Post Apacalypse Now

[The Yosemite Bear]

road warrior?, fallout?, on the beach?, logan's run?, The time machine?, what are your oppinions of the best of post apacalypsian universes?

[Patrick Degan]

road warrior?,

It's you in a world populated by biker gangs run by WWE rejects and your only hope of salvation is Mel Gibson? Fuck that.

fallout?,

The Libertarians' anarcho-paradise with radiation and 13 foot scorpions and other nasty mutants. No thanks.

on the beach?,

Everybody's dead.

logan's run?,

You get to live as one of the Beautiful People until they off you on your 30th birthday. Fuck that too.

The time machine?,

Yeah, I can slaughter the Morlocks and make myself King of the Eloi. But look what I'd have to work with afterward.

what are your oppinions of the best of post apacalypsian universes?

They're all fucked-up places I'd certainly never want to find myself in.

[The Yosemite Bear]

Mind you though very depressing I didn't mention horse clans or Vic and Blood. (the latter being like Gor meets mad max except worse) Also dmanation Alley (ok, we build a nice safe underground city, we need survivors so we send out some soldiers and some Pardoned Hells Angels out on their bikes, with a cross between a tank and an RV....

[neoolong]

Fallout isn't too bad depending where you are. Or if you were in the right Vault.

[Mobius]

Hokuto no Ken has a cool setting, but in no way, i'd want to live in this Universe. the same for Neo-Tokyo. Appleseed could be either way...
Does Blade Runner count as post-apocalyptic?

[weemadando]

What about Amtrak Wars?

Depending on where you ended up it could be alright, shit or awesome.

[Pelranius]

Would Starship Troopers count? Heinlein made it sound like that the wars preceeding the Confederation were absolutely devastating.

[K. A. Pital]

Metro 2033. Or Fallout. Oh, the romance of decay...

[Elheru Aran]

Would Starship Troopers count? Heinlein made it sound like that the wars preceeding the Confederation were absolutely devastating.

Not really. They've re-established society to a large degree, so it's only technically 'post-apocalyptic'. They're obviously capable of producing their Mobile Infantry suits and spacecraft upon Earth (IIRC), and their primary training facilities are upon Earth; they've got decent infrastructure and an industrial base there. I doubt it's as desolate as your typical post-apocalyptic world...

[Bounty]

Would Starship Troopers count? Heinlein made it sound like that the wars preceeding the Confederation were absolutely devastating.

By that reasoning you're living in a post-apocalyptic world right now, what with the fall of the Roman Empire and WWII and such. Troopers takes place in a world that's fully industrialised, safe and filled with material luxury.

It may not be a particularly interesting place, but post-WWIII Earth in ST isn't that bad if you're American. Sure, people are dressed in rags and live in shelters, but there's electricity, transportation, food and booze. It sure beats Max & co.

[RogueIce]

Does Judge Dredd count? Most of the planet is scorched earth, with only the Megacities and maybe a few other things (if we take the movie, the prisons for one) being the last bastions of civilization.

[Dennis Toy]

What is Amtrak Wars.


You should put the movies Damnation Alley and Soylent Green in there and throw in the Omega Man.

[The Grim Squeaker]

Fallout isn't too bad depending where you are. Or if you were in the right Vault.

Such as the ones that were a veritable paradise. Or the one with 4 men and 300 of the most eugenically perfect women .
Even life in some of the larger settlements or cities can be decent if violent (New Reno is a shithole, but the settlements based on old world tech or that maintained some sort of stable government could be pretty good and stable or even the new forming power groups such as The Brotherhood of Steel).
Even the Enclave is very good if you're born there, super-tech, free living and an island fortress? Yes please (Disregarding the secret agents of Doom!).

Does Judge Dredd count?

Judge Dredd is undoubtedly post apocalyptic.
The Cursed Earth is in its vast majority a shithole of horrific proportions (Think a 40k Death-planet with more mutants and less water), but life in the Mega-cities is in many places better than current life (Depending where you live, Meg-1 is about the 3d most oppressive of the cities on the planet and has a terrible unemployment rate, but life in say, OZ is just peachy)

[Big Orange]

Does Judge Dredd count? Most of the planet is scorched earth, with only the Megacities and maybe a few other things (if we take the movie, the prisons for one) being the last bastions of civilization.

The Cursed Earth seems very, very bad but inside the Megacities it's relatively pleasant for most; there is enough food (recycled for corpses and sewage) and a centralized government (authoritarian).

[Bounty]

Two post-apocalyptic worlds works worth mentioning:

- Threads, not SF per se but still a chilling look at the collapse of western civilization due to our own stupidity, with an ending that still shocks today;

- La Jetée, French artsy-fartsy weirdness that despite it's odd format is still a worthwhile look at a bleak future and it's relationship to other times.

[Big Orange]

Two post-apocalyptic worlds works worth mentioning:

- Threads, not SF per se but still a chilling look at the collapse of western civilization due to our own stupidity, with an ending that still shocks today;

Didn't they have a similar documdrama to Threas from the 1960s that they banned until the 1980s?

Another notable post apocalyptic setting is Stephen King's The Stand where 90% of humanity dies from the Captain Trips super plague. And we could also include Max Brooks' World War Z that has a similar premise, but with zombies instead of the "Blue Flu".

[Catman]

I think that the Mad max trilogy and the fairly similar Anime Hokuto no Ken are great.

[Mobius]

Hokuto no ken is the mash-up of the 70-80's culture and yes it's really great (but i'd rather put it in fantasy since most of the fight involve ki and uber kung-fu)

[Catman]

And pressure points.

[The Yosemite Bear]

i Mentioned damnation alley the book by Rodger Zealezney is so much better then the movie. First of all you got the Snake Plisskin aspect where your heroes were recruited from death row.

[Patrick Degan]

Threads, not SF per se but still a chilling look at the collapse of western civilization due to our own stupidity, with an ending that still shocks today;

Didn't they have a similar documdrama to Threas from the 1960s that they banned until the 1980s?

BBC's The War Game (1960) —considered far too realistic a portrayal of the likely consequences of a nuclear attack on Britain, so it got shelved. Threads was merely TWG with a central dramatic character and every bit as powerful as the original speculative documentary.

[Sidewinder]

Mega-Tokyo from 'Bubblegum Crisis'. 80s rock, women in hot clothing-- hardsuits aren't bad-- handguns powerful enough to shatter cement blocks, supercharged cars you can drive at 200+ mph while sticking the middle finger at environmentalists crying about emissions, your own personal robot whore/killing machine... It's all good.

Earth of 12,090 from 'Vampire Hunter D'. Most of the members of this board will do just fine. Just move into a town, work hard, pay your taxes, and remember to keep a wreathe of garlic around your neck to ward off the vampires, because everyone else has been brainwashed by the vampires to forget that garlic wards off vampires.

Does Blade Runner count as post-apocalyptic?

In the original novel-- Phillip K. Dick's 'Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?'-- yes. The reason Zhora dances with a robot snake is because most animal species on Earth became extince to radioactive fallout from WW3-- the reason humans are setting up colonies on other planets is because they don't want to share the snake's fate.

[Catman]

Now there was "fanservice" done right.

[avatarxprime]

Don't forget Futurama. From Fry's little 1000 year nap we see that the Earth has gone through at least 2 separate apocalypses to become what it is in the year 3000.

[Zor]

If it counts, Red Imperator's Humanist Inheritence universe on Toliman. Sure mankind got slagged in Sol System, but on Toliman the future looks good.

Zor