Things I never noticed about Robocop

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And that line also made it into the hilariously crappy game Smash TV.
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Yeah, Robocop is famous for featuring spoof TV shows that are satirical and sleazy in content, mocking late 1980s America. Does anyone else think Total Recall is satirical in tone? And I thought Starship Troopers was ruined slightly, when it ended with the bombastic FOX News like montage showing the Mobile Infantry getting new ships and weapons.
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I think Total Recall was somewhat satirical, yes. But I don't think the end to SST was ruined, because, really, the final news net segment just showed more jingoistic "WE WILL WIN!" bullshit, that is reminiscent of the mission accomplished PR stunt Bush did in 2003.
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I got to get me the DVD somethimes. Truly one of the best sci-fi movies ever created.

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Admiral Valdemar wrote:I think Total Recall was somewhat satirical, yes.


Total Recall seemed to be a relatively straight action adventure, but it had it's darkly comical moments like deformed Martian hookers and that innocent commuter on the escelator getting shredded apart by enemy fire then used a human shield by Quaid.
But I don't think the end to SST was ruined, because, really, the final news net segment just showed more jingoistic "WE WILL WIN!" bullshit, that is reminiscent of the mission accomplished PR stunt Bush did in 2003.
The civil war raging Mexico that was always in Robocop's "Media Breaks" was disconcertingly similar to real life news reports from Iraq and Afghanistan, except it was communists instead of Muslims (I can recall complaints levelled at ITV or Channel Five for showing Robocop so soon after 9/11).
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Yeah, I loved the Robocop movies(except for the third one and the tv series). Robocop I and II are some of my favorite scifi movies of all time and Robocop vs Robocop II was one of my favorite fight scenes in film.

As for famous lines, I loved the irony of a cyborg using the phrase "We're only human." when Lewis expressed frustration that "the Old Man" would probably escape legal action at the end of Robocop II.
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Also Ronny Cox, Peter Weller and Kurtwood Smith had notable guest roles in the Star Trek franchise - Cox turned up as a crooked Federation admiral in TNG, Kurtwood Smith turned up in Trek at least twice (the first time as the wizened Federation president from TUC, the second as the obsessed timeship captain from VOY) and Petter Weller was a human supremacist in the more recent ENT two parter, "Terra Prime".
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Big Orange wrote:Also Ronny Cox, Peter Weller and Kurtwood Smith had notable guest roles in the Star Trek franchise - Cox turned up as a crooked Federation admiral in TNG, Kurtwood Smith turned up in Trek at least twice (the first time as the wizened Federation president from TUC, the second as the obsessed timeship captain from VOY) and Petter Weller was a human supremacist in the more recent ENT two parter, "Terra Prime".
Cox wasn't a crooked Admiral, he was that tough as nails Captain Jellico.
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Kurtwoos Smith was also Thrax, Odo's predecessor as DS9's Security Chief.

And Jellico wasn't an Admiral, or corrupt. He was Captain Edward Jellico. One of the few times he's been in Sci-Fi as a non-corrupt good guy.
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Was I the only one annoyed that the Starship Troopers movie was the polar opposite of the novel? Both were just vessels for a political opinion, but at least the novel was entertaining.
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Tanasinn wrote:Was I the only one annoyed that the Starship Troopers movie was the polar opposite of the novel? Both were just vessels for a political opinion, but at least the novel was entertaining.
Yeah, it pissed the hell out of me.
As did the insane number of changes to the storyline, setting and characters...it was essentially a hijacking of the title solely for brand-recognition purposes.
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Molyneux wrote:
Tanasinn wrote:Was I the only one annoyed that the Starship Troopers movie was the polar opposite of the novel? Both were just vessels for a political opinion, but at least the novel was entertaining.
Yeah, it pissed the hell out of me.
As did the insane number of changes to the storyline, setting and characters...it was essentially a hijacking of the title solely for brand-recognition purposes.
I thought of it as a comedy making fun of WW2 era films.
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Molyneux wrote:As did the insane number of changes to the storyline, setting and characters...it was essentially a hijacking of the title solely for brand-recognition purposes.
It was a hijacking of the name simply for the recognition. The production team has openly admitted that it was originally unconnected to SST and only got some names and extremely loose connections pasted on late in the game.
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Yeah, I thought it was an amusing parody of jingoistic war films. I enjoyed it as such, but I've never read the book.
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Total Recall seemed to be a relatively straight action adventure, but it had it's darkly comical moments like deformed Martian hookers and that innocent commuter on the escelator getting shredded apart by enemy fire then used a human shield by Quaid.
There's also the guy he blithely murdered in the hotel room (the guy from the Recall advertisement, who offers him the pill) for the crime of trying to deceive him and being caught out (ie. the sweat). :P

Of course, the ultimate comical moments in that movie were:

"BENNNY!!!! SCREEEWWWWWWWWWWWW YOUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!" (as he kills him with an industrial drill)

or the immortal

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Vympel wrote:
Total Recall seemed to be a relatively straight action adventure, but it had it's darkly comical moments like deformed Martian hookers and that innocent commuter on the escelator getting shredded apart by enemy fire then used a human shield by Quaid.
There's also the guy he blithely murdered in the hotel room (the guy from the Recall advertisement, who offers him the pill) for the crime of trying to deceive him and being caught out (ie. the sweat). :P

Of course, the ultimate comical moments in that movie were:

"BENNNY!!!! SCREEEWWWWWWWWWWWW YOUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!" (as he kills him with an industrial drill)

or the immortal

"SEE YOU AT THE PARTY, RICHTER!"
I liked how you never could be quite sure, after the part with the pill-doctor, whether it really was all a hallucination or not...the rest of the movie completely follows the guy's prediction.
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I always assumed the whole thing was a hallucination, and at the end the fade to white means he's been lobotomized.

Didn't Verhoeven sorta hint at this is his commentary?
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Stormbringer wrote:
Molyneux wrote:As did the insane number of changes to the storyline, setting and characters...it was essentially a hijacking of the title solely for brand-recognition purposes.
It was a hijacking of the name simply for the recognition. The production team has openly admitted that it was originally unconnected to SST and only got some names and extremely loose connections pasted on late in the game.
It revolts me when filmmakers do that.
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Most gratifying moment ever last night.

I sat down with my girlfriend to show her Robocop.

"Dick, you're fired!"
Directive 4 scrambles off the screen.
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She giggled with joy.

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Vympel wrote:
There's also the guy he blithely murdered in the hotel room (the guy from the Recall advertisement, who offers him the pill) for the crime of trying to deceive him and being caught out (ie. the sweat). :P

Of course, the ultimate comical moments in that movie were:

"BENNNY!!!! SCREEEWWWWWWWWWWWW YOUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!" (as he kills him with an industrial drill)

or the immortal

"SEE YOU AT THE PARTY, RICHTER!"
Heh, yeah. Verhoeven got Ironside to lose his legs in SST instead of his arms later on.
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Does anyone like the order in which they programmed Robocop's directives?

1.) "Serve the public trust"
2.) "Protect the innocent"
3.) "Uphold the law"
4.) "Classified"
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MKSheppard wrote: 4.) "Classified"
What's sinister about that "directive" is that it bounds Robocop to Omni Consumer Products at the expense of every other directive...
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You expect OCP to pump millions into a toy that would turn against them or otherwise ruin their endeavours for a better world (for OCP)?

They got their priorities correct for an evil megacorp. One does not like being mistreated by one's products. RoboCop 2's results, for example. Going around, trying to crush RoboCop and blowing away cops and then an ambulance with a minigun.

"This could look bad for OCP."

Single best line of the sequel.
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I never understood why they didn't put some kind of Directive 4 in RoboCain.
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Tanasinn wrote:Was I the only one annoyed that the Starship Troopers movie was the polar opposite of the novel? Both were just vessels for a political opinion, but at least the novel was entertaining.
I at least enjoyed the film much more than the novel (which pissed me off a fair bit).
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