Israel seeks $12 billion US aid to maintain aparthide state

ArmorPierce · Post by **ArmorPierce** » 2003-01-05 05:21pm

When did I cheer the death of thousands?

jaeger115 · Post by **jaeger115** » 2003-01-05 05:22pm

Word to the Wise: Don't piss Sheppard off by cheering the
death of thousands of his countrymen after he has spent untold
hours defending you and criticizing the IDF's actions....

Oh, oh, so sorry, there you go again!

No matter if you have defended this country in the past - you're still a fucking racist!

It's like competing in the Special Olympics: You may win the race, but you're still retarded.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-01-05 05:23pm

ArmorPierce wrote:When did I cheer the death of thousands?

It's the palestinians who cheered the deaths of thousands on 9/11.

jaeger115 · Post by **jaeger115** » 2003-01-05 05:23pm

It's the palestinians who cheered the deaths of thousands on 9/11.

Are you saying armorpierce is a palestinian terrorist?

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-01-05 05:24pm

jaeger115 wrote: Oh, oh, so sorry, there you go again! No matter if you have defended this country in the past - you're still a fucking racist!

Get bent, asshole. As far as I'm concerned nowadays, the palestinians
are all terrorist scum that deserve to be chased down and wiped out
like cockroaches.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-01-05 05:24pm

jaeger115 wrote: Are you saying armorpierce is a palestinian terrorist?

Don't play semantics here.

ArmorPierce · Post by **ArmorPierce** » 2003-01-05 05:26pm

Oh, now what you said makes more sense.

jaeger115 · Post by **jaeger115** » 2003-01-05 05:28pm

Don't play semantics here.

Don't play games with me. Look at my sig. I'm the Elite Dark Assassin of the AIIF.

The whole fucking point is that you are spouting racist statements about the palestinians. If Darth Wong was here, he'll be giving you the Imperial Smackdown right about now.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-01-05 05:35pm

jaeger115 wrote: The whole fucking point is that you are spouting racist statements about the palestinians. If Darth Wong was here, he'll be giving you the Imperial Smackdown right about now.

99% of all Suicide bombers in Israel were of Palestinian anecestry, except
for 1 or 2 that were Israeli born.

They cheer on the destruction of Israel, the deaths of innocents,
while sitting in their shacks, and you expect me to be nice to
them after they cheered and danced in the streets as the World
Trade Center crumbled on 9/11?

You're living in a fantasy world.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-01-05 05:37pm

ArmorPierce wrote:
HemlockGrey wrote:Incidentally, I wasn't defending Israel.
Coulda fooled me

I was merely pointing out that Shep's statement was not racist in and of itself.
rac·ism
n.
1.The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2.Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

According to this definition it does mean that shep's statement was racist.

There is no Palestinian race or ethnic grouping however. Just Arab's who happen to live in Palestine.

Falcon · Post by **Falcon** » 2003-01-05 05:37pm

Darth Wong wrote:
The Duchess of Zeon wrote:
Enlightenment wrote:http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/2627561.stm
They're the only reliable ally in the region against the threat of Islamofascism; despite their faults the money must be given without question.
How are they advancing any US interest in the area? All they do is inflame anger and hatred toward the US. Do they enhance world security? Do they help the Americans find Al-Quaeda? Do they stabilize the area? Ha! What kind of ally does nothing but advance its own interests, make everyone hate you, and demand a constant flow of money? Why the fuck should the US hand out $12 billion more to its apartheid parasite "without question"? Are you in the habit of giving endless streams of money to whatever you regard as the least despicable non-humanist regime in any given area?

America also hands out a bunch of aid to countries that have people in them who hate us. Maybe we should just stop giving any money to anyone and let the world take care of itself? I'd go for that.

jaeger115 · Post by **jaeger115** » 2003-01-05 05:38pm

You're ignoring what I said earlier, Shep. I said not all Palestinians think alike. By that, you're living in a fantasy world. Jeez, you need to read all my arguments

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-01-05 05:49pm

ArmorPierce wrote:Coulda fooled me

Uh-huh. Despite the fact that I have numerous anti-Israel arguments posted around these boards, I have suddenly made an about-face with no reason or explanation. Dumbass.

ArmorPierce wrote:rac·ism
n.
1.The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2.Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

According to this definition it does mean that shep's statement was racist

WTF? He said that all the suicide bombers are Arabs. This is not racism, it is a statement of fact. If I said that all Imperial Japanese soldiers were Japanese, or that all Nazis were Germans, would it be a racist statement? Of course not.

ArmorPierce wrote:Cyril, you still think what Shep said isn't racist?

I never said I agreed with his views, I said that 'Yes, all the suicide bombers are terrorists'. Stop twisting my words.

ArmorPierce · Post by **ArmorPierce** » 2003-01-05 05:58pm

HemlockGrey wrote:WTF? He said that all the suicide bombers are Arabs. This is not racism, it is a statement of fact. If I said that all Imperial Japanese soldiers were Japanese, or that all Nazis were Germans, would it be a racist statement? Of course not.

He also said

MKSheppard wrote:FUCK THEM ALL FUCK THEM ALL TO HELL

ArmorPierce wrote:
ArmorPierce wrote:Cyril, you still think what Shep said isn't racist?
I never said I agreed with his views, I said that 'Yes, all the suicide bombers are terrorists'. Stop twisting my words.

I didn't say that you did agree with his views I just asked do you think what Shep said was racist or not. How's that twisting words around?

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-01-05 05:59pm

You are still twisting my words, you jackass. You're trying to make it appear like I support racism, when all I said was that all the suicide bombers are Arabs. This is a fact. Deal with it, and shut the fuck up.

ArmorPierce · Post by **ArmorPierce** » 2003-01-05 06:04pm

HemlockGrey wrote:You are still twisting my words, you jackass. You're trying to make it appear like I support racism, when all I said was that all the suicide bombers are Arabs. This is a fact. Deal with it, and shut the fuck up.

How am I trying to make it appear that you support racism? I'm simply asking whether you think what Shep said was racist. In actuallity I think that you are trying to twist my words to make appear that I am saying that you support racism. All you are trying to say now is that I tried to twist your words around to make you appear racist which I didn't in anyway because I ddid't think you were racist. All I said is "You still think what Shep said isn't racist?" How is that twisting your words around? Now shut the fuck up.

jaeger115 · Post by **jaeger115** » 2003-01-05 06:05pm

I personally don't blame the Palestians for cheering: its hard to be sad when your house was just destroyed a little while ago by a made-in-the-USA apache attack helicopter rocket attack.

Hey, Shep, you see that? How would you feel if some foreign power used Apaches to bomb your house to rubble and you're still outside, watching the destruction? I'd like to see you justify that!

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-01-05 06:09pm

jaeger115 wrote: Hey, Shep, you see that? How would you feel if some foreign power used Apaches to bomb your house to rubble and you're still outside, watching the destruction? I'd like to see you justify that!

Everyone conviently leaves out the fact that the Israelis do this against
the families of DEAD SUICIDE BOMBERS. Great incentive to prevent
your brother/son from going to Allah and taking the infidels with him,
natch?

jaeger115 · Post by **jaeger115** » 2003-01-05 06:14pm

Everyone conviently leaves out the fact that the Israelis do this against
the families of DEAD SUICIDE BOMBERS. Great incentive to prevent
your brother/son from going to Allah and taking the infidels with him,
natch?

It isn't a good plan. It'd just piss them off more.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-01-05 06:17pm

MKSheppard wrote:Everyone conviently leaves out the fact that the Israelis do this against the families of DEAD SUICIDE BOMBERS. Great incentive to prevent your brother/son from going to Allah and taking the infidels with him, natch?

So you feel that it's OK to go after someone's family. That means the actions of the soldier should be punished by attacking his wife and kids, right? Gotcha.

PS. Justify your claim that 100% of the many thousands of destroyed homes in Palestine belonged to suicide bombers.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-01-05 06:18pm

jaeger115 wrote: It isn't a good plan. It'd just piss them off more.

So what? What the fuck ever happened to cause/effect.

"My Brother blew himself up, wounding 100 israelis, yay yay!"

"Oh look, Hamas is here with the $10,000 in money promised
to the families of every suicide bomber!"

"Yay....."

*Israeli AH-64D comes in and rockets house to rubble*

"FUCK SHIT DAMN THOSE ISRAELIS FUCK!"

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-01-05 06:19pm

Darth Wong wrote: So you feel that it's OK to go after someone's family.

When said family is getting $10k in blood money from Hamas/Islamic
Jihad for their relative's fiery suicide bombing....yeah.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-01-05 06:24pm

MKSheppard wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:So you feel that it's OK to go after someone's family.
When said family is getting $10k in blood money from Hamas/Islamic Jihad for their relative's fiery suicide bombing....yeah.

You have just justified Palestinian terrorism and the actions of Al-Quaeda. If it's OK to go after innocents because they may indirectly benefit from actions which harm you, then Hamas is completely justified in attacking any and all Israelis who benefit from Israeli policies. That includes 100% of OT settlers as well as the widow of any Israeli soldier who has life insurance, or the family of any Israeli soldier for that matter.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-01-05 06:32pm

Darth Wong wrote: You have just justified Palestinian terrorism and the actions of Al-Quaeda. If it's OK to go after innocents because they may indirectly benefit from actions which harm you, then Hamas is completely justified in attacking any and all Israelis who benefit from Israeli policies. That includes 100% of OT settlers as well as the widow of any Israeli soldier who has life insurance, or the family of any Israeli soldier for that matter.

What a fucking load of bollocks.

The people who benefit from Israeli policies are their own civilians, who
live longer and don't die as messily from homicide bombings when hard-line
measures are in effect.

Great linkage of a soldier doing his job with a mass murderer whose only
mission is to walk into a crowded supermarket or shopping center and
detonate his DuPont Suit and kill dozens and maim hundreds.

And when it's all over, the mass murderer's family is given $10k in money
for doing precisely that: being a mass murderer.

Should we start giving $10,000 in money out to every fucking serial
killer/mass murderer out there? Should we pay $10,000 to the families
of Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold?

Next of Kin · Post by **Next of Kin** » 2003-01-05 06:37pm

MKSheppard wrote: Great linkage of a soldier doing his job with a mass murderer whose only
mission is to walk into a crowded supermarket or shopping center and
detonate his DuPont Suit and kill dozens and maim hundreds.

No, you want to have those soldiers go in and execute a family which may or may not be guilty because a wayward son decided to blow himself up in the name of Allah; they'd be killers in the same sense.

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