Why Shep hates anime....

Darth Yoshi · Post by **Darth Yoshi** » 2003-01-06 10:21pm

Icehawk wrote:
What's more disturbing than Sailor Moon, are the guys who LIKE Sailor Moon.
The show itself is stupid and boring as hell, but I like the girls in it on a purely sexual basis.

Indeed. Although that doesn't say much; it's very difficult to draw anime characters to be repulsive.

Yogi · Post by **Yogi** » 2003-01-06 10:32pm

Darth Yoshi wrote:Indeed. Although that doesn't say much; it's very difficult to draw anime characters to be repulsive.

There's Heatguy-J. That one has a completely ugly cast.

Exonerate · Post by **Exonerate** » 2003-01-06 10:47pm

Anybody seen Noir? I saw the first few minutes, and it seemed quite good. AFAIK, its about a female assassin and her teaching another 13 year old girl to become one...

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-01-06 10:52pm

Exonerate wrote:Anybody seen Noir? I saw the first few minutes, and it seemed quite good. AFAIK, its about a female assassin and her teaching another 13 year old girl to become one...

I've got the first episode on the January Newtype USA promotional DVD. Haven't watched the actual episode yet, but it has a great opening theme.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-01-06 10:54pm

Exonerate wrote:Anybody seen Noir? I saw the first few minutes, and it seemed quite good. AFAIK, its about a female assassin and her teaching another 13 year old girl to become one...

Wow, what an obvious rip off of Leon.

Yogi · Post by **Yogi** » 2003-01-06 11:22pm

MKSheppard wrote:Wow, what an obvious rip off of Leon.

That's before it gets weird (I've seen all of it on fansub).

Most anime gets weird sooner or later. Indeed, a normal and blase show with predictable elements is hardly a hallmark of excellence (unless you have TRULY masterful slice of life anime like Only Yesterday or Azumanga Daioh, neither of which would be reccomended to Shep since it requires knowledge of Japanese culture I'm sure he does NOT have.) It begins "normal", and indeed as a parallel to an existing movie. However, after a few episodes it begins to take off in an entirely new direction.

There's Chloe and Altena (Chloe's my avatar), Intocabille, the orginization Soldats, the secret of Noir, death by fork, and thinly veiled lesbianism (NOT between Mirelle and Kirika). In other words, it is not even close to Leon.

Icehawk · Post by **Icehawk** » 2003-01-06 11:23pm

Wow, what an obvious rip off of Leon.

Maybe you should look into what the actual plot is instead of making such a blind assumption based off such a minor amount of information...

This is a review and summary of the series. Read it and see if its anything like what you were thinking.

http://www.animeacademy.com/library/noir/noir.html

Yogi · Post by **Yogi** » 2003-01-06 11:34pm

*DOH* How could I have forgotten...

The First Kenshin OVAs!!! If you like historical drama, then this would be perfect. The TV series may not be appropriate, but the OVAs are sutably dark and depressing.

Note, they are on sale in America under the name "Samurai X:Trust" and "Samurai X:Betrayal"

Edit: If you try to find it from . . . unofficial . . . sources, remember that it's the FIRST OVA series, Tsuiokuhen. It has four episodes. Do NOT make the mistake of buying the seond series, Seisouhen, which has two episodes. THAT series is utter crap.

SWPIGWANG · Post by **SWPIGWANG** » 2003-01-07 01:22am

You know, for a cynic, the perfect anime would be...... EXCEL SAGA

FEAR THE POWER OF ACROSS!!!!!!!

shep, just go download a ep. now and you won't be disappointed.

Get ep3 for starters.

*ties shep to a chair and forces him to watch kodomo no omocha

*

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2003-01-07 01:24am

SWPIGWANG wrote:You know, for a cynic, the perfect anime would be...... EXCEL SAGA

FEAR THE POWER OF ACROSS!!!!!!!

shep, just go download a ep. now and you won't be disappointed. Get ep3 for starters.

I have all 3 DVDs

SPOILER

SPOILER

SPOILER

I love how Illpalazallo shot Excel in the head when she went on her
whiny brat spree in Ep 1

Yogi · Post by **Yogi** » 2003-01-07 01:28am

MKSheppard wrote: SPOILER

SPOILER

SPOILER

I love how Illpalazallo shot Excel in the head when she went on her
whiny brat spree in Ep 1

**MORE SPOILER**
It's not the only time. He shoots her again in the series, though that time it's for real (Will of the Universe isn't around to save her, she's being held captive and by a being that can defeat both Nabeshin, Pedro, and Pedro's son.)

Don't diss Pedro. He later acends to semi-omnipotent power.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-01-07 02:13am

I never would have expected that Shep likes Excel Saga. I'm quite surprised.

While it does have mecha in it (technically called an Aestivalis), Martian Successor Nadesico is one I'd recommend: solely for the fact that it's often very funny.

While the Aestivalises are used frequently, for most of the time they aren't taken very seriously. And I should warn you that there is an episode where they fight tanks, but it's not worth having a fit/rant over.

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2003-01-07 02:37am

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:I never would have expected that Shep likes Excel Saga. I'm quite surprised.

While it does have mecha in it (technically called an Aestivalis), Martian Successor Nadesico is one I'd recommend: solely for the fact that it's often very funny.

While the Aestivalises are used frequently, for most of the time they aren't taken very seriously. And I should warn you that there is an episode where they fight tanks, but it's not worth having a fit/rant over.

But they're Tiger Is ! (Guess I know more anime than I thought!)

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2003-01-07 03:03am

OK a FUCKING GOOD anime movie was the first anime movie I saw, at age 7, still got the VHS tape, still kicks ass, Macross: Do you remember love?

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-01-07 03:10am

One note about Nadesico:

Just remember to watch it in Japanese with subtitles, or you'll miss out on at least half of the dialogue's original meaning, as well at it's charm. It's an ADV dub, so what can I say.

HDS: Of course DYRL? was great - It was Macross.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-01-07 03:19am

My First Five Animes in order I saw them

1. Mach, GO, GO, GO <Speed Racer>
2. Battle for the planets <G-Force>
3. Space Cruiser Yamoto <Starblazers>
4. Pirate Harlock
5. Macross <Ok all of Robotech>

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-01-07 03:26am

Anime is plural and singular.

And it's Captain Harlock, silly Bear.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-01-07 03:30am

I was NINE when I saw it!

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-01-07 03:34am

And you've never heard of it since?

I'm just really anal when it comes to stuff like that, so don't take it too personally.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2003-01-07 03:37am

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:I'm just really anal when it comes to stuff like that, so don't take it too personally.

Are those the footsteps of Darth Wong I hear approaching? Someone must have said the magic word

Post by **Dalton** » 2003-01-07 03:42am

His Divine Shadow wrote:Are those the footsteps of Darth Wong I hear approaching? Someone must have said the magic word

shutupshutupshutup!!!

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2003-01-07 03:43am

Argh! "Anal" has more than just that one single meaning!!

Shit, you can't say anything around here without someone making it sound dirty...

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2003-01-07 04:20am

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Argh! "Anal" has more than just that one single meaning!!

Shit, you can't say anything around here without someone making it sound dirty...

Well we all have to have our fun somehow

Solid Snake · Post by **Solid Snake** » 2003-01-07 11:59am

Dude, you guys should stop ripping on Shep. He dosnt like anamie!!! Uh oh! We better beat the fuck out of him with a baseball bat wrapped in barbed wire! No better then rabid trekkies..

Yogi · Post by **Yogi** » 2003-01-07 01:13pm

SolidSnake wrote:Dude, you guys should stop ripping on Shep. He dosnt like anamie!!! Uh oh! We better beat the fuck out of him with a baseball bat wrapped in barbed wire! No better then rabid trekkies..

The point is that we beleive that he is basing his dislike on a limited amount of data. Anime comprises such a large field of various works, that covering it all in a blanket statement of "I don't like it" is rather extreme. This is furthur compounded with the rather distorted view of Anime here, as the general impressions is generally of Dragonball Z, Sailor Moon, Pokemon, or Akira, none of which I would reccomend as examples of high quality anime (yep, I just bashed Akira.) Hopefully, reccomended samples from people more knowledgable about the subject than television executives will give him a better view on Anime in general.