Useful Trek Tech Poll

[Starglider]

The prevailing opinion seems to be 'no', but this should settle the issue. Lost tech and one-episode wonders are included if there's a reasonable chance of the blueprints or undiscovered examples still being around (i.e. for the purposes of this poll, Starfleet still has the blueprints for the interphase cloak the genesis torpedo and all the stuff the various crews built, and there are still examples of Iconian tech waiting to be discovered). Alien devices (e.g. borg weapons) are included. Alien species are also included, if the Empire could convincingly conquer them (no Q) and make use of them in some significant way.

[Ritterin Sophia]

I can think of only one thing, Industrial Transporters would help, if the Empire could find a way to modify it so they wouldn't be blocked by their own ship reactors.

[Darth Wong]

Their cosmetic surgery techniques are very, very good. The Star Trek writers really did project their own Hollywood culture onto the 24th century, didn't they?

[wilfulton]

Rather human-like androids, it might be more a cosmetic feature, but I'd imagine you could find a buyer in the SW galaxy for something of that nature.

[Ritterin Sophia]

Rather human-like androids, it might be more a cosmetic feature, but I'd imagine you could find a buyer in the SW galaxy for something of that nature.

Already got them, and they look more humanoid than Data.

[Darth Ruinus]

I was thinking about the Genesis device but, wouldnt that defeat the purpose of the Death Star, the Sun Crusher, and the DBZ? Doesn't seem like the Empire would like that so I voted no.

[Ritterin Sophia]

I was thinking about the Genesis device but, wouldnt that defeat the purpose of the Death Star, the Sun Crusher, and the DBZ? Doesn't seem like the Empire would like that so I voted no.

I wasn't aware the events that occured in Dragon Ball Z took place in the Star Wars Universe... perhaps we should inform Toriyama or Lucas that Toriyama's engaging in copyright infringement.

[Stark]

Well Goku CAN render planets uninhabitable...

[Starglider]

My answer, for anyone who didn't see this thread, is that the only piece of Trek tech that is unquestionably of extreme value to the Empire is Iconian gateway technology. Mainly because I justs checked the canon, and they are multiple examples of it being able to target moving starships (across interstellar distances, with only the gateway's built in sensors, despite the presence of shields around the targets, without being detectable by sensors) as well as arbitrary points on planetary surfaces, with a range of at least 70,000 light years. That's just sick: perfect accuracy, unblockable, untractable teleportation across transgalactic distances. It is in fact the only Trek technology I've seen that could plausibly give the Federation a fighting chance against the Empire (by using it to teleport warheads directly into the engineering spaces of Imperial ships - though the Federation are such strategic muppets they aren't certain to win even with that advantage). I'll bet Mike's Conquest version of Picard regrets blowing up the only example they got their hands when the ISDs come to visiting sector 001. Of course under normal versus rules rather than the extremely generous rules of this poll, no lost tech is allowed so this isn't a factor.

Everything else in Trek is a marginal, 'might be useful under certain circumstances, if certain assumptions hold' case at best. The Federation in particular has a stunning amount of tech that is literally worse than useless from an Imperial point of view.

[Teleros]

Well their teleporters will be useful for cargo, not to mention those people who don't have any issues with being destroyed and rebuilt elsewhere. I'm also wondering if some of their holographic technology might be useful - I haven't read much of the EU so I'm not sure if they've got as good / better though. Plus various one episode wonder devices, but I'm not going to start going through them .

[Ritterin Sophia]

Yeah, a manufacturer could make a fortune selling a holodeck to the elite of Imperial Society.

[Teleros]

Actually if they can get holodeck technology working on the battlefield with the safeties removed, well... how many soldiers did you want again ?

[Lord Pounder]

IIRC the GFFA has technology something like a holodeck. IIRC in the Jedi Academy trilogy the solo kids are taken by 3PO to the zoo where all the creatures are solid holograms. Also transporter would be useless. A good energy field or even metal in the rocks can scatter the transport beam. Also have you noticed that when the crew transports they seem to be aimmobile for a few seconds after, that just begs for an artilery bombardment to wipe them all out.

[Teleros]

No transporters would be useful, just not in a military sense (jamming for starters). But for cargo or a near-instant replacement for the taxi (assuming you don't mind how it works) it'd be excellent. ST technology doesn't have to have a military application to be useful you know .

[Lord Pounder]

So transporters can do what a docking claw and strong wookie can't?

[Teleros]

The point is they can do it a lot faster. It's like comparing your docking claw with ancient Egyptians building pyramids: both can do it, but guess which one does it quicker?

[Lord Pounder]

Funnily enough the SW culture is a lot more advanced yet they never found a need for them.

Also or shipping it's a really bad idea. Why trasnport something when you can replicate it. Which is essentially how freight transporters work. People will know the difference it's not made in America if it's build it America carried by ship to England, destroyed and rebuilt in the recipiants home.

[Teleros]

Point - can see lots of unemployed freighter crews now . Still, IIRC there are some things you can't teleport or replicate (at least easily), so there's some hope for the shipping companies. There may also be worlds where teleporters or the data for them to teleport-replicate from etc will be scarce, and so where freighters will still find a use.

[NecronLord]

Alien species are also included, if the Empire could convincingly conquer them (no Q) and make use of them in some significant way.

In that case, yes. The more advanced Trek races, say, Trelane's, make the Galactic Empire look like apes bashing rocks together. I've not seen the Empire's children making any planets and moving them around FTL lately...

[Lord Pounder]

well not lately, but soneone in thw GFFA had the power to make the Corellian System and The Maw

[Shroom Man 777]

Replicators. That'd make crappy restaurants run by four-armed alien slobs with a fetish for Kamino saber darts obsolete.

[Teleros]

I thought the food was supposed to be substandard from replicators? Our alien slob might still be in with a chance lol.

[Ritterin Sophia]

Alien species are also included, if the Empire could convincingly conquer them (no Q) and make use of them in some significant way.

In that case, yes. The more advanced Trek races, say, Trelane's, make the Galactic Empire look like apes bashing rocks together. I've not seen the Empire's children making any planets and moving them around FTL lately...

Actually, I kind of remember there being a term for planets that were equipped with Hyperdrives, but I can't for the life of me remember

[NecronLord]

Actually, I kind of remember there being a term for planets that were equipped with Hyperdrives, but I can't for the life of me remember

As I recall, Palpatine gave out worldships as party favours in Vonda McIntyre's The Crystal Star, but it's a long time since I've read that. There are indeed such devices in Star Wars, but Trelane's machines apparently fitted in a suitcase and could be operated by a child. And I'm pretty sure the world ships in question were more like miniature death stars than full blown planets. What's more, he 'made' the planet on his own.

[General Zod]

No transporters would be useful, just not in a military sense (jamming for starters). But for cargo or a near-instant replacement for the taxi (assuming you don't mind how it works) it'd be excellent. ST technology doesn't have to have a military application to be useful you know .

Of course if the cargo happens to contain materials that make the transporters go wonky, or has material that doesn't react well to being transported, you're boned.