What is Neon Genesis Evangelion?

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-01-04 09:50pm

Singuler Quartet: the Nevada incident occured because the S2 Engine in the Eva 04 created a Sea or Dirac* while it was receiving it's soul.

*What the Eva 01 disappeared into while fighting Leliel.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-01-04 09:50pm

Yogi wrote:I see he missed the numerous scenes with the Angels wading through conventional military forces like it wasn't even there.

Except that said conventional military forces have "UN" painted on their
vehicles, meaning they are ineffective.....

I don't see any JSSDF on them....

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-01-04 09:52pm

Yogi wrote:Once Again, I present the opprotunity for you to educate thyself.

WTF was that?

Yogi · Post by **Yogi** » 2003-01-04 09:54pm

MKSheppard wrote:WTF was that?

That is proof of the Angel's uber-1337 conservation-of-mass-defying regenerative abilities. Biological weapons don't seem that good now, do they?

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-01-04 09:55pm

So? What's your point?

The UN essentially gave up any more counterattacks against Angels after Sachiel, after which the JSSDF took up the cause of (at the most) slowing them down while NERV deployed the Evas.

Yogi · Post by **Yogi** » 2003-01-04 09:57pm

MKSheppard wrote:Except that said conventional military forces have "UN" painted on their vehicles, meaning they are ineffective.....

So, why would missiles fired by a non-UN source magically do better?

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-01-04 09:59pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:So? What's your point?

The UN essentially gave up any more counterattacks against Angels after Sachiel, after which the JSSDF took up the cause of (at the most) slowing them down while NERV deployed the Evas.

If that had been a USSR/US attack force, after the conventional weapons
had proved ineffective, they'd have moved on to the full gamut of nasty
"special weapons".

VX, sarin, etc, and of course, your ever trusty B-61

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-01-04 09:59pm

Yogi wrote:So, why would missiles fired by a non-UN source magically do better?

Because it'd have a real warhead - preferably a few MT worth

Yogi · Post by **Yogi** » 2003-01-04 10:00pm

MKSheppard wrote:If that had been a USSR/US attack force, after the conventional weapons had proved ineffective, they'd have moved on to the full gamut of nasty "special weapons".

VX, sarin, etc, and of course, your ever trusty B-61

Does the good old N2 mine count?

Note: Planes.avi removed due to space limitations. Avalable upon request.

Singular Quartet · Post by **Singular Quartet** » 2003-01-04 10:00pm

MKSheppard wrote:
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:So? What's your point?

The UN essentially gave up any more counterattacks against Angels after Sachiel, after which the JSSDF took up the cause of (at the most) slowing them down while NERV deployed the Evas.
If that had been a USSR/US attack force, after the conventional weapons
had proved ineffective, they'd have moved on to the full gamut of nasty
"special weapons".

VX, sarin, etc, and of course, your ever trusty B-61

They aren't intrested in moving survivors into tokyo-4, or back into tokyo-2., but you keep missing this point

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-01-04 10:05pm

Yogi wrote: Does the good old N2 mine count?

Yeah right. I can achieve the same effect with a good old FAE dropped out
of a C-130. Blast capable of knocking people 4 miles away on their asses.

The Black Jesus · Post by **The Black Jesus** » 2003-01-04 10:07pm

MKSheppard wrote:
Yogi wrote: Does the good old N2 mine count?
Yeah right. I can achieve the same effect with a good old FAE dropped out
of a C-130. Blast capable of knocking people 4 miles away on their asses.

my FAE can beat your FAE any day of the week

Yogi · Post by **Yogi** » 2003-01-04 10:07pm

BTW, it is a fai question to ask "What effect does an N2 mine have on an angel?"

The answer, not much. Note the N2 mine going THROUGH the AT field.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-01-04 10:07pm

Shep: Bio/Chem weapons won't effect Angels because they're not organic.

Despite the fact that they only have the forms they do simply because they chose them.

It's totally irrelevent to attack the Angels based on their totally arbitrary bodies.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-01-04 10:10pm

Yogi wrote: The answer, not much. Note the N2 mine going THROUGH the AT field.

FAEs are the largest conventional bombs in existence, but they have
less than one thousandth the power of the Hiroshima nuclear bomb.

Or your typical nuke warhead. If that much power from a FAE scratched the
angel's surface, imagine what something 1,000 times more powerful would do....

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-01-04 10:10pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Shep: Bio/Chem weapons won't effect Angels because they're not organic.

Then how can EVAs be grown then?

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-01-04 10:12pm

Yogi: what are these clips of? I don't have the time to download them.

I'm assuming the last one is Zeruel.

Shep: they're not grown because they're biological. They're grown because they're based off of the Angels. And that's the only way Eva's can be made.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-01-04 10:14pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Yogi: what are these clips of? I don't have the time to download them.

Pirated video from NGE....gotta love Broadband

Yogi · Post by **Yogi** » 2003-01-04 10:14pm

MKSheppard wrote:If that much power from a FAE scratched the angel's surface, imagine what something 1,000 times more powerful would do....

Actually, it really didn't.

Perhaps this is a bit sudden, but how do you propose to fight the angel that turns into a Sea of Driac, the angel that is a massive orbital bomb, or the angel that drives men mad?

Singular Quartet · Post by **Singular Quartet** » 2003-01-04 10:18pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Shep: Bio/Chem weapons won't effect Angels because they're not organic.

Despite the fact that they only have the forms they do simply because they chose them.

It's totally irrelevent to attack the Angels based on their totally arbitrary bodies.

I thought they were just weirdly organic. I mean, Eva's bleed[1], and Angel's can be eatten[2], but that's not recommended...

[1]as shown when 01 goes berserk in the first 2 episodes, and again when Dummy Plugged 01 ripps apart 03.

[2]The third time 01 goes wacky.

Yogi · Post by **Yogi** » 2003-01-04 10:19pm

Yep, Broadband is Great.

The clips are
1) The Third Angel attacking Tokyo-3 in episode 1
2) A shot of the tank battalion mensioned in the clip (the one at the beginning of the episode)
3) A scene of Lilith regenerating after the Lance of Longinitus was pulled out
4) A shot of the N2 explosion in episode 1
5) A shot of the N2 mine going off against Zeruel

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-01-04 10:20pm

Zeruel wasn't eaten for digestion, it was consumed to absorb the S2 organ.

Yes, the Angels are alive and they have souls, but they're not organic.

Majin Gojira · Post by **Majin Gojira** » 2003-01-04 10:21pm

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Singular Quartet · Post by **Singular Quartet** » 2003-01-04 10:21pm

Yogi wrote:
MKSheppard wrote:If that much power from a FAE scratched the angel's surface, imagine what something 1,000 times more powerful would do....
Actually, it really didn't.

Perhaps this is a bit sudden, but how do you propose to fight the angel that turns into a Sea of Driac, the angel that is a massive orbital bomb, or the angel that drives men mad?

Might be a good idea to explain what the Sea of Dirac is, since I only sorta remember. IIRc, its a black circular pool that's a form of spacial warp. STuff onto falls in, but its fairly hard to get back out.

Majin Gojira · Post by **Majin Gojira** » 2003-01-04 10:22pm

I believe they were along the lines of Solidifies thoughts or something like that. (Onle seen the entire series once)