Rebutting Darkstar's Arrow Claim

Post by **NecronLord** » 2003-01-04 05:04pm

Proof of alternate cause of death.

As we can see the little liar is once again lying.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2003-01-04 05:11pm

Just a wee bit of back history...I can see where your point is coming from, but I just wanna know the whole bit.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2003-01-04 05:17pm

Darkstar claims that the arrow he highlighted is the cause of the scout trooper's death. This clearly shows that there is an arrow in his neck.

Here is the page in the valley of ignorance (darkstar's site) which deals with the incident, in his own fradulent way. He attempts to deal with other counter claims. But this one is a massive six inch nail in his argument's coffin.

original page.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2003-01-04 05:26pm

Ah danken...and yes, yet another nail into his coffin though it already seems he's just bolstering his near inulnerable Wall of stupidity(this goes beyond just being ignorant)

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2003-01-04 05:28pm

soooo blurry

Sir Sirius · Post by **Sir Sirius** » 2003-01-04 05:43pm

Sorry, but I can't see the "other arrow", not even with LView.

Sr.mal · Post by **Sr.mal** » 2003-01-04 05:52pm

He MUST be hallucinating because I cant see a second arrow at all.

Sir Sirius · Post by **Sir Sirius** » 2003-01-04 06:01pm

Who must be hallucinating?

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-01-04 06:04pm

[mode=MIB]
Damn it must be the Magic Bullet, someone notify the Magestic and the Illuminati, of this "Darkstar".
[/mode]

jaeger115 · Post by **jaeger115** » 2003-01-05 12:02am

Can't see anything. It's obvious that scout trooper was ducking arrow fire due to reflexes, not to an actual hit. Darkstar's merely putting a red line there to make us think it's there

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2003-01-05 12:15am

No, I think that there is something there. I can't tell you for sure that it is an arrow, or where it struck, but there does appear to be a blurry line along the area that is highlighted in the above image.

Sr.mal · Post by **Sr.mal** » 2003-01-05 01:43am

Sir Sirius wrote:
Who must be hallucinating?

For clarification: Dorkstar

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2003-01-05 01:48am

closet sci-fi fan wrote:someones going to have to take a clearer picture of the scene in order to really clear up the dispute..

Laird over at SB did. He used a laserdisc rip and cleaned DS clock in the ensuing debate.

Vertigo1 · Post by **Vertigo1** » 2003-01-05 02:30am

closet sci-fi fan wrote:orginial claim:
http://www.st-v-sw.net/STSWtrooparrow.html

its difficult to derive any conclusion aside from that he has an arrow stuck in him due to the fact that its so blurry. in all honestly though it does look like its protruding from the back. i really don't see anything suggesting a second arrow or one hanging around the neck. the red line and the yellow line aren't even coming from the same angle either.

That, and the damn arrow pictures are so damned SMALL.

I hope you guys realize that this whole thread is moot since he'll just ignore it. Hell, I used his own damn pictures against him and he still ignored them.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-01-05 03:08am

I'm sorry, I can't see shit.

And it reminds me too much of a moon landing hoax picture, unfortunately.

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-01-05 04:09am

Master of Ossus needs this. PM him Necronlord- if he hasn't already seen it

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-01-05 06:47am

Vympel wrote:Master of Ossus needs this. PM him Necronlord- if he hasn't already seen it

D'oh he's already seen it. Never mind

Post by **NecronLord** » 2003-01-05 07:11am

Yes. I know it's terribly blurry, I wonder is that actually in the film or did Dorkstar add in his arrow. If anyone has a high res version, feel free to send it to me.

Warspite · Post by **Warspite** » 2003-01-05 07:52am

The image is too blurry and pixelated to see anything conclusive (but, that's Darkstar method, right?)
The dark areas can be (and probably are) darker parts of the stortrooper equipment.
The problem with analysing enclear pictures is the same as the ink blot tests, people see diferent things... Just like the famous Face of Mars. (And my opinion is a ligth/shadow phenomenum).

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-01-05 08:10am

Darth Wong has a laserdisc version, IIRC ...

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2003-01-06 12:39am

I'm sorry to bring bad news, but I checked my version of RotJ frame by frame and it seems that he's right: the scout got an arrow in the neck, or at least pretty close to it. Immediately he appeared to fall forward.

I've extracted a 2 second clip, full resolution (640 x sumthin'), takes about 200k but it requires DivX to view.

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-01-06 12:53am

Slartibartfast wrote:I'm sorry to bring bad news, but I checked my version of RotJ frame by frame and it seems that he's right: the scout got an arrow in the neck, or at least pretty close to it. Immediately he appeared to fall forward.

I've extracted a 2 second clip, full resolution (640 x sumthin'), takes about 200k but it requires DivX to view.

I've got divx. Gimme.

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-01-06 12:56am

Just as an aside- how do we know that trooper died?

I don't recall evidence that a single soldier died from arrows at any point in the entire battle.

I think the whole thing's surrounded with the 'Ewok victory' brainbug. They had an AT-ST commandeered, people. Sheesh.

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2003-01-06 02:50am

http://www.geocities.com/bengal_tigreus ... _arrow.avi

Let me know if there's a problem. BTW I cut it at the point where the scene begins and ends; there isn't a single frame of that scene either before or after.

Post by **Vympel** » 2003-01-06 05:06am

That trooper is definitely not dead.

As for the arrow, I can only see one.