I'm not sure the message means there are other Time Lords. The Doctor has been so focussed on being 'last of the Time Lords' he's largely forgotten that there are other people (other than Rose even) who care about him. He's not alone, he's *never* alone.
Boe called him 'the last Time Lord' seconds before delivering his message. Maybe he's not making sense in his last moments.
The Doctor needs a zero tolerance policy on Daleks, though. I expect Sec to build some non-Time War Daleks that can show up later then get schooled: it's somewhat retarded that the Doctor just keeps losing everything over and over to the Daleks and doesn't simply blast Sec with a Space Gun. I mean, he's a peacenik and all, but HONESTLY.
Vympel wrote:Is that cat bloke whatshisface from Father Ted?
I asked this last week. And the answer is yes. It is Ardal O'hanlon from Father Ted and My Hero fame. Also one of my favourite comedy actors.
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Admiral Valdemar wrote:
Or, it could just be in our own galaxy, since the Milky Way is 100 kilolights in diameter.
I'm pretty sure that New Earth said it was in a different galaxy from Earth.
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If this is supposed to be after Earth died why so many humans?
I thought that skin was the last human.
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Gustav32Vasa wrote:If this is supposed to be after Earth died why so many humans?
I thought that skin was the last human.
The last pure human. You can read that as Last Aryan. Didn't you notice the bone white guy, the cat people, and all the other stuff? No one there is Homo Sapiens Sapiens but Martha.
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Skelron wrote:
No I wonder if the Master is a false lead, that perhaps we will see the Master and have the Doctor think that was who the face was talking about only to have it revealed that he meant someone else... someone perhaps Boa was hiding for their own safety or something similar.
OK so it's a "there is another Skywalker..." thing now, with Boa keeping the other Time Lord's identity secret to keep him safe from the Daleks?
End of the Worlds said straight out that the Earth had been abandoned for ages, anyway; it's destruction didn't affect human civilisation at all.
I'm pretty sure the cat people were immigrants, rather than modified/evolved/mutated humans, but now that Ardal O'Hanlon has had kittens, that's sort of moot anyway.
"So you want to live on a planet?"
"No. I think I'd find it a bit small and wierd."
"Aren't they dangerous? Don't they get hit by stuff?"
The humanoid "cat people" are likely direct descendants of domestic felines who were uplifted by humanity into full sentience millions of years ago - a pseudo-human reproducing with a cat humanoid is possible due to the Culture-level technology featured in New Earth of the distant Messier 87 galaxy.
I assumed that they were simply another alien race, who were mostly concerned with running medical facilities, and some of them settled down on New Earth.
"So you want to live on a planet?"
"No. I think I'd find it a bit small and wierd."
"Aren't they dangerous? Don't they get hit by stuff?"
There's blatantly some human or at least humanoid, in them, despite their descent from cats. The Forest of Cheem are human-tree hybrids, too.
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One thing I find refreshing about the Whoverse, compared to an "old favourtie" so to speak like Star Trek, is that the table upon when you can set up your pieces to tell a story is damn near limitless. In fact the concept is a bit like Futurama where something that is hilarous to us might totally be nothing to bat an eyelid at in the 31st century, which adds to the hilarity I might add.
The New Earth episodes take place in the year 5 billion plus change. I mean, as a storyteller you're given a blank canvas some "what has gone before" factor like the Face of Boe and Sister Hane, and the sky is your limit in telling a story.
That's what makes Doctor Who stands out, the Doctor's bipolar charm and wit notwithstanding, and therein lies the potential of screwing up the story... for example, Macra? Fantastic! Haven't seen them in years... but they could have put any new alien creature in there and the story wouldn't be affected.
So... anthropomorphic cats? Forest of Cheem? Alien werewolves? Clockwork robots with time portals on a ship eviscerating humans to repair the parts? I think with the right writer, you can have singing zombie cybernetic hamsters with wings that talks in rhymes in Jamaican accents and they'd work in a Doctor Who episode.
Was it just me, or did none of the skeletons in the senate have any clothing on them meaning they were either naked when they died or all the clothes rotted away in the 24 years ?
Two gripes I had with this generally enjoyable episode (far superior to the last one, mind):
1. Every car in the motorway is exactly the same type. A black van. Boring and unrealistic.
2. Unbelievable amounts of pollution from said individual vans. I would've thought in the year 5 billion (or was it 5 million?) they'd have clean flying cars. Seemed a contrived device to add the Macra as a danger.
Vympel wrote:Two gripes I had with this generally enjoyable episode (far superior to the last one, mind):
1. Every car in the motorway is exactly the same type. A black van. Boring and unrealistic.
They're not actually *exactly* the same - there are several different shapes visible when the Doctor is travelling downward. Similar, unimaginative, dark vans, though.
Vympel wrote:2. Unbelievable amounts of pollution from said individual vans. I would've thought in the year 5 billion (or was it 5 million?) they'd have clean flying cars. Seemed a contrived device to add the Macra as a danger.
I figured the vehicles had simply been running for 24 years and needed a service. They weren't very well designed in other ways either - like the aircon.
I enjoyed that ep, the makeup on the catpeople is just spectacular.
Vympel wrote:1. Every car in the motorway is exactly the same type. A black van. Boring and unrealistic.
Perhaps they just look black after a decade or so in a smoggy gridlock?
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Big Orange wrote:The humanoid "cat people" are likely direct descendants of domestic felines who were uplifted by humanity into full sentience millions of years ago - a pseudo-human reproducing with a cat humanoid is possible due to the Culture-level technology featured in New Earth of the distant Messier 87 galaxy.
I simply assumed that they are the result of 3 million years of evolution on the descendants of a domestic cat on a rogue mining ship...
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