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I wrote a paper on the evolution of the various script drafts for Star Wars in my final year, so I'm glad to see the notation on Deak's role (and identification in a particular production painting) in the second draft of the screenplay. Hope they add more stuff like that.
Also awesome to see more images and information that's never been revealed before.
Also awesome to see more images and information that's never been revealed before.
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Interesting tidbits:
- The droids we see in the "capture" scene are Imperial in nature. I always assumed they were Rebel.
- Stormtrooper armor has a back-mounted power pack along with the "pressurized gas system" (the breathable air I'm guessing.) Guess those power cells mentioned on the legs aren't the only power source.
It does make me wonder what parts of the armor are "powered" - the comlinks and visual enhancements probably. The "energy sinks" imply some sort of active energy-dissipation system (I'll go over that in a bit.)
- E-11's top "scope" thingy is a range-finding sight.
- another mention of the belt mounted "energy sinks". It IS worth noting that the ANH novelization describes some of the storm troopers as having "shielding" of some sortt on the armor. It's also worth noting that the Mandalorian body armor that Jango and Boba wore had some sort of "active" energy dissipation system to it (from the Visual dictionaries) and we know from that same source (and others) that Clone armor was inspired by Mandalorian (Fett had an input into the armor too). I'm betting the "temperature control" body glove would have some part in that too (if nothing else, it would likely prevent the solid plates from burning the wearer.)
If that were the case, then those belt packs might make sense in that it would allow a trooper to "dispose" and "replace" them more easily when they're used up or overwhelmed.
- Vader's got "augmented strength" and it allows him to easily lift/throw a 79 kg man one-handed.
- The "ring" effect of a stun burst is labeled as a "photonic energy byproduct", which seems to suggest that there is an photonic/masless element to the weapon. It could give credence to the ICS definition of blasters/lasers, although its unlikely many hand weapons we see in the movies ARE firing massless beams (think garbage compactor.)
- stun bolts have a larger "aperture" than the "standard explosive bolts"
Blaster bolts DO exhibit explosive properties and the damage mechanism would make sense, but more often than not they do not blow large holes in people (they seem to be more heavily thermal in most cases, or that have a thermal AND explosive setting, anyohw.)
- stun bursts it would seem need to be "modified" or attuned to specific neurological systems for it to work.
- Ugh. 501st trooper mentioned as stunning Leia. Ugh.
- The "hold your fire" scene with Lt Hija is interesting. It mentions "gunnery sensor computers", which corresponds to the mention of "computerized energy batteries" in the novelization.
- The little rotating "gun thingy" we see tracking the escape pod is identified as a "ranging/targeting" laser, linked to the heavy weapons emplacements. I do find it odd, ,because I always assumed it was a gun itself (a light defense weapon.) Of course, B-wing laser cannons can act as targeting sensors on low-output settings, so its also possible the laser could double as a point defense weapon (Anyone remember when Stewie argued the targeting radar on an ISD vaporized the TESB asteroids? )
IIRC "eletro telescopes" were implied to have long ranges in one of the essential guides. I'll have to double check.
- Artoo and Threepio are looking out at the Devatsator from a viewscreen that is providing an "aft" holocam image. I always assumed it was a window, myself, but this may prove to be an interesting technological capability in other cases.
- The droids we see in the "capture" scene are Imperial in nature. I always assumed they were Rebel.
- Stormtrooper armor has a back-mounted power pack along with the "pressurized gas system" (the breathable air I'm guessing.) Guess those power cells mentioned on the legs aren't the only power source.
It does make me wonder what parts of the armor are "powered" - the comlinks and visual enhancements probably. The "energy sinks" imply some sort of active energy-dissipation system (I'll go over that in a bit.)
- E-11's top "scope" thingy is a range-finding sight.
- another mention of the belt mounted "energy sinks". It IS worth noting that the ANH novelization describes some of the storm troopers as having "shielding" of some sortt on the armor. It's also worth noting that the Mandalorian body armor that Jango and Boba wore had some sort of "active" energy dissipation system to it (from the Visual dictionaries) and we know from that same source (and others) that Clone armor was inspired by Mandalorian (Fett had an input into the armor too). I'm betting the "temperature control" body glove would have some part in that too (if nothing else, it would likely prevent the solid plates from burning the wearer.)
If that were the case, then those belt packs might make sense in that it would allow a trooper to "dispose" and "replace" them more easily when they're used up or overwhelmed.
- Vader's got "augmented strength" and it allows him to easily lift/throw a 79 kg man one-handed.
- The "ring" effect of a stun burst is labeled as a "photonic energy byproduct", which seems to suggest that there is an photonic/masless element to the weapon. It could give credence to the ICS definition of blasters/lasers, although its unlikely many hand weapons we see in the movies ARE firing massless beams (think garbage compactor.)
- stun bolts have a larger "aperture" than the "standard explosive bolts"
Blaster bolts DO exhibit explosive properties and the damage mechanism would make sense, but more often than not they do not blow large holes in people (they seem to be more heavily thermal in most cases, or that have a thermal AND explosive setting, anyohw.)
- stun bursts it would seem need to be "modified" or attuned to specific neurological systems for it to work.
- Ugh. 501st trooper mentioned as stunning Leia. Ugh.
- The "hold your fire" scene with Lt Hija is interesting. It mentions "gunnery sensor computers", which corresponds to the mention of "computerized energy batteries" in the novelization.
- The little rotating "gun thingy" we see tracking the escape pod is identified as a "ranging/targeting" laser, linked to the heavy weapons emplacements. I do find it odd, ,because I always assumed it was a gun itself (a light defense weapon.) Of course, B-wing laser cannons can act as targeting sensors on low-output settings, so its also possible the laser could double as a point defense weapon (Anyone remember when Stewie argued the targeting radar on an ISD vaporized the TESB asteroids? )
IIRC "eletro telescopes" were implied to have long ranges in one of the essential guides. I'll have to double check.
- Artoo and Threepio are looking out at the Devatsator from a viewscreen that is providing an "aft" holocam image. I always assumed it was a window, myself, but this may prove to be an interesting technological capability in other cases.
Makes sense that they're looking at a viewscreen. There's no windows on the model apart from a possible rectangular one on the side, and nothing in the back, which would be the only place to see the Devastator.
Why the 'ugh' for the 501st? They've been canonically placed in ANH and ESB ever since Battlefront II came out and the OS updated their 'appearance' section.
Why the 'ugh' for the 501st? They've been canonically placed in ANH and ESB ever since Battlefront II came out and the OS updated their 'appearance' section.
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Oh, that feature is lovely.
Will there be Visual Guides for EV and EVI?
Will there be Visual Guides for EV and EVI?
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Why did they have to identify the Imperials on the Devastator as a Captain and a Leutenant? Niether of them wear the olive-green officer uniforms, which implys they are both non-commissioned officers or enlisted. Unless they are from another branch (non-Navy) that employs black officer uniforms (like the Stormtroopers).
Huh, so that's why R2's eye changes color?
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Could they be Imperial Gunnery officers? I remember it being mentioned as a discrete part of the Imperial Navy, and includes the men with the all-enclosing black helmets seen manning the DS main weaponry...The Original Nex wrote:Why did they have to identify the Imperials on the Devastator as a Captain and a Leutenant? Niether of them wear the olive-green officer uniforms, which implys they are both non-commissioned officers or enlisted. Unless they are from another branch (non-Navy) that employs black officer uniforms (like the Stormtroopers).
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Why then would the Captain also wear this uniform?Spearfish wrote:Could they be Imperial Gunnery officers? I remember it being mentioned as a discrete part of the Imperial Navy, and includes the men with the all-enclosing black helmets seen manning the DS main weaponry...The Original Nex wrote:Why did they have to identify the Imperials on the Devastator as a Captain and a Leutenant? Niether of them wear the olive-green officer uniforms, which implys they are both non-commissioned officers or enlisted. Unless they are from another branch (non-Navy) that employs black officer uniforms (like the Stormtroopers).
He isn't the ISD's captain? Captain is a naval rank, equivalent to an Army Colonel. as well as the job title of a ship's Commanding Officer. This gun emplacement on the ISD could have a captain in charge of it, but he wouldn't be The Captain.The Original Nex wrote:Why then would the Captain also wear this uniform?Spearfish wrote:Could they be Imperial Gunnery officers? I remember it being mentioned as a discrete part of the Imperial Navy, and includes the men with the all-enclosing black helmets seen manning the DS main weaponry...The Original Nex wrote:Why did they have to identify the Imperials on the Devastator as a Captain and a Leutenant? Niether of them wear the olive-green officer uniforms, which implys they are both non-commissioned officers or enlisted. Unless they are from another branch (non-Navy) that employs black officer uniforms (like the Stormtroopers).
He is probably a Gunnery Corps captain; much the same as the way that some British battleships in the past had a turret or two crewed by men from the Royal Marines Light Aritllery (each turret would have had a captain in command - in this case equivalent to an Army captain, due to the different rank structure.)
Frankly, having the ship's CO stood in a gun turret near the hanger during a boarding op strikes me as phenomenally stupid. He belongs on the Bridge or in whatever equivalent an ISD has to an Ops Room. Besides, on a warship with a crew of what, ~37,000, there's going to be a few other officers of equivalent rank to (but suboordinate to) the CO, probably one in command of each major department, such as engineering.
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Quiet you!General Schatten wrote:Ha! A new argument against the Trekkies. R2's shell is supposed to be made of durasteel which is strengthened with neutronium, since the Enterprise' phasers didn't work on neutronium we can conclude R2 is immune to phasers!
I note that the plans are composed of several blueprints. That's a nifty way of rationalising the various origin stories for the blueprints
The obvious answer is that he's a stormtrooper captain (remember the clone-manned guns in RotS?) from Vader's beloved 501st. Or that Vader hates poor Wermis (Who I think has also been established for quite some time, too. I think he may be a Marvel character.) so much that he brought in another captain just to make his life difficult.
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Again, only one new scene in the update: Vader Confronts the Princess.
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