[Discussion] Lonestar

Post by **LadyTevar** » 2007-04-01 12:41am

I believe I made a threat in an earlier post, regarding dismissing the Mess if this was an April Fools.

I stand by that threat.

Chris OFarrell · Post by **Chris OFarrell** » 2007-04-01 12:44am

Is this whole....thing....an outgrowth of the incident with Ender? Because if it is....thats cheating, your not allowed to set up stuff that far in advance of Apr 1! The whole point is trying to catch someone on that DAY without warning God damnit!

Someone start up a senate thread to temp ban these people for breaking the April Fools day rules!

EDIT

Though I would like to public say

HA! I FUCKING CALLED IT BACK IN THE FIRST THREAD, FIRST POST OF MINE IN IT! SUCK IT BITCHES!

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2007-04-01 12:49am

Chris OFarrell wrote:Is this whole....thing....an outgrowth of the incident with Ender? Because if it is....thats cheating, your not allowed to set up stuff that far in advance of Apr 1! The whole point is trying to catch someone on that DAY without warning God damnit!

Someone start up a senate thread to temp ban these people for breaking the April Fools day rules!

I'm afraid it's far more serious than anything the Senate could react in time for. No. This has been a... noble attempt, but the time for democracy has passed.

I am hereby assuming emergency powers to deal with the growing threat of the Mess. The Senate is, until further notice, dissolved. Power will be directly handed to the forum mods.

Fear will keep the posters in line. Fear of this banstick.

Chris OFarrell · Post by **Chris OFarrell** » 2007-04-01 12:52am

SirNitram wrote:
Chris OFarrell wrote:Is this whole....thing....an outgrowth of the incident with Ender? Because if it is....thats cheating, your not allowed to set up stuff that far in advance of Apr 1! The whole point is trying to catch someone on that DAY without warning God damnit!

Someone start up a senate thread to temp ban these people for breaking the April Fools day rules!
I'm afraid it's far more serious than anything the Senate could react in time for. No. This has been a... noble attempt, but the time for democracy has passed.

I am hereby assuming emergency powers to deal with the growing threat of the Mess. The Senate is, until further notice, dissolved. Power will be directly handed to the forum mods.

Fear will keep the posters in line. Fear of this banstick.

And what of the HABers? If the tread heads have obtained a complete technical readout of this banstick, it is possible -however unlikely- that they find a weakness....and exploit it....or just nuke the hell out of it.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2007-04-01 12:53am

SirNitram wrote:I'm afraid it's far more serious than anything the Senate could react in time for. No. This has been a... noble attempt, but the time for democracy has passed.

I am hereby assuming emergency powers to deal with the growing threat of the Mess. The Senate is, until further notice, dissolved. Power will be directly handed to the forum mods.

If we're suspending the Senate, can I get my old position back?

Post by **LadyTevar** » 2007-04-01 12:54am

I've been PMed by 2 and IMed by 3 who believe the Mess should be punished for this trick.

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2007-04-01 01:15am

LadyTevar wrote:I've been PMed by 2 and IMed by 3 who believe the Mess should be punished for this trick.

For?

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2007-04-01 01:25am

Knife wrote:
LadyTevar wrote:I've been PMed by 2 and IMed by 3 who believe the Mess should be punished for this trick.
For?

Yes which rules did we break.

Wait a tick, if your getting emails saying we should be punished, why all we need to do is simply have the Mess PM you saying we should not be punished for the trick.

See? Democracy in action!

Post by **Beowulf** » 2007-04-01 01:31am

This action was taken with the full knowledge and consent of the board owner. Anyone who can't take it can kindly take a flying fuck.

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2007-04-01 01:34am

Beowulf wrote:This action was taken with the full knowledge and consent of the board owner. Anyone who can't take it can kindly take a flying fuck.

Times two.

Consider too, Einie is taking it very well and having a laugh, who was flaming left and right with APIT rail guns in the appropriate threads.

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2007-04-01 01:41am

Knife wrote:
Beowulf wrote:This action was taken with the full knowledge and consent of the board owner. Anyone who can't take it can kindly take a flying fuck.
Times two.

Consider too, Einie is taking it very well and having a laugh, who was flaming left and right with APIT rail guns in the appropriate threads.

Aye if the person who yesterday wanted to neuter Lonestar with a rusty spoon things it's a great joke, everyone else should.

Aaaannnd LadyTevar, check your inbox.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2007-04-01 01:41am

Chris OFarrell wrote:
And what of the HABers? If the tread heads have obtained a complete technical readout of this banstick, it is possible -however unlikely- that they find a weakness....and exploit it....or just nuke the hell out of it.

HAB has sufficient megatonnage to create a weakness; any material not using HAB special type elements will be weakened by heavy neutron bombardment.

Post by **Surlethe** » 2007-04-01 01:43am

Jesus Christ, that was amazing, you guys. Two weeks in advance is pretty much cheating, but ... wow.

I fucking hate you all. Now have a great day.

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2007-04-01 01:48am

Surlethe wrote:Jesus Christ, that was amazing, you guys. Two weeks in advance is pretty much cheating, but ... wow.

I fucking hate you all. Now have a great day.

Meh, side effect of having a large population of people who are trained to act and work together in planning and execution.

Be that as it may, I take my hat off to Lonestar and Burgie. Coyote and Wilkens played their part well too, and now everyone hates Kami Sith. Poor bastard.

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » 2007-04-01 02:00am

...Cunts

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2007-04-01 02:30am

Ah, a repeat.

And interestingly enough, no apologies needed, but at least next time, don't spam a week ahead in four to five topics and throw shit(Which RogueIce and Coyote) even in forums only mods can see.

One thing to have a private joke, another to have people think admins should go in and delouse a private forum.

Post by **Simplicius** » 2007-04-01 03:14am

Had people actually forgotten the Rob Wilson prank? I remembered it, and that was a year before I even joined the board.

I was taken in during the first Senate thread, but that fact that the matter suddenly blew the fuck up right before 1 April was a little too convenient. Well planned and executed just the same, you guys.

Post by **Surlethe** » 2007-04-01 08:08am

Simplicius wrote:I was taken in during the first Senate thread, but that fact that the matter suddenly blew the fuck up right before 1 April was a little too convenient. Well planned and executed just the same, you guys.

The first Senate thread was simply too far in advance to be an April Fool's joke. Once that was set, there was no reason to think it was an AFD joke, even blowing up close to April 1, since the issue had arisen before.

Knife wrote:Meh, side effect of having a large population of people who are trained to act and work together in planning and execution.

Be that as it may, I take my hat off to Lonestar and Burgie. Coyote and Wilkens played their part well too, and now everyone hates Kami Sith. Poor bastard.

Jesus, you guys rock. Were the gay threads themselves actually planned, or were they just nice opportunities?

Post by **Coyote** » 2007-04-01 08:44am

It was thrown together hastily-- we'd been contemplating something for AFD, but felt that a lead-in was necessary to pull sufficient wool over everyone's eyes. We put it together, I quickly contacted DW for clearance, and we got busy that first day.

The thing was, the General Pace thread was a legit thread from the start, it was just an opportunity that was there at the time. We took the karma and jumped on it, keeping things fuelled up here & there as needed.

It took a lot of ongoing planning and coordination in the Mess, we had 2-3 threads just of ongoing planning during the whole thing, plotting when to strike, when to drop a little article or make a snide comment, when to go to ground and act all ashamed, etc.

I'd like to thank my troops for their outstanding performance in this!

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2007-04-01 09:13am

Jesus, you guys rock. Were the gay threads themselves actually planned, or were they just nice opportunities?

Yeah, mostly planned, though the first casualty of any operation is the plan. We were thinking of fake threads in the general forums but great oppertunities just kept coming up naturally. Fucking 'How gay is 300' and the now famous 'General shithead' thread. Vent thread is always perfect to toss some off comments in too.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2007-04-01 10:24am

I am so jaded. it's disgusting how I no longer have any emotion about this kind of shit being pulled on and on. yes, I saw the whole thing comming a mile and a half away (~2.5km for those outside the united states) I just shake my head, and feel nothing. no outrage, no groans, nothing

Post by **LadyTevar** » 2007-04-01 01:06pm

Mr Bean wrote:Aye if the person who yesterday wanted to neuter Lonestar with a rusty spoon things it's a great joke, everyone else should.

Aaaannnd LadyTevar, check your inbox.

Cute Bean. Really cute.

No, none of you are getting a reward for this shit, especially when the best you idjits can do is send me cookie-cutter "please don't hurt us" PMs to spam my Inbox.

A AFD Prank should be FUNNY, GodsDamnit! It should not be funny just to those who are playing the prank, it should be something that everyone can look back on and giggle at how stupid they look. THIS PRANK WAS NOT FUNNY.
This prank had nearly everyone on the board seriously thinking that something had gone wrong, that soneone had lost their temper, lost their head, and possibly ruined their life and career. I especially took it hard for one damn reason: I SAW THIS SHIT HAPPEN IRL, in the SCA.

So, no, it wasnt' fuckin' funny to me, because I saw a group of friends torn apart over this shit, and damn near saw the whole Barony fall apart over it. There are people that STILL, AFTER 10 YEARS, won't speak to others involved because of it. So, yes, I'm pissed that you nutballs would pull this kinda shit, scare nearly the whole board, and drag up a nasty case of deja-vu for me.

Be glad Wong's on your side... otherwise I might not be the only one suggesting The Mess be disbanded.

Post by **LadyTevar** » 2007-04-01 02:14pm

From my Inbox:

From: Zathras
To: LadyTevar
Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 12:24 pm
Subject: Re: the Mess, etc.

Although Mike and other mods were in on this, I seem to remember (but haven't found the thread; it's somewhere in Spamworld) that after the last time this happened, Mike decreed that:
a) Mods were not to use their positions to organize/support pranks, and
b) Pranks were not to be started prior to April 1st

It was the fact that things started way early, made it to the Senate, and was backed by Mods led everyone to believe that this nonsense was real. I'm just a peon, but I'd really appreciate it if the staff could pick a set of guidelines and stick to them.

He's right. Not that it may do much good since Wong allowed this to happen, but he's right.

RedImperator · Post by **RedImperator** » 2007-04-01 02:32pm

I thought this was hilarious, myself. I guess I shouldn't be surprised a military usergroup had the discipline to pull this off, but I can't do anything but admire how well coordinated it was for how long.

InnerBrat · Post by **InnerBrat** » 2007-04-01 05:40pm

Seconding Tevar, here.

I avoid SDnet (among other online communities) on AFD for a reason, because I just find it silly. However, when I discovered this stuff going down in the Senate, and I checked the thread and saw the dates, I realised this was serious.

Jokes should be FUNNY. We were informed (NOT today) that things that had happened in a very private usergroup had been dredged into Real Life. This, IMO is about on par with the grandmother dying which caused so much shit a couple of years ago.

Tevar's already covered the fact that it affected the entire board for weeks, and that it contravened previous guidelines laid down for today. So what more can I do but explain why I personally don't consider it funny.

As a member of two equally private usergroups, I consider it pretty damn important that what goes on in private usergroups stays private, and was worrying about how it'd be handled if those two hit similar problems. OK, I'm uptight, but the Mess, like SOS:NBA and GALE, was set up in order to be private. breaching that privacy shouldn't be taken lightly.

Neither do I particularly think homophobia funny. The shite that I was thinking about people I'd known and respected for a while had me beginning to regret coming back to the board. I had things I wanted to say about Pace, but it degenerated into flamewar and was HOS worthy because of people trying to work up a persona to pull off a prank.

Sorry, not funny, and I'm glad now I've had no energy to get involved in anything this past week.