ThatGuyFromThatPlace wrote:Two questions:
1. Has Jango ever been shown canonically to lay a trap of this sort for a target?
Not to my knowledge. There might be some EU instance.
ThatGuyFromThatPlace wrote:2. Did the Alliance Know that the tams were still traveling with Malcolm before triggering River?
As far as I know, the Alliance never knew the Tams were travelling on Serenity until the Operative had one of her mental conditioning controls tripped with that subliminal message. The agent who signaled the Alliance in the pilot wasn't able to identify the ship or its crew before Wash scrambled communications.
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How about the Hands of Blue? In the comic, which is between the movie and the series, they DID chase the Serenity. There was no other Alliance guys, but they knew River was in Serenity - which is why they conscripted that agent in the pilot episode (who survived but got a robotic eye).
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Shroom Man 777 wrote:How about the Hands of Blue? In the comic, which is between the movie and the series, they DID chase the Serenity. There was no other Alliance guys, but they knew River was in Serenity - which is why they conscripted that agent in the pilot episode (who survived but got a robotic eye).
Whuh? I don't remember that agent ever appearing again.
And the agents never knew it was Serenity. The only time they got close was when Jayne called the Feds on Simon and River while they were at the hospital.
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-- The King of Swamp Castle, Monty Python and the Holy Grail
"Nothing of consequence happened today. " -- Diary of King George III, July 4, 1776
"This is not bad; this is a conspiracy to remove happiness from existence. It seeks to wrap its hedgehog hand around the still beating heart of the personification of good and squeeze until it is stilled."
-- Chuck Sonnenburg on Voyager's "Elogium"
Ted C wrote:Whuh? I don't remember that agent ever appearing again.
And the agents never knew it was Serenity. The only time they got close was when Jayne called the Feds on Simon and River while they were at the hospital.
Oh... duh... you said in the comic.
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-- The King of Swamp Castle, Monty Python and the Holy Grail
"Nothing of consequence happened today. " -- Diary of King George III, July 4, 1776
"This is not bad; this is a conspiracy to remove happiness from existence. It seeks to wrap its hedgehog hand around the still beating heart of the personification of good and squeeze until it is stilled."
-- Chuck Sonnenburg on Voyager's "Elogium"
Would Jango be brutal enough to wipe out all of Mal's contacts like the Operative did? I know nothing of him other than from AotC, so I'm just wondering how far he'll go if he can't get to Serenity directly.
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But wiping out all of Mal's contacts did not work, so whether he's that ruthless doesn't matter. If he doesn't set up a trap with Inara (which I can't see him doing with his own personal brand of honor) or hunt Mal down directly (which the Operative knew he wasn't capable of, hence why he wiped out the places for Mal to hide) then he doesn't get to Mal to overwhelm him with his combat get-up.
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ThatGuyFromThatPlace wrote:But wiping out all of Mal's contacts did not work, so whether he's that ruthless doesn't matter. If he doesn't set up a trap with Inara (which I can't see him doing with his own personal brand of honor) or hunt Mal down directly (which the Operative knew he wasn't capable of, hence why he wiped out the places for Mal to hide) then he doesn't get to Mal to overwhelm him with his combat get-up.
The question wasn't "would it work", rather "would he do it". Because if he doesn't get that desparate, Mal and Co. now have many different options other than going balls crazy into Reaver country.
But the question was mainly asked to see how far Jango himself would go in this situation, as I know nothing about him.
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Darth Wong wrote:The Operative had a curious respect for Malcolm, and could have killed him several times but didn't (for example, the time he shot Malcolm in the back, but used a non-lethal setting on his energy weapon).
I assumed the weapon he scavenged simply didn't have a lethal setting. rather than the Operative forgoing using it. He was rather pissed off at the time IIRC.
NeoGoomba wrote:Would Jango be brutal enough to wipe out all of Mal's contacts like the Operative did? I know nothing of him other than from AotC, so I'm just wondering how far he'll go if he can't get to Serenity directly.
Well, Boba was smart enough to actually find and follow Han to his port of harbor. Actually getting there BEFORE him. It wouldn't be out of the way to say that Jango would let Mal get to wherever he was going (luling him into a false sense of security), only to have followed him there.
Then again, Shep doesn't look like the kind of guy to sell out his friends.
Some of you guys are making Jango out to be more like Rambo. The guy has gone stealth before, he's taken his time before, he's used disguises before. He's not necessarily going to run around guns blazing all the time.
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Crazedwraith wrote:I assumed the weapon he scavenged simply didn't have a lethal setting. rather than the Operative forgoing using it. He was rather pissed off at the time IIRC.
We saw in Trash and Ariel that the Alliance uses some non-lethal stun weapons. It wouldn't be too surprising for them to issues those as standard sidearms to naval crew.
"This is supposed to be a happy occasion... Let's not bicker and argue about who killed who."
-- The King of Swamp Castle, Monty Python and the Holy Grail
"Nothing of consequence happened today. " -- Diary of King George III, July 4, 1776
"This is not bad; this is a conspiracy to remove happiness from existence. It seeks to wrap its hedgehog hand around the still beating heart of the personification of good and squeeze until it is stilled."
-- Chuck Sonnenburg on Voyager's "Elogium"
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