Seaview v. Red October
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Patrick Degan
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Seaview v. Red October
Imagine that matchup, if you will...
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Patrick Degan
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Defining the forces:
On the Russian side, the nuclear ballistic missile submarine Red October, the sixth and last Typhoon-class boat, measuring over 180 metres in length. It's hull holds at least two pressure vessels containing the two nuclear reactors and all crew accomodation and weapons. Main armament: 24 SS-N-6 SLBM's carrying three warheads apiece for a total nuclear strike capability of 36 megatons. Defensive armament consists of eight forward-firing 24in. torpedo tubes. Her main advantage is a magnetic caterpillar drive enabling silent running at high speeds underwater in addition to her main screw-based engines.
The Red October's commander, Captain First-Rank Marko Ramius, a 25 year veteran of the Soviet submarine service; known in the Red Fleet as the "Vilnius Schoolmaster", having educated most of their elite submarine officers and often assigned to test the lead boat of every new submarine class due to his experience, particularly when he brought back an Alfa-class prototype submarine after being heavily damaged in a collision with a whale. Ramius wrote the book on submarine tactics for the Soviet Navy and is familiar with manoeuvering subs in heavy undersea terrain areas such as the subsurface canyon at the bottom of the Atlantic known as "Red Route One".
On the American side, the nuclear testbed submarine SSRN Seaview, roughly the same size as a Polaris submarine, built by the obviously DARPA operated outift known as the "Nelson Institute for Marine Research" (NIMR), headed by the supposedly retired admiral Harriman Nelson. Seaview has a hangar bay to accomodate an independently operable flying sub in addition to its capability to launch diving bells from a central dorsal airlock located in the missile room. Seaview's armaments are nominal, consisting of four Polaris-type SLBMs and four stern torpedo tubes. Seaview's weaponry was upgraded with a powerful laser powered directly from the nuclear reactor in 1974. Seaview's most distinguishing feature is her observation nose connected directly to the overly-spacious control room, located very far forward in the submarine's structure. Seaview is powered by a nuclear reactor of questionable design and reliability, which drives what appear to be twin pumpjets enabling high underwater speeds.
In command of the Seaview, her builder, Admiral Harriman Nelson, a grizzled naval officer and scientist. Nelson at times appears to be mentally unbalanced, but this may be an asset considering how it appears to have enabled him to resist alien mind control so many times where the rest of his crew proved quite vulnerable. Operational direction of the submarine devolves upon the boat's nominal commander, Capt. Lee Crane; a dedicated young officer who seems capable enough but is occasionally subject to bouts of alien mind control and lycanthropy, and his exec, Lt. Cmdr. Chip Morton, who appears to have had most of his personality surgically removed at some undetermined time in the past and is also subject to bouts of control by aliens. Bizzarely, these officers constantly run Seaview with her active sonar banging away at all times, even when Crane orders the boat rigged for silent running. Backing them are Chief Petty Officer Frances Ethelbert Sharkey, a simple soul who's puppy-dog loyal to his insane admiral, Seaman Kowalski, the command crew's main legbreaker who uses enough styling spray to make his hair bulletproof, and Seaman Patterson, a mechanically useful drone. The rest of the crew are cannon-fodder, at times with a life expectancy much poorer even than Enterprise redshirts.
Who would win?
The Red October's commander, Captain First-Rank Marko Ramius, a 25 year veteran of the Soviet submarine service; known in the Red Fleet as the "Vilnius Schoolmaster", having educated most of their elite submarine officers and often assigned to test the lead boat of every new submarine class due to his experience, particularly when he brought back an Alfa-class prototype submarine after being heavily damaged in a collision with a whale. Ramius wrote the book on submarine tactics for the Soviet Navy and is familiar with manoeuvering subs in heavy undersea terrain areas such as the subsurface canyon at the bottom of the Atlantic known as "Red Route One".
On the American side, the nuclear testbed submarine SSRN Seaview, roughly the same size as a Polaris submarine, built by the obviously DARPA operated outift known as the "Nelson Institute for Marine Research" (NIMR), headed by the supposedly retired admiral Harriman Nelson. Seaview has a hangar bay to accomodate an independently operable flying sub in addition to its capability to launch diving bells from a central dorsal airlock located in the missile room. Seaview's armaments are nominal, consisting of four Polaris-type SLBMs and four stern torpedo tubes. Seaview's weaponry was upgraded with a powerful laser powered directly from the nuclear reactor in 1974. Seaview's most distinguishing feature is her observation nose connected directly to the overly-spacious control room, located very far forward in the submarine's structure. Seaview is powered by a nuclear reactor of questionable design and reliability, which drives what appear to be twin pumpjets enabling high underwater speeds.
In command of the Seaview, her builder, Admiral Harriman Nelson, a grizzled naval officer and scientist. Nelson at times appears to be mentally unbalanced, but this may be an asset considering how it appears to have enabled him to resist alien mind control so many times where the rest of his crew proved quite vulnerable. Operational direction of the submarine devolves upon the boat's nominal commander, Capt. Lee Crane; a dedicated young officer who seems capable enough but is occasionally subject to bouts of alien mind control and lycanthropy, and his exec, Lt. Cmdr. Chip Morton, who appears to have had most of his personality surgically removed at some undetermined time in the past and is also subject to bouts of control by aliens. Bizzarely, these officers constantly run Seaview with her active sonar banging away at all times, even when Crane orders the boat rigged for silent running. Backing them are Chief Petty Officer Frances Ethelbert Sharkey, a simple soul who's puppy-dog loyal to his insane admiral, Seaman Kowalski, the command crew's main legbreaker who uses enough styling spray to make his hair bulletproof, and Seaman Patterson, a mechanically useful drone. The rest of the crew are cannon-fodder, at times with a life expectancy much poorer even than Enterprise redshirts.
Who would win?
Thanks I was about to ask
Considering Marko Ramius wrote the book on tatics has both a speed and sound advantage on the Seaview I except it to go along the lines of either
A. Seaview gets insaly lucky lanuches torps at Red October, Ramius evades and sinks her
B. Ramius closes to get hull shots of the Seaview then sinks it with two torps.
Considering Marko Ramius wrote the book on tatics has both a speed and sound advantage on the Seaview I except it to go along the lines of either
A. Seaview gets insaly lucky lanuches torps at Red October, Ramius evades and sinks her
B. Ramius closes to get hull shots of the Seaview then sinks it with two torps.
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ROFL! 
Ahhh it hurts! It hurts!
Ok <deep breathing> considering the mission of the Red Octber ( and all the other Typoon boats) was to go and hide yourself in the northern ice where the US SSNs cant find you, until you are ordered to launch, then the situation would most likely develop like this:
1) Red October puts to sea and proceeds towards her launch point
2) Seaview is ordered to find and sink the Red October, but due to the rash of alien mind control, time travel, spies, ect, and the fact that PASSIVE sonar has NEVER been fitted to the Seaview (!!!!) the russians hear them thousands of yards away and completely aviod detection.
3) Seaview continues pinging around Red October's last known position until a Udaloy, Grisha or a TU-95 Bear fitted for ASW sinks her with a 65 or 53 CM Torp.
4) Red October arrives on station and completes its mission. The U.S is either nuked or Red October goes home to port and everyone has borsht and vodka and lives happily ever after.
CURSE YOU POOP DOG!
Ahhh it hurts! It hurts!
Ok <deep breathing> considering the mission of the Red Octber ( and all the other Typoon boats) was to go and hide yourself in the northern ice where the US SSNs cant find you, until you are ordered to launch, then the situation would most likely develop like this:
1) Red October puts to sea and proceeds towards her launch point
2) Seaview is ordered to find and sink the Red October, but due to the rash of alien mind control, time travel, spies, ect, and the fact that PASSIVE sonar has NEVER been fitted to the Seaview (!!!!) the russians hear them thousands of yards away and completely aviod detection.
3) Seaview continues pinging around Red October's last known position until a Udaloy, Grisha or a TU-95 Bear fitted for ASW sinks her with a 65 or 53 CM Torp.
4) Red October arrives on station and completes its mission. The U.S is either nuked or Red October goes home to port and everyone has borsht and vodka and lives happily ever after.
CURSE YOU POOP DOG!