Dante Leonhart: Homophobic Racist VS Video Maker

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Surlethe wrote:I wouldn't bother responding. He's just trolling to salvage what's left of his shredded and tattered pride.
You're right. He isn't worth it anymore.

Oh, and a cleaner version of the YouTube video can be downloaded here.
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PeZook wrote: You know, for all the vitriol they throw SD.net's way, bannings for impopular views...simply don't happen here. Lots of people were banned simply for being obtuse, borderline retarded or for daring MW to do so, but I've never seen someone banned for arguing his point, even if his stance is unpopular on the board.

While it seems some other forums simply ban anyone who doesn't seem to conform to their views, without so much as giving him a warning.
We've had at least 2 cases of people being banned for an opinion:
1- The white supremacist racist fucks from the WCOTC
2- That peadophile and his hangers on

Hoever no one with half a brain would say those are examples of us banning for no reason apart from we didn't like what they were saying.
Anyone remember anymore?
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Melvin isn't learning....
Dante Leonhart via YouTube wrote:Mr. DeHart,

This is an official warning from Leonhart Studios to inform you that you are in violation of intellectual property. The offending video, "Dante Leonhart and the Realities of US Copyright Law" which is located at this address:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0wJynGL ... lated&sear ch=

incorporates scenes from "Bridge Commander: Ep II" created by DanteLeonhart, located at this address:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpOyBqkg ... lated&sear ch=

The offending scene occurs at 00:17 to 00:42.

It has been expressly stated that no part of this video may be used without direct permission.

No permission has been given to you by the creator of the mod who's work is used in this scene.

No permission has been given or authorized for you to incorporate any scenes (in whole or in part) from this video into your own. You are hereby required to either edit the offending scenes or remove the video entirely. If no response is given within 2 days of the sending of this message, administrative action will be followed.

Thank you for your cooperation.

This message has been forwarded to Youtube Administration.
There are two kinds of people in the world: the kind who think it’s perfectly reasonable to strip-search a 13-year-old girl suspected of bringing ibuprofen to school, and the kind who think those people should be kept as far away from children as possible … Sometimes it’s hard to tell the difference between drug warriors and child molesters.” - Jacob Sullum[/size][/align]
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Vohu Manah wrote:Melvin isn't learning....
Dante Leonhart via YouTube wrote:Mr. DeHart,

This is an official warning from Leonhart Studios to inform you that you are in violation of intellectual property. The offending video, "Dante Leonhart and the Realities of US Copyright Law" which is located at this address:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0wJynGL ... lated&sear ch=

incorporates scenes from "Bridge Commander: Ep II" created by DanteLeonhart, located at this address:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpOyBqkg ... lated&sear ch=

The offending scene occurs at 00:17 to 00:42.

It has been expressly stated that no part of this video may be used without direct permission.

No permission has been given to you by the creator of the mod who's work is used in this scene.

No permission has been given or authorized for you to incorporate any scenes (in whole or in part) from this video into your own. You are hereby required to either edit the offending scenes or remove the video entirely. If no response is given within 2 days of the sending of this message, administrative action will be followed.

Thank you for your cooperation.

This message has been forwarded to Youtube Administration.
Did you send a rebuttal to Youtube?
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Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:Did you send a rebuttal to Youtube?
I may forward this as harassment, but he has yet to officially file a DMCA takedown request.
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Vohu Manah wrote:
Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:Did you send a rebuttal to Youtube?
I may forward this as harassment, but he has yet to officially file a DMCA takedown request.
Why not do so? With morons like these, the only option is to crush them under the sheer weight of logic to make sure they understand the concept of it.
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Vohu Manah wrote:Melvin isn't learning....
Well well...looks like I'll have to do some further cleaning up.

Sorry, Ian. You've already lost your web page. Let's see what else we can do.

BTW, did Melvin create that "Dildo Cuntfart" animated logo for his studios?

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Lord Poe wrote:BTW, did Melvin create that "Dildo Cuntfart" animated logo for his studios?

8)
Even if he did, it would also probably not qualify for copyright.
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Vohu Manah wrote:
Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:Did you send a rebuttal to Youtube?
I may forward this as harassment, but he has yet to officially file a DMCA takedown request.
You should do it now.
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2000AD wrote:We've had at least 2 cases of people being banned for an opinion:
1- The white supremacist racist fucks from the WCOTC
They were challenged to prove their retarded claim that non-whites are objectively inferior in some way, and failed. When they failed, they invaded and were summarily banned.

It was entirely justified.
2000AD wrote:2- That peadophile and his hangers on
To be honest, I don't remember this case, so I'll take your word on it. It's a thousand times more justified than what the Leonheart Studios forum pulled.
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Dante Leonhart via YouTube wrote:Mr. DeHart,

This is an official warning from Leonhart Studios to inform you that you are in violation of intellectual property. The offending video, "Dante Leonhart and the Realities of US Copyright Law" which is located at this address:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0wJynGL ... lated&sear ch=

incorporates scenes from "Bridge Commander: Ep II" created by DanteLeonhart, located at this address:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpOyBqkg ... lated&sear ch=

The offending scene occurs at 00:17 to 00:42.

It has been expressly stated that no part of this video may be used without direct permission.

No permission has been given to you by the creator of the mod who's work is used in this scene.

No permission has been given or authorized for you to incorporate any scenes (in whole or in part) from this video into your own. You are hereby required to either edit the offending scenes or remove the video entirely. If no response is given within 2 days of the sending of this message, administrative action will be followed.

Thank you for your cooperation.

This message has been forwarded to Youtube Administration.
Jesus. Someone apparently doesn't know what "fair use" is.` Also, I wonder what the fuck kind of corporation takes seriously an "official email" that has "who's" and "whose" mixed up.
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PeZook wrote:To be honest, I don't remember this case, so I'll take your word on it. It's a thousand times more justified than what the Leonheart Studios forum pulled.
Perhaps he speaks of PatKelly?
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Surlethe wrote:
Dante Leonhart via YouTube wrote:<snip>
Jesus. Someone apparently doesn't know what "fair use" is.` Also, I wonder what the fuck kind of corporation takes seriously an "official email" that has "who's" and "whose" mixed up.
Wow, just, just wow... He really doesn't learn... Well, nothing to do but forward this to your friends. I guess, if it continues you can cliam a harresment case against him... Though, I'll note he isn't impersonating a Youtube Admin this time ;)

Really, send a response asking him just what the hell he plans on doing about it. More then that, ask him to provide the legal reason he (thinks) has for asking you to take the material down. That should shut him up.

EDIT: LOL!! I just had a greeeeeat idea... Begin making hosts of generic silly videos, each featuring 5 to 10 seconds of his work... if that doesn't bring him out as a loon nothing will.
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General Schatten wrote:
PeZook wrote:To be honest, I don't remember this case, so I'll take your word on it. It's a thousand times more justified than what the Leonheart Studios forum pulled.
Perhaps he speaks of PatKelly?
Aaaah...him.

Okay, one example. Of subhuman scum. I still don't think Dante's little cockweasels have a case against SD.net :P
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Vohu Manah, when you file the counter-claim, make sure you sign it James T Kirk.
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Lord Poe wrote:Vohu Manah, when you file the counter-claim, make sure you sign it James T Kirk.
Yes, one wonder how these claims can be filed under the name of a fucking cartoon character.
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PeZook wrote:
2000AD wrote:We've had at least 2 cases of people being banned for an opinion:
1- The white supremacist racist fucks from the WCOTC
They were challenged to prove their retarded claim that non-whites are objectively inferior in some way, and failed. When they failed, they invaded and were summarily banned.

It was entirely justified.
Yeah, but i'm sure no one sane would complain if we'd have banned them outright without having some fun first.
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Surlethe wrote:Jesus. Someone apparently doesn't know what "fair use" is.` Also, I wonder what the fuck kind of corporation takes seriously an "official email" that has "who's" and "whose" mixed up.
Youtube took Wayne's videos down because of this tard's actions so he clearly thinks he has a point. I say let him continue digging his own grave.
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What's strange is, I've never had to be "asked" to take down a video before. When Youtube wanted a video down, they just yanked it, no questions, no explanation. I had one video of a Bruce Lee fight, and Lee had a cell phone ringtone that was the theme from "Enter The Dragon". That got pulled. Another was a lightsaber fight between Darth Maul and Darth Vader, using a song from "Fastway". And of course, "Talifan!".
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Vohu Manah wrote:
Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:Did you send a rebuttal to Youtube?
I may forward this as harassment, but he has yet to officially file a DMCA takedown request.
It is harrassment. Mr. Poe's account has been suspended because of this tard. Get ahead of him, file a counter-complaint immediately.

Be sure to point out that, since "Bridge Commander: Ep II" is the point under discussion, it is clearly covered under fair use. Unlike Poe's Trailer, where review is a matter of interpretation, you are obviously and directly including the sequence as a comment and review of the case at hand, to which seeing the disputed portion of the video is clearly relevant.

Fair use has to satisfy four requirements:
U.S. Copyright Law wrote:
  1. the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;
  2. the nature of the copyrighted work;
  3. amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and
  4. the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.
For 1, your use is clearly for review purposes, to outline the sequence that is under dispute, for purposes of discussion about whether inclusion of the sequence in other work consitutes a copyright violation.

For 2, the visuals are produced by a machinima engine. This is actually an important point: the shot can be reproduced de neuvo from the Bridge Commander software, and how do we know that Mr. Lyin'hard produced this sequence on his own, or just ripped it from one of the Bridge Commander cutscenes?

For 3, only 25 seconds are used.

For 4, though a negative review and/or comment can cause loss of revenue to a publisher, the point of this item is whether the work can act as a substitute for the original work. 25 seconds from the original film hardly constitutes as such.
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The bolded part is relevant here. You are clearly analyzing the case of Mr. Poe vs. Dante Lionheart. As such, reference to the disputed sequence is very relevant.

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Oh, look what I found in my inbox:
Dear Wayne,

In accordance with the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, we've completed
processing your counter-notification dated 4/10/07 regarding your video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql5IeSDGUsI

This content has been restored and your account has been reactivated.

Sincerely,

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THAT'S RIGHT, LITTLE BITCH! YOU FUCKING LOST!
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Lord Poe wrote:Oh, look what I found in my inbox:
Dear Wayne,

In accordance with the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, we've completed
processing your counter-notification dated 4/10/07 regarding your video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql5IeSDGUsI

This content has been restored and your account has been reactivated.

Sincerely,

Heather
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THAT'S RIGHT, LITTLE BITCH! YOU FUCKING LOST!
Ouch. I guess all those claims of "Youtube agrees with me!" just went down the shitter. I wonder how long before he reverses his "alliance" with Youtube and Activision and starts claiming they are working for Wayne?
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Lord Poe wrote:Oh, look what I found in my inbox:
Dear Wayne,

In accordance with the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, we've completed
processing your counter-notification dated 4/10/07 regarding your video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql5IeSDGUsI

This content has been restored and your account has been reactivated.

Sincerely,

Heather
The YouTube Team

THAT'S RIGHT, LITTLE BITCH! YOU FUCKING LOST!
As it should be. Congrats Wayne.
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Vohu Manah,

Your copyright video is currently not up on YouTube.
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