audience, but I worry that this could mess with established continuity.

This show would BECOME the continuity unless I am mistaken. Which is fine by me so long as it is an improvement. I would like to see Anakin displaying some of the piloting skills we hear about so much, but rarely get to see outside of inklings from Comics and Novels. The opening of RoTS would have been better served by Anakin shredding through droid squadrons instead of messing with "buzz droids".

Ritterin Sophia · Post by **Ritterin Sophia** » 2007-03-07 07:56am

Well... we do get to see some in the Clone Wars miniseries, Anakin was in command of the space forces at the battle of Muun, as a shit load of droids start attacking him he orders the clones to fire protorps across the bow of an Acclamator, the torps destroy the group of droids trying to attack Anakin, however, even more lock onto him, so he flies through a Confederacy Space Station/Carrier, the torps destroy it.

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2007-03-07 08:27am

I have some problems with the whole "Anakin must destroy a huge amount of enemy fighters" deal. It's ok over a long, distinguished career, but not all at once. Even the wanktastic SW:CW series never showed him literally do this, so I don't want to see it any any other incarnation either.

And space battles take place in space. Which is big. Big enough to not have 100s of enemy fighter continously fly in a tight-packed formation all the time. (Didn't the Vulture droids do this in ROTS and Anakin picked some of them off as they flew past? Can't remember.)

Tychu · Post by **Tychu** » 2007-03-07 10:41am

Noble Ire wrote:
Sarevok wrote:Why ? Why Why ?

Why clone wars instead of another more better setting ? The entire clone wars conflict in prequel triology is a massive waste of potential. There is no drama, interesting characters or feeling of epic coflict here. The entire war is about expendable stupid looking droids vs equaly expendable personalityless clones. George Lucas might as well make a TV show about the life of members of a typical squad in a RTS game during a multiplayer match. Even that would be more interesting to watch.
So, why exactly, are you opposed to an attempt to further expand the conflict? The EU has done a fine job with much of that era IMO, Traviss' later stuff exempted, and I'm eager to see what else can be done with it. I don't see how the simple setting negates the possibility of a quality program.

i have to agree with Noble Ire. I really enjoyed the Clone Wars. To get the full experience of the Clone Wars which i dont think Sarvok did was that you were suppose to watch Episodes 2+3, Read the Clone Wars Comics and read the Clone Wars books. If you did that, especially read The Last Stand on(of?) Jabim than you got a really epic tale of misery, and all other war induced emotions. Setting the new series of 100+ episodes will really do wonders in my opinion

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2007-03-07 10:47am

The Last Stand on Jabiim

I've always wondered, ever since reading the opening scroll for ROTS, if the "there are heroes on both sides" remark was a reference to CW stories like this, where there's ambiguity on who's got moral superiority in the war.

Tychu · Post by **Tychu** » 2007-03-07 10:59am

VT-16 wrote:
The Last Stand on Jabiim
I've always wondered, ever since reading the opening scroll for ROTS, if the "there are heroes on both sides" remark was a reference to CW stories like this, where there's ambiguity on who's got moral superiority in the war.

Well if you take Palpatine out of the picture, you know since he infact controls both sides of the war, and just concentrate on the people. Both sides seem to have very viable reasons for doing what they are doing. It wasn't the actuall soldiers who were evil on either side it was just the commanders who were. Each side probally had that one "civilian" on some backwater planet like Jabiim that the people said, "yeah, Joe was the one who stood in the way of the enemy"

so theres the short answer in a roundabout manner

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2007-03-07 01:14pm

I never saw much beyond expendable Rebels vs. expendable stormtroopers filling out the ranks of the armies in the Galactic Civil War, so there wouldn't be much difference. Seriously, most background characters are just there to fill out the background, be glad they might actually focus on them for once.

But they were humans. They may not get as many lines as the main character but you know that outside of shooting and getting shot at they also have normal lives. You dont see that life but nor do you see 90 % of what goes on in the SW galaxy in the movies yet fans like us speculate and discuss it. Knowing that soldiers of both sides are normal people who inhabit a rich and complex universe helps add a great depth to the story. It's what makes the SW universe so lively. Think about how crazy many fans are about the lives of x-wing pilots, rebel soldiers, stormtroopers even though they are just canon fodder. These characters have becomic iconic. Do you feel the same way about the typical battledroid ?

The important thing is in a good story just like heroes canon fodder has to be memorable as well. Covenant Elites, Warhammer 40K's Space marines, Battletech's Mechwarriors are as famous as their universes themselves yet they all started out as expendable canon fodder. The lifeless battledroids and personality less clonetroopers of prequel triology dont come close to Imperial stormtroopers. How many people do you think will recognise a Trade Fed battledroid now, let alone 20 years from now ? Compare that with the number that will recognise a stormtrooper depite the fact that SW came out 30 years ago.

So, why exactly, are you opposed to an attempt to further expand the conflict? The EU has done a fine job with much of that era IMO, Traviss' later stuff exempted, and I'm eager to see what else can be done with it. I don't see how the simple setting negates the possibility of a quality program.

Because too much the damage has been done. The list problems with the clone wars backstory is so huge short of rewritting the prequels from scratch it cant be fixed.

VT-16 · Post by **VT-16** » 2007-03-07 01:36pm

Well if you take Palpatine out of the picture

And any other prominent CIS leader who we see throughout the films. There is little to no "neutral" or "good" Separatist character in the films, barring this quick remark.

It's what makes the SW universe so lively. Think about how crazy many fans are about the lives of x-wing pilots, rebel soldiers, stormtroopers even though they are just canon fodder. These characters have becomic iconic. Do you feel the same way about the typical battledroid ?

What about clonetroopers, what about stormtroopers? They have little to no connection to the non-military world (barring voluntary stormtroopers). And those civilian lives of the average Rebels get zero amount of time in the films, which was my point. Barring the few main characters, we get absolute nothing about the average Rebel. The only peek is the end celebrations in ROTJ:SE.

Ritterin Sophia · Post by **Ritterin Sophia** » 2007-03-07 04:55pm

So Sarevok, your primary argument seems to be Clone Troopers have no personality, what of ‘Spar’, something activated a ‘genetic memory’ in him to make him try to restore the Mandalorian Super Commandos and fight against his brothers for the Confederacy? How about ‘Nate’, one of Jango’s Ex’s fell in love with him? Or ‘Alpha’, the trainer of the Clone Commanders, he along with Obi-Wan was captured and tortured by Asaji Ventress? Or ‘Muzzle’, a clone who joined the Rebel Alliance? How about ‘Fordo’, commander of the Muunilinst 10, who chose to give his Chancelor’s Service Medal to his fallen brother, CT-43/002? Or ‘Tooth’, he was abandoned by the GAR and a Republic Accountant, and went against his commanding officers orders to destroy a CIS Diamond Boron Missile Factory? Excluding the ones from the Republic Commando books, that’s only half of the Alpha-class Advanced Reconnaissance Commandos.