Strange new creationist ideas

Jericho Kross · Post by **Jericho Kross** » 2007-04-04 11:53pm

Has any one heard about the new creationist museum with DINOSAURS!!

I am not kidding. I saw it on CNN and I thought it was outragious! What does everyone else think of this?

Post by **Surlethe** » 2007-04-05 12:01am

Yes, I have. It's down in Kentucky, run by AiG. I trust that I won't have to explain who AiG are, and why they're wrong. Interestingly, when I visit Evansville this summer, I might have a chance to visit it.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2007-04-05 12:05am

This is not new. Creationists have been selling their silly ideas of "Flintstones"-style ancient man/dinosaur coexistence for a long time now.

Jericho Kross · Post by **Jericho Kross** » 2007-04-05 12:07am

Surlethe wrote:Yes, I have. It's down in Kentucky, run by AiG. I trust that I won't have to explain who AiG are, and why they're wrong. Interestingly, when I visit Evansville this summer, I might have a chance to visit it.

You will have to tell us what it was like.

Jericho Kross · Post by **Jericho Kross** » 2007-04-05 12:09am

Darth Wong wrote:This is not new. Creationists have been selling their silly ideas of "Flintstones"-style ancient man/dinosaur coexistence for a long time now.

Now there are talking about unmineralized dinosaur bones.
What does that even mean anyways?

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2007-04-05 12:13am

Jericho Kross wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:This is not new. Creationists have been selling their silly ideas of "Flintstones"-style ancient man/dinosaur coexistence for a long time now.
Now there are talking about unmineralized dinosaur bones.
What does that even mean anyways?

It means that they claim to have found dinosaur bones which don't exhibit the signs of aging that we would expect for an ancient planet. These claims will, of course, be investigated only by fellow creationists, since they don't trust mainstream scientists with the precious "evidence". Creationists are as predictable as politicians.

Jericho Kross · Post by **Jericho Kross** » 2007-04-05 12:24am

Darth Wong wrote:
Jericho Kross wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:This is not new. Creationists have been selling their silly ideas of "Flintstones"-style ancient man/dinosaur coexistence for a long time now.
Now there are talking about unmineralized dinosaur bones.
What does that even mean anyways?
It means that they claim to have found dinosaur bones which don't exhibit the signs of aging that we would expect for an ancient planet. These claims will, of course, be investigated only by fellow creationists, since they don't trust mainstream scientists with the precious "evidence". Creationists are as predictable as politicians.

Creationist keep trying don't they? they will do anything to prove there point won't they? Sad very sad.

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2007-04-05 01:15am

Hell, back when I was still going to church, they gave us a 30 page pamphlet on why evolution was wrong. First page, 2nd law of thermodynamics.

These days I wonder how much 200 copies of 30 pages cost.

dworkin · Post by **dworkin** » 2007-04-05 05:05pm

The creos have been "reclaiming the dinosaurs" for ages. For them it's a vital battleground since whenever Joe Sixpack thinks of ancient life he thinks dinosaurs.

Usually it's along the lines of

"Didn't you know that dinosaurs are mentioned in the Bible?"
Followed by a quick overview and misquoting of the Book of Job's mention of Leviathan and Behemoth.

Of course it's a dumb argument even for creationists and they often end up looking stupid. Dinosaurs are so well known because of the vast numbers of different dinosaurs discovered. Even Joe knows that there were entire ecosystems of dinosaurs living together and that the fundie line sounds, well dumb.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2007-04-05 05:16pm

They quote book of Job?

That's fun. 'So, if I can do a little basic High School Physics, God will admit to me my own right arm is my salvation? Cool. Always wanted to absolve myself of sins.'

The look they get... Ooo.

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2007-04-05 05:34pm

Always looking for angles, aren't you Nit?

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2007-04-05 05:39pm

I wonder if they will buy dead lizards from me at the price of real ancient fossils. Some of their species also existed 6000 years ago when man and dinosaur lived in harmony on Earth.

Darth Raptor · Post by **Darth Raptor** » 2007-04-05 05:55pm

Really, Creationists would be better off pretending that dinosaur fossils are fabrications placed by Satan to deceive the faithful. According to their own hilariously stupid theory, dinosaurs only lived from Day 5 to shortly after the Great Flood (they all suffocated after disembArking).

Furthermore, the existence of the carnivorous dinosaurs throws a wrench in their assertion that all animals were herbivorous prior to the Fall. Of course, there are obligate carnivores today, but in some types of dinosaur literally everything about their anatomy is geared toward the violent evisceration of other animals. Tyrannosaurus does not make sense as an herbivore. Of course, niether do sharks, crocodiles, eagles or spiders. Wow, I guess Creationism is just fucking stupid, huh? Apparently, the Fall of Man caused massive alterations to the anatomy and physiology of countless species of plants and animals. I could write a better Creation myth drunk.

dworkin · Post by **dworkin** » 2007-04-05 10:34pm

SirNitram wrote:'So, if I can do a little basic High School Physics, God will admit to me my own right arm is my salvation? Cool. Always wanted to absolve myself of sins.'

This is my confused look. Huh?

Post by **Simplicius** » 2007-04-06 11:39am

Sarevok wrote:I wonder if they will buy dead lizards from me at the price of real ancient fossils. Some of their species also existed 6000 years ago when man and dinosaur lived in harmony on Earth. 8)

Why would they pay you for dead lizards, when they can get real dinosaurs all by themselves?

I shit you not. Step 1: Get money. Step 2: Lead expedition to Africa. Step 3: Catch live pterosaur. Step 4: Disprove evolution! It's that simple!

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2007-04-06 11:46am

Simplicius wrote:Why would they pay you for dead lizards, when they can get real dinosaurs all by themselves?

I shit you not. Step 1: Get money. Step 2: Lead expedition to Africa. Step 3: Catch live pterosaur. Step 4: Disprove evolution! It's that simple!

Well, we always knew they were highly delusional. They honestly think that finding a living specimen of a (supposedly in their minds) extinct species will disprove evolution? Besides, the Bible never mentions pterosaurs so it won't accomplish dick.

Darth Raptor · Post by **Darth Raptor** » 2007-04-06 06:39pm

If anything, pterosaurs disprove the Bible. What, were they created from 11:30 PM on Day 5 until 12:30 AM on Day 6? Along with bats?

Sam Or I · Post by **Sam Or I** » 2007-04-06 07:09pm

From that website, I am speechless.

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Darth Raptor · Post by **Darth Raptor** » 2007-04-06 07:12pm

I still have a poster my parents gave me that shows all of the zoo animals filing into the Ark- along with two brachiosaurs. AS IF THEY WOULD EVEN FIT.

Yabba-dabba-DUMB.

Post by **Kuja** » 2007-04-06 08:44pm

Simplicius wrote:Why would they pay you for dead lizards, when they can get real dinosaurs all by themselves?

I shit you not. Step 1: Get money. Step 2: Lead expedition to Africa. Step 3: Catch live pterosaur. Step 4: Disprove evolution! It's that simple!

Velociraptors: Today terrorize the goat herders of Puerto Rico and are rumored to guard the remains of the Ark. They have become vicious since the Fall as the result of the effects of genetic entropy, making them too dangerous for the sort of interactive public experience we have in mind.

I'd usually expect this kind of stuff from the opening backstory of a D&D game....

AidanMcfay · Post by **AidanMcfay** » 2007-04-06 09:33pm

Kuja wrote:
Simplicius wrote:Why would they pay you for dead lizards, when they can get real dinosaurs all by themselves?

I shit you not. Step 1: Get money. Step 2: Lead expedition to Africa. Step 3: Catch live pterosaur. Step 4: Disprove evolution! It's that simple!

Velociraptors: Today terrorize the goat herders of Puerto Rico and are rumored to guard the remains of the Ark. They have become vicious since the Fall as the result of the effects of genetic entropy, making them too dangerous for the sort of interactive public experience we have in mind.

I'd usually expect this kind of stuff from the opening backstory of a D&D game....

I agree, is this site a parody? On the anti-occult page they talk about fighting Druids over cats....

Enforcer Talen · Post by **Enforcer Talen** » 2007-04-06 11:28pm

I dunno if its a parody, but its banners are great.

http://freehovind.com/index Yes! Today, you too can be part of the freeing of world renowned Christian Scientist, unjustly imprisoned by Secularists. Creation Science isnt a crime!

Darth Raptor · Post by **Darth Raptor** » 2007-04-07 02:13am

If you think that's a spoof, you really haven't been around Creationists enough.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2007-04-07 03:02am

dworkin wrote:
SirNitram wrote:'So, if I can do a little basic High School Physics, God will admit to me my own right arm is my salvation? Cool. Always wanted to absolve myself of sins.'
This is my confused look. Huh?

Read the Book Of Job. God reveals a whole list of shit and then says 'When you can do this, I will admit your own right hand is salvation'. Basically, when you can figure out a bunch of things, you're God's equal.

All of them are not impressive from the perspective of 21st century science.

wolveraptor · Post by **wolveraptor** » 2007-04-07 11:22am

That site is a parody. The university they continually bring up doesn't exist. It's hilariously well-done, though.