Reign of Terror plagirizing by Mike_6002

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2003-01-06 02:14am

I never liked that little fucktard when he was here and then he does something that I as an author ABHOR. He is now taking SOMEONE ELSE's idea and just pawning it off on his own. It shows a lack of creativity and general weaseliness that I do not like.

Mike (Now SD.Net reject on SB) is taking Lord Wong's whole premise and simply reworking it by changing the ship class...he's using netizens from ASVS (BTW Netizens who he doesn;t even really know) etc....

I don't know why this bothers me so much but it just really irked me when I read it. All this from a casual lurk on SB while deciding whether to register.

BTW the link is here:
http://kier.3dfrontier.com/forums/showt ... adid=42477

Darth Fanboy · Post by **Darth Fanboy** » 2003-01-06 02:18am

wow, that's pathetic.

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2003-01-06 02:31am

I'm a SBer and I've posted a warning on that thread.

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2003-01-06 02:32am

Copying someone's idea accidentally or unintentionally is okay. Deliberate plagiarism, as Stravo has said, is absolutely despicable.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-01-06 03:12am

What, did Mike_6002 think we needed more evidence that he's a jackass?

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2003-01-06 03:25am

He's probably trying to get the board to like him, approve of him, or something. Or maybe he's trying to make himself feel important.

Unlike here in sd.net, where he would probably be shot down for this kind of stuff, over at SB everyone'll probably not even notice that he and his "fic" exist.

Both are kind of fitting punishments IMO

Jason von Evil · Post by **Jason von Evil** » 2003-01-06 09:19am

Ah, so that's who Reject is, was wondering. Anyways, I hope he realizes that plagiarism is illegal.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2003-01-06 01:08pm

I hope that fucking asshat gets what he deserves...

Post by **Kuja** » 2003-01-06 04:19pm

that fucking asshat wrote:Admiral Timothy Jones sat with an smug arrogantly look on his face in his command chair on the bridge of USS Lakota staring out into to the infinty on the viewscreen. He just sat there smiling waiting for the kilometer long organic-like behemoth to come to him. Then the sensor officer called to him "Sir the Bethemoth just dropped out of it's FLT drive and is attacking Utopia Plainta." Then the Admrial Jones ordered the ship to go to Red Alert and arm all weapons and to set of course for the Larange point between the Earth and the Moon. He antipated once it was done attacking Mars it would probally try to attack the moon or Earth next, he would be in the perfect postion to catch'em and destroy that monsorty. Jones thought he could win this engagement and be a hero he thought to himself, "That ship uses 'laser' batteries for it weapons, they wouldn't he pentrate the navagational deflector." He just sat there and waited for it to come.

Y'know, aside from the name and premise of a ship in the AQ, this doesn't really resemble RoT....

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2003-01-06 04:24pm

IG-88E wrote:
that fucking asshat wrote:<snip>
Y'know, aside from the name and premise of a ship in the AQ, this doesn't really resemble RoT....

ROTFLMMFGDQQAO!!!!

It really doesn't. I still wanna shove my Railgun so far up his ass, it'll knock out his teeth, to paraphrase MC Hawking

Pablo Sanchez · Post by **Pablo Sanchez** » 2003-01-06 04:56pm

I just don't get that dumbass. He's such a wannabe, and he's not even a wannabe for a group that really matters.

General G · Post by **General G** » 2003-01-06 07:17pm

http://kier.3dfrontier.com/forums/showt ... adid=42498

He's probably trying to get the board to like him, approve of him, or something. Or maybe he's trying to make himself feel important.

He is not doing too well at it.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-01-06 07:21pm

That boy needs help. He's got a screw loose or something; I don't know whether to feel sorry for him or contemptuous of him.

Mark S · Post by **Mark S** » 2003-01-06 07:26pm

Darth Wong wrote:That boy needs help. He's got a screw loose or something; I don't know whether to feel sorry for him or contemptuous of him.

Contemptuous. Always gotta be a little bit hostile.

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2003-01-06 07:54pm

IG-88E wrote:
that fucking asshat wrote:Admiral Timothy Jones sat with an smug arrogantly look on his face in his command chair on the bridge of USS Lakota staring out into to the infinty on the viewscreen. He just sat there smiling waiting for the kilometer long organic-like behemoth to come to him. Then the sensor officer called to him "Sir the Bethemoth just dropped out of it's FLT drive and is attacking Utopia Plainta." Then the Admrial Jones ordered the ship to go to Red Alert and arm all weapons and to set of course for the Larange point between the Earth and the Moon. He antipated once it was done attacking Mars it would probally try to attack the moon or Earth next, he would be in the perfect postion to catch'em and destroy that monsorty. Jones thought he could win this engagement and be a hero he thought to himself, "That ship uses 'laser' batteries for it weapons, they wouldn't he pentrate the navagational deflector." He just sat there and waited for it to come.
Y'know, aside from the name and premise of a ship in the AQ, this doesn't really resemble RoT....

No, it steasl the premise and intro idea, but you are right, the rest is not from wong.

It's an almost exact lift from Against all Odds.

Sonnenburg · Post by **Sonnenburg** » 2003-01-06 10:52pm

Here's my thoughts.

1) The only time it's okay to lift ideas from someone else is if it demonstrates an obvious (or even subtle) homage. Lifting and saying "this was someone else's idea" doesn't cut it.

1a) I suppose I might cut some slack if it was from a work that was no longer being continued and you stated ahead of time you just wanted to finish this story you liked so much. Even then I think an effort should be made to secure the original author's position.

2) While I always appreciate publicity, the lift is actually from Boyd's Battleground Alpha. This scene made an appearance in Against All Odds as part of Mara Jade's moving through alternate realities, but it was originally taken from BA.

3) I don't mind making appearances in other people's work, but please remember: I'm German, not Jewish. Not that I'm anti-Semetic, but ask a German for Jewish humor and you're asking for trouble ("Okay, two rabbi's walk into an oven..."). Sonnenberg is Jewish, Sonnenburg is German.

3a) Now ask a Jew for German humor and it's really funny (see Mel Brooks' The Producers).

4) I don't know what this obsession is with listing the technical specifications of ships in a story before the damn things has even started. A pile of tech specs and a paragraph aren't enough to draw anyone into a story.

5) What's Star Trek X? The story of a Vulcan who converts to the Church of Islam? "By any means necessary, Jim."

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2003-01-07 02:56am

After reading his "Prologue," I let out a really kick-ass fart.

I'm not sure if that tells you anything, but take from it what you will.

Post by **Dalton** » 2003-01-07 03:13am

Durandal wrote:After reading his "Prologue," I let out a really kick-ass fart.

I'm not sure if that tells you anything, but take from it what you will.

Well, it sounds like something Baron would say. Does that help?

Post by **Dalton** » 2003-01-07 03:19am

OK! I will now make a declaration.

Mike_6002, aka SD.Net Reject, aka Loser: He shall join the ranks of the rejects: those whose work has been BANNED from the ASVS Fanfic Archive. Alongside the likes of Sean P. Collins and Matthew Syz...Sez...whatever, the only other people to ever receive such a ban, Mike_6002 is hereby declared an Archive Pariah and none of his works shall ever reside on the Fanfic Archive.

Not like he asked. This is just a pre-emptive ban.

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2003-01-07 11:40am

A fair and just decision Dalton. I'm sure it will rankle his pathetic wannabee ass too. So much the better.

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2003-01-07 04:03pm

Dalton wrote:
Durandal wrote:After reading his "Prologue," I let out a really kick-ass fart.

I'm not sure if that tells you anything, but take from it what you will.
Well, it sounds like something Baron would say. Does that help?

Immensely.

Post by **Dalton** » 2003-01-07 04:18pm

Durandal wrote:
Dalton wrote:
Durandal wrote:After reading his "Prologue," I let out a really kick-ass fart.

I'm not sure if that tells you anything, but take from it what you will.
Well, it sounds like something Baron would say. Does that help?
Immensely.

So are you gonna kill yourself now, or after you find a lovely little sheep to call your own?

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-01-07 04:31pm

Dalton wrote:So are you gonna kill yourself now, or after you find a lovely little sheep to call your own?

His sheep is already on the way direct from SCOTLAND using USPS
NEXT DAY AIR.

Hope it isn't one of Boyd's tactical nuke sheep.....

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2003-01-07 05:38pm

Dalton wrote:
Durandal wrote:
Dalton wrote: Well, it sounds like something Baron would say. Does that help?
Immensely.
So are you gonna kill yourself now, or after you find a lovely little sheep to call your own?

The only likeness I have to Baron is various, off-the-cuff farting remarks. I have neither suicidal tendencies, nor a fondness for beastiality. I've publicly remarked that I don't like hairy pussies, so what could a sheep possibly do for me, anyway?

Post by **Dalton** » 2003-01-07 07:14pm

Durandal wrote:The only likeness I have to Baron is various, off-the-cuff farting remarks. I have neither suicidal tendencies, nor a fondness for beastiality. I've publicly remarked that I don't like hairy pussies, so what could a sheep possibly do for me, anyway?

Not in a very jocular mood tonight dude?