Atheism and miracles?

[Darth Wong]

Hmmm..I wonder if the "threat" could be to their sense of masculinity? Or maybe it's the social thing again, as in "Oh no...this is the kind of behaviour thats considered insulting, and I'm watching it making me vulnerable to being accused to like it". Do you get what I mean? It's possible that kind of subconscious reaction is happening.

I notice that you completely ignore the possibility that it may be biological in nature, as opposed to a learned social behaviour. Males are highly competitive creatures as a result of millions of years of evolution, and while I understand that gays go to great lengths to convince themselves that gays fill some evolutionary purpose rather than merely being a side-effect of random genetic diversity, it is entirely possible that there is actually a biological basis for aversion to homosexual sex. Certainly, if one can argue that you are born gay, then there is no reason why one can't argue that you are born anti-gay. Especially if people who consciously condone homosexuality still experience a negative brain-level reaction.

[Singular Intellect]

There was a study performed by some researchers at Brown University a year or two ago where participants were shown erotica, including gay erotica, and their responses were monitored with a functional MRI. The result was pretty interesting. When the men were shown erotica on a monitor, the appetite centers of the brain lit up like a Christmas tree. When shown gay erotica, the brain's threat response centers lit up. Even a few of the researchers, who considered themselves indifferent to homosexuality, found that they reacted in the same way. So there may actually be a biological basis for what straight men feel toward homosexuality.

That's really quite interesting.

I wonder if this is a subconcious response to the fact it's far more likely a male (or group of them) can be capable of raping another male, but a female (or even a group) raping a male really isn't all as likely. Hence, the perception of the imagery being considered a threat.

[Singular Intellect]

Hmmm..I wonder if the "threat" could be to their sense of masculinity? Or maybe it's the social thing again, as in "Oh no...this is the kind of behaviour thats considered insulting, and I'm watching it making me vulnerable to being accused to like it". Do you get what I mean? It's possible that kind of subconscious reaction is happening.

I highly doubt it, in my case anyhow. I have no qualms about joking around the issue with male friends or interacting with other males I know to be gay. Who fucks who and how in the privacy of their personal lives doesn't concern me in the slightest. Nevertheless the concept of male on male action still grosses me out.

My only explanation is personal taste, and I didn't chose that.

[Justforfun000]

I notice that you completely ignore the possibility that it may be biological in nature, as opposed to a learned social behaviour.

I wasn't trying to be comprehensive, I was just speculating. I'm only minimally familiar with biology in any serious depth, so I would have been talking out of my ass to try and suggest how it would arise from genes or what have you. I just figured if I'm not repulsed by the opposite situation, then maybe it's because I was never brought up to find it repulsive whereas to most people gay sex was presented in that light.

Males are highly competitive creatures as a result of millions of years of evolution, and while I understand that gays go to great lengths to convince themselves that gays fill some evolutionary purpose rather than merely being a side-effect of random genetic diversity, it is entirely possible that there is actually a biological basis for aversion to homosexual sex.

Funny you say that. I never thought, or cared for that matter, of trying to find a "purpose" for being gay. In fact I'm dealing with enough angst just trying to accept the possibility that there is no purpose to ANYTHING in life. Without a spiritual side of things that actually predicates some form of immortality, each individual life is ultimately worthless since they would return to nothingness.

Maybe there is a biological basis for aversion, but I would personally think it less likely based on the growing number of people that do not have a problem with it, and this is increasingly more the case with younger people that tend have less prejudicial ideas instilled in them these days. Of course one could argue based on the study mentioned above that dep down they still DO have aversion but it's just not amplified to a ridiculous degree by societal stigmatization.

Certainly, if one can argue that you are born gay, then there is no reason why one can't argue that you are born anti-gay. Especially if people who consciously condone homosexuality still experience a negative brain-level reaction.

In fact you could even make this a stronger case by comparing animals that shun their own kind when they are too "different" from them. There are many cases of birds shunning fellow flock members that were born albino for example.

[Justforfun000]

I highly doubt it, in my case anyhow. I have no qualms about joking around the issue with male friends or interacting with other males I know to be gay. Who fucks who and how in the privacy of their personal lives doesn't concern me in the slightest. Nevertheless the concept of male on male action still grosses me out.

Well that's good. As I've always said to many straight friends, it's a good thing not everyone was gay because we still need people like you to make more of us.