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Draka comparsion

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How does the Final society Draka Compare to other supesoldiers, like the Space Marines of Warhammer 40k and the halo Spartan IIs.

There was Chart at Spacebattles which did seem to place above both Space marine and Spartans IIs.
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They'd effortlessly slaughter any 40K ground force, without so much as breaking a sweat. Sterling's said that their personal weapons are conceived as being kilotonne range antimatter devices.

EDIT: On the flip side, to my knowledge, they've nothing impressive by space opera standards in space. Which means the pleasing prospect of daleks, the Imperium of Man, and other sundry villains kicking their asses humiliatingly remains.
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Yes, the Draka are scary on the ground. We can, however obliterate them in space as Necronlord said, or we can amuse ourselves with the image of the ubermen being enslaved by the powers of an alpha plus psyker and slaughtering each other at his command.
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Infantry Force Org Chart...
We have an overall and a ground combat one, so why not an infantry/infantry equivalent one? Of course, I need suggestions for changing it and such. Only published and nonpublished universe that have documented abilities are allowed.

NOTE 1: This is strictly based on demonstrated infantry capabilities.
NOTE 2: Unique characters do not apply to this chart.

A) Hyperion Future Humans, Hyperion Machine UI, Culture, Perry Rhodan, (Xeelee?)
B) Pax, Orion's Arm (later in timeline), Conjoiner ground forces, Late Forever War
C) Ogreverse, FORCE: Ground, Interstellar Commonwealth Naval Infantry, ACS, 5thI, Trollverse soldiers, (Drakon-era Draka?)
D) Book MI, Armor (Armor), Schlock Mercenary, Warhammer 40K Space Marines/Equivalent, Honorverse, X-Com (lategame), (Daleks?)
E) Serjeants (whatever they were called in that Hamilton book with the Edenists, I can't remember its name), Skins, Tin Men (Air Battle Force), Covenant (Elites with Brute Support), X-Com aliens, military Yautja, Final War-era Draka, Kull Warriors
F) Umibozou/GiTS special forces, Ghost in the Shell infantry (inferred), WH40k IG/Equivalent, Weapons of Choice infantry, Clonetroopers, Covenant (mixed forces), Stormtroopers (SW), Project Snowblind, Colonial Marines, F.E.A.R Replicas, Combine
G) Freehold Military Forces (all but UN), Falkenburg's Legions, X-Com soldiers (early game), MACOs, TOS Red Shirts (without carnivorous plants or exploding rocks), UNSC marines
H) Modern special forces, Modern US Military, Covenant (Grunts Only)
I) 1942 Draka, Race
J) Movie MI
K) Jaffa, TNG Red Shirts
L) TOS Red Shirts (on planets with dangerous native flora or fauna)
M) Signs Aliens

Key:
A-Most likely capable of annihilating just about any type of infantry not in this rank. No matter what. Top tier. Generally carrying weapons out of place in infantry combat.
B-Capable of defeating almost any conventional force arrayed due to superiority in yields, stealth, and defense. Tend to be carrying man-portable nuclear/nuclear equivalent weapons.
C-Highly advanced forces not threatened by anything below D level. Tend to be armed with equivalent to low-yield nuclear weaponry and armored much better than most modern MBTs
D-Supersoldiers or soldiers with highly advanced equipment. Tend to have armor superior to equivalent to modern tanks, carrying weapons again, equivalent or superior to modern tank guns.
E-Heavy troopers armored equivalently to modern LAVs and armed almost as well. Tin Men are an anomaly because although they are armored as well as 'D' and tend to carry equivalent weapons, they can be worn down by massed small arms fire and are very few in number.
F-Soldiers superior to modern ones, although the distinction is no longer orders of magnitude.
G-Soldiers somewhat superior to modern ones.
H-Modern day infantry.
I-Threat to modern day forces one-on-one, although the modern soldier tends to win most of the time.
J-Minor threat. You'd need to outnumber the modern soldiers a bunch to win.
K-Easily defeatable by modern infantry.
L-Easily defeatable by modern armed civilians
M-Easily defeatable by modern weather patterns.

Yeah, was the Chart, I have been looking for it for a while, a Old chart from Spacebattles, comparing the various infantry.
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Post by Chris OFarrell »

Stop. Right there.

These charts never ever work. They are horribly speculative and generally lack any kind of context, or they get SO frigen complex with sub sub sub sub classifications and relationships that trying to understand them drives you insane.

Burn it.
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Post by Connor MacLeod »

*snicker* I remember h ow alot of Sbers tend to masturbate to those sorts of Force charts. As Chris says, they never work. Force charts are analysis for lazy people.

if you want to know what a universe is capable of, do the damn research yourself.
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There is a degree of simplistic comparative value in that chart I'd say; its a good way of summarising approximate relative levels.

Note the approximate word though. I agree its limited and broad brush in approach.
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There is a degree of simplistic comparative value in that chart I'd say; its a good way of summarising approximate relative levels.

Note the approximate word though. I agree its limited and broad brush in approach.
That was I meant, I saw this a broad and simplistic comparsion chart, it was good approximate approach to these power levels.
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