Things I never noticed about Robocop

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ShadowSonic wrote:I never understood why they didn't put some kind of Directive 4 in RoboCain.
Perhaps OCP were cutting corners, but they had some safety oversight anyway (which RoboKain crushed) and they didn't mind installing the brain of a drug addled psychopath (or the equally bonkers psychologist didn't).
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The Original Miller version of who they made into RoboCop 2 made SO much more sense than the movie, but I still love it.
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ShadowSonic wrote:I never understood why they didn't put some kind of Directive 4 in RoboCain.
The psychopathiatrist thought she could use Kain's drug addiction to control him, instead.
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Big Orange wrote:And I thought Starship Troopers was ruined slightly, when it ended with the bombastic FOX News like montage showing the Mobile Infantry getting new ships and weapons.
I think that montage was intended to just give the audience some closure on the whole war outcome.
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You know, it took me a while to realize this, but I think Cain's addiction to Nuke was supposed to be his "link to his prior life", a dark twisted mirror of what kept Murphy going, his connection to his prior life.
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ShadowSonic wrote:The Original Miller version of who they made into RoboCop 2 made SO much more sense than the movie, but I still love it.
What was the Original Miller version?

(and the bit about Nuke -> Cain = Duty -> Murphy is actually pretty good. I hadn't realised that either.)
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Molyneux wrote:
ShadowSonic wrote:The Original Miller version of who they made into RoboCop 2 made SO much more sense than the movie, but I still love it.
What was the Original Miller version?

(and the bit about Nuke -> Cain = Duty -> Murphy is actually pretty good. I hadn't realised that either.)
Frank Miller of Sin City/300 fame wrote a script for Robocop 2 (or perhaps it was a comic, not sure); it was considered by the studio but eventually tossed in favor of another writer's rendition.
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In Miller's version, to keep the city from being totally messed up during the police strike OCP hires several mercenaries to maintain order, but they turn out to be a bunch of psychos who get into firefights with the remaining non-strik cops as well as killing criminals.

One of them, a real nut named Kong, is killed in action so OCP decides to use him as the "base" for Robocop 2, the head of the project is this pop psychologist who hates Robocop. They never explain why she hates Robocop, in fact she hates him SO much that after Kong's initial battle with Robocop and then him returning for repairs and refit, she transfers her personality into Robocop 2, leading to the inevitable "going berserk" scene. Robo then tracks her down (or she goes after him) and he destroys her.

Sergeant Reed and the Old Man (who wasn't such a bad guy in Miller's version, I think) both get killed in this version. There isn't much in the way of humor, rather dark all throughout.

Oh yeah, the psychologist dresses like a hooker. Don't know if this was specific by Miller, or the artist realized this was a Frank Miller story and made her look that way.
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I'd not mind seeing that made, but for the first sequel's flaws and lack of original people working on it, it was still entertaining. Just not RoboCop level quality.

We do not talk of three, because that is the movie that sent Miller into his sojourn from Hollywood until Sin City.
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The only stuff in three that Miller had anything to do with was the whole thing of OCP sending in this team of Mercenaries when the Cops disobey them.

So they chopped up his screenplay for Robocop 2 and used elements of it in Robocop 3 as well.
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ShadowSonic wrote:The Original Miller version of who they made into RoboCop 2 made SO much more sense than the movie, but I still love it.
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I said it in the prior post, it was one of the mercenaries they had hired to protect the Delta City construction teams during the police strike, a particularly vicious fellow named "Kong".
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Well I just showed Robocop directors cut to my GF who has never seen it before. I didn't think she'd like it but she thought it was pretty good actually.
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Why badmouthing Robocop 3, I thought it was better then RC 2.

Not as good as the first but still enjoyable.
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His Divine Shadow wrote:Well I just showed Robocop directors cut to my GF who has never seen it before. I didn't think she'd like it but she thought it was pretty good actually.
Even though there's only about a minute or two more footage in the DC than the theatrical release, it makes a huge difference.

A great example of how cutting even a second or two out of a scene can change the entire tone.
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Hey, His Divine Shadow, I like that new Omni Consumer Products themed sig. And did any else think that OCP's global skyscraper headquarters was OTT, with it's gigantic internal spaces, glass elevators and sky bridges? That was an excellent example of decent matt painting.
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