Palpatine's Rebuilding of the Outer Rim (or whole galaxy) CW

Warsie · Post by **Warsie** » 2007-04-04 12:15am

So, I wonder what happened with the Outer Rim after the Clone Wars. The Outer Rim sieges ended, and the Confederate Remnants likely reactivated the droids, or pirates and other insurgents got to them.

supposedly, after the CW ended, all the ship captains were ordered to return to Coruscant. What does that do with reconstruction, and fighting Confederate Remnants. Given that the rim was in anarchy, and stayed that way for some time, did Pirates hamper any imperial food/assistance efforts? Would Confederate forces use the confusion by returning officers make it worse?

It is known that most imperial atrocities happened in the Outer Rim and this started almost once the droids deactivated. Was this revenge be Palpatine for those worlds seceding, or was it revenge by others in the Empire who experienced Confederate attacks personally (more plausible several years later, as those who were younger during the CW would be in higher ranks)

Given how some Abridon nationalists were held for 20 years, based on Force Commander (the Empire is 23 yrs old at the time of ROTJ, so maybe he was a Confederate guerilla who fought the Imperials until being jailed for 23 years until the Rebels freed him)

Or did the Empire do most of his shit in the Outer Rim because it was easier to hide it there simply.

And don't forget Tarkin as governor of most of the Outer Rim.

Now, what about reconstruction. Supposedly the Empire was brutal to non-human worlds who seceded, and a lesser extant Human secessionists. How was reconstriuction happening? How did Mygeeto get rebuilt? Muunulinst was captured early in the war, and supposedly the CIS retook the world, so if it was captured close to the end, how was it rebuilt, and ended up being a good world by the IR? I know it is a long time, but given the racism, etc it seems that the Empire would demolish the world/fuck the economy on purpose (like Geonosis, Ralltiir, Chandrila).

Did the Empire directly send forces (very likely), did the Empire have NCOs do most reconstruction, etc?

Would you say Palpatine's programs would be more like the Marshall program after WWII by the Allies of whatever Stalin did to rebuild the USSR?

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2007-04-04 02:43am

Most of the outer rim is IIRC, relatively sparse and unsettled worlds; Tatooine is a quite good example of one such world. Essentially, a lot really wouldn't change, except the troops would be wearing imperial grey as opposed to whatever small planetary defense force was exant (if any).

Warsie · Post by **Warsie** » 2007-04-05 10:45pm

MKSheppard wrote:Most of the outer rim is IIRC, relatively sparse and unsettled worlds; Tatooine is a quite good example of one such world. Essentially, a lot really wouldn't change, except the troops would be wearing imperial grey as opposed to whatever small planetary defense force was exant (if any).

yeah, but given how the Clone Wars' Outer Rim sieges happened, how did the Empire rebuild worlds like Muunulinst. I know the Outer RIm iwn't as developed and there are many unpopulated worlds, but I always thought there were more settled worlds (IIRC, wasn't Abridon an Outer Rim world?)

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2007-04-06 10:05am

Is there any information on the Outer Rim seiges?

Vehrec · Post by **Vehrec** » 2007-04-06 10:30am

We know they lasted for months, and were proceeding quite well durring RotS. Unsure what the EU has to say about them. If Travis had her way, each would probably be a force of a thousand clones attacking a single fortress about the size of the Tower of London.

PainRack · Post by **PainRack** » 2007-04-06 11:01am

Vehrec wrote:We know they lasted for months, and were proceeding quite well durring RotS. Unsure what the EU has to say about them. If Travis had her way, each would probably be a force of a thousand clones attacking a single fortress about the size of the Tower of London.

Considering the Cato Neimodia operation, I doubt that anyone can successfully pull that off.

However, I fully expect the operation to be described as just mere regiments.

Warsie · Post by **Warsie** » 2007-04-06 03:55pm

MKSheppard wrote:Is there any information on the Outer Rim seiges?

They were very violent and fucked up a lot of worlds.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Outer_Rim_Sieges

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2007-04-07 05:05pm

Based on some thinking involving the "how many troops it would take to conquer a world" thread; I think the Outer Rim Sieges weren't really sieges as we would understand them.

They were really very long, protracted naval campaigns by both sides across an entire sector to seize the lines of communications around the planets; and the ground fighting was actually very secondary to the naval fighting.

A very good analogy would be Guadalcanal; as tough and nasty as the ground fighting between the USMC and the IJA was, the entire campaign was very secondary to, and depended entirely on control of the sea lanes around Guadalcanal. Once the US Navy had defeated and driven the IJN away, the conquest of Guadalcanal by the US was a foregone conclusion.

Warsie · Post by **Warsie** » 2007-04-07 07:59pm

MKSheppard wrote:They were really very long, protracted naval campaigns by both sides across an entire sector to seize the lines of communications around the planets; and the ground fighting was actually very secondary to the naval fighting.

I believe the sieges were more of blockades of heavily-defended worlds that for some reason didn't have their defenses engage the Republic fleets, and long, nasty duels of large fleets. Also, there were 'front lines', as it is mentioned hoe Grievous placed is fleets at Sluis Van, Ryloth, Sullust, etc to oppose Republic attacks.

EDIT: Communications? The warships can communicate with each other and also often had portable Holonet receivers (at least, the Imperial Navy did)

But the ground being secondary, that is likely. What would happen if the Republic took out/captured/drew away all CIS defense over the world; they did the nasty battles on the ground (these fortress worlds could last indefinitely; given how easy they produce new droids/parts/etc) and the CIS reinforces? Would the GAR reassemble their fleets to engage the CIS, or would they maintain blockade formation and keep the CIS from breaking through their blockades?

A very good analogy would be Guadalcanal; as tough and nasty as the ground fighting between the USMC and the IJA was, the entire campaign was very secondary to, and depended entirely on control of the sea lanes around Guadalcanal. Once the US Navy had defeated and driven the IJN away, the conquest of Guadalcanal by the US was a foregone conclusion.

True.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2007-04-07 08:11pm

Warsie wrote:EDIT: Communications? The warships can communicate with each other and also often had portable Holonet receivers (at least, the Imperial Navy did)

Lines of COmmunication in a military context basically means supply lines; etc. Keeping the LoCs open allows you to ship in transports full of men or ammo.

Warsie · Post by **Warsie** » 2007-04-07 08:13pm

MKSheppard wrote:Lines of COmmunication in a military context basically means supply lines; etc. Keeping the LoCs open allows you to ship in transports full of men or ammo.

Supply lines, okay. But the thing was that these were Fortress Worlds; they didn't need and outside help and could last indefinitely (at least some of the worlds), but yeah the CIS would send fleets and fight to keep the GAR from blockading its' worlds and causing starvation/famine.