Interesting Moral Conundrum
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Interesting Moral Conundrum
Recently, I read in the news that a woman from Tennessee had been caught in my state on the run from the law. Now, the "interesting" thing about this story was that she had been captured with her sixteen year old lover, who she had taken with her. Now this had gotten me to thinking, especially in today's society where it is easy to meet somebody online for not-so-wholesome purposes. Not that the above story has too much of a relationship to today's question, it just makes an interesting lead-in, and this sort of situation probably goes on more often then it used to.
Today's scenario: Imagine you and a good friend were rooming together in college. You seem to notice that your friend spends an awful lot of time online, and it has nothing to do with research, porn, or SD.net. When you get around to asking him about it, he admits to you that he's involved in an online relationship. Now here's the kicker. His online girlfriend is only 14 years old. He's your age (I could put in any age, but it won't change the fact that he's of consenting age and she isn't.) He claims they love each other, and plan to meet during the summer. And yes, he knows just how old she is. He also says she knows how old he is too.
Now the question becomes: What do you do now?
Today's scenario: Imagine you and a good friend were rooming together in college. You seem to notice that your friend spends an awful lot of time online, and it has nothing to do with research, porn, or SD.net. When you get around to asking him about it, he admits to you that he's involved in an online relationship. Now here's the kicker. His online girlfriend is only 14 years old. He's your age (I could put in any age, but it won't change the fact that he's of consenting age and she isn't.) He claims they love each other, and plan to meet during the summer. And yes, he knows just how old she is. He also says she knows how old he is too.
Now the question becomes: What do you do now?
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I'm 21. That makes him a full on pedophile. Lock him up.
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Remind him that they right about situations like this in the dating hand book, something about a ten-foot pole? Then shake my head, go out get drunk, reveal to our entire circle how he is a cradle-robber and give him endless abuse over the matter to his last dying day. And yes I am beign serious, I am not everyone's father you know.
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Tell him that if it was your daughter, you'd kill him. Then ask him if he knows whether the girl's father carries a gun.
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Wong's fatherly attitude frightens me.
Bad enough my girlfriend's a tad younger (almost 2 years, I'm not that wierd) and her dad once swung bats for a living.
Scary.
Bad enough my girlfriend's a tad younger (almost 2 years, I'm not that wierd) and her dad once swung bats for a living.
Scary.
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I'd try to talk him out of it. If that failed, I'd call the girls dad and let him decide what to do with the fucker.
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But as far as board culture in general, I do think that young male overaggression is a contributing factor to the general atmosphere of hostility. It's not SOS and the Mess throwing hand grenades all over the forum- Red
But as far as board culture in general, I do think that young male overaggression is a contributing factor to the general atmosphere of hostility. It's not SOS and the Mess throwing hand grenades all over the forum- Red
This is not an enigma at all. He's a damn pedophile. If the law won't work then I guarantee a visit from dear old dad would. It also applies equally to both sexes here. That woman who was caught should be hauled up. Does anyone remember a few years back about that 30+ year old female teacher having sex with a 14 year old student? I seem to remember she got pregnant out of the deal but can't remember if she had an abortion or if the baby was conceived.
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Are we assuming here he plans to have sex with the child?
Because I have a blind spot when it comes to my friends, I'd try and persuade hime he's sick, and tell all our friends of course.
Because I have a blind spot when it comes to my friends, I'd try and persuade hime he's sick, and tell all our friends of course.
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Her name was Laturno or something like that, if I'm thinking of the same one you are. She apperently got preganent twice with the kid, once when she got into trouble with it and again when she got out on parole. Memory is a little hazy but I'm pretty sure it was something like that.XPViking wrote:This is not an enigma at all. He's a damn pedophile. If the law won't work then I guarantee a visit from dear old dad would. It also applies equally to both sexes here. That woman who was caught should be hauled up. Does anyone remember a few years back about that 30+ year old female teacher having sex with a 14 year old student? I seem to remember she got pregnant out of the deal but can't remember if she had an abortion or if the baby was conceived.
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But as far as board culture in general, I do think that young male overaggression is a contributing factor to the general atmosphere of hostility. It's not SOS and the Mess throwing hand grenades all over the forum- Red
But as far as board culture in general, I do think that young male overaggression is a contributing factor to the general atmosphere of hostility. It's not SOS and the Mess throwing hand grenades all over the forum- Red
This roommate has some serious sex issues. Odds are that he was abused as a child. I'll tell him to cut it out and advise him to get some counseling. If possible, I would also attempt to contact the girl's parents and see if they know what she's doing on-line. (Heck, it would probably be worthwhile to check and see if he's really talking up a 14-year-old girl on-line or a fraud.)
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Tell him to go for it.
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Re: Interesting Moral Conundrum
as I'm 17, it's iffy.GrandMasterTerwynn wrote:Recently, I read in the news that a woman from Tennessee had been caught in my state on the run from the law. Now, the "interesting" thing about this story was that she had been captured with her sixteen year old lover, who she had taken with her. Now this had gotten me to thinking, especially in today's society where it is easy to meet somebody online for not-so-wholesome purposes. Not that the above story has too much of a relationship to today's question, it just makes an interesting lead-in, and this sort of situation probably goes on more often then it used to.
Today's scenario: Imagine you and a good friend were rooming together in college. You seem to notice that your friend spends an awful lot of time online, and it has nothing to do with research, porn, or SD.net. When you get around to asking him about it, he admits to you that he's involved in an online relationship. Now here's the kicker. His online girlfriend is only 14 years old. He's your age (I could put in any age, but it won't change the fact that he's of consenting age and she isn't.) He claims they love each other, and plan to meet during the summer. And yes, he knows just how old she is. He also says she knows how old he is too.
Now the question becomes: What do you do now?
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Tell him not to have sex with her that summer, but wait till next summer. If the relationship can last a year in a half, it's more serious than some high school fling (which is what the girl would be having.)
Also, find out when he learned how old she was. Did he fall in love with her, then find out she was 14?
Also, find out when he learned how old she was. Did he fall in love with her, then find out she was 14?
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Say go for it. might be a little odd seeing my friend date a freshmen being a senior and all, but i'd have no real problem, so long as they keep it clean.
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Well, what's the MAX age difference between two people who want to become lovers? Or just BF and GF?
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If someone was over 18 and talking to someone that young, then he's a pedophile. Since I'm about 15, I would oppose it anyway, since I think a high schooler is to young for online dating. I would convince him to stop, since you did not know this girl, and there are plenty ofn other women out there that he knows. A one-year age difference isn't mnuch to me, but it's a bit risky dating online at that age. The woman might by lying saying she's 14, and might be older, and trying to take advantage of others.
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Dad is probably absent, which is why the girl is looking for affection from random weirdos online. Anyway, a healthy dose of ridicule would work well here. Have your friends over, then tell them about the whole deal right in front of the guy. LOL
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Re: Interesting Moral Conundrum
If my buddy is not getting laid in college and has to resort to an online relationship with someone who's jailbait, he needs serious help. Something has to be pretty wrong if he ain't getting laid and he's hitting up a minor when he's in college where the babes are hot and easy. I will be smacking some sense into my misguided buddy and then I'll be dragging him out to a club or party where he can get drunk and laid so he can forget about his jailbait online girl. If that doesn't work he's in for some serious public humiliation, and I'll be looking for a new friend since this guy's an incompetant impotent dork.GrandMasterTerwynn wrote:Today's scenario: Imagine you and a good friend were rooming together in college. You seem to notice that your friend spends an awful lot of time online, and it has nothing to do with research, porn, or SD.net. When you get around to asking him about it, he admits to you that he's involved in an online relationship. Now here's the kicker. His online girlfriend is only 14 years old. He's your age (I could put in any age, but it won't change the fact that he's of consenting age and she isn't.) He claims they love each other, and plan to meet during the summer. And yes, he knows just how old she is. He also says she knows how old he is too.
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