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Post by **Vympel** » 2007-06-14 02:24am

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Predominantly US Marines or British SAS. At one point you play a "revolutionary".

What? No Russians? Fuck off, I'm not buying it.

Hawkwings · Post by **Hawkwings** » 2007-06-14 02:32am

Looks gorgeous, sounds awesome, but again, no russians? I'm disappointed...

Multiplayer stuff looks really interesting. "Last stand" eh? Cool.

Ritterin Sophia · Post by **Ritterin Sophia** » 2007-06-14 02:45am

Vympel wrote:What? No Russians? Fuck off, I'm not buying it.

I agree with Comrade Vympel.

JLTucker · Post by **JLTucker** » 2007-06-14 03:01am

The game looks stunning. The images at Gamespot are of better quality.

Post by **weemadando** » 2007-06-14 04:38am

Bah! I wanted a Causcaus campaign as Russians!

Then again - maybe they'll be in MP? I wonder if there will be a "car bomber" class in MP...

Brother-Captain Gaius · Post by **Brother-Captain Gaius** » 2007-06-14 05:02am

weemadando wrote:Bah! I wanted a Causcaus campaign as Russians!

Then again - maybe they'll be in MP? I wonder if there will be a "car bomber" class in MP...

According to my PC Gamer (US) article on the game, one of the MP perks will be "martyr" which unsurprisingly turns one into a suicide bomber.

Elaro · Post by **Elaro** » 2007-06-14 03:46pm

Aw man. No Red Army. Although, it does say that we'll travel around the Eastern Bloc. So maybe.

Perhaps if we email our discontent the devs will repent and include a proper Soviet campaign?

Edward Yee · Post by **Edward Yee** » 2007-06-14 04:50pm

Hawkwings wrote:Looks gorgeous, sounds awesome, but again, no russians? I'm disappointed...

Multiplayer stuff looks really interesting. "Last stand" eh? Cool.

Based on details from the IGN version (clarifying what I'd previously heard), though, am I correct in assuming that "Last Stand" means that (I guess unless headshotted) a player will be given a pistol, even if they didn't choose it for equipment, and will die either when hit again or after the last bullet is out?

Medic · Post by **Medic** » 2007-06-14 08:29pm

What is with the Russian fetish?

It seems to me silly not to get the game cause it doesn't appear to have Russians but... okay, I've heard stranger I suppose.
There will be plenty of Russian weapons no doubt, in the hands of whatever OPFOR there is.

Losonti Tokash · Post by **Losonti Tokash** » 2007-06-14 08:46pm

That's...odd. Maybe GameInformer is full of shit but their CoD4 cover story made a point of saying there were missions where you play as Russian loyalists.

Post by **weemadando** » 2007-06-15 08:00am

SPC Brungardt wrote:What is with the Russian fetish?

Get out.

Dartzap · Post by **Dartzap** » 2007-06-15 08:21am

Cool, we finally are getting some British factions in these damns games. It usually always the 101st or other assorted Yank regiments.

Maybe you can change the name to be the 95th Rifles?

Post by **Vympel** » 2007-06-15 09:09am

Losonti Tokash wrote:That's...odd. Maybe GameInformer is full of shit but their CoD4 cover story made a point of saying there were missions where you play as Russian loyalists.

I'd rather say that IGN was full of shit. It's a staple of CoD: US, British, Russian. Period. It's just not right having it any other way.

I don't like the idea of a Russian "civil war" on principle, but stranger things have happened, and as long as I get to use an AN-94 or failing that a trusty AK-74M, I don't care.

Pelranius · Post by **Pelranius** » 2007-06-15 11:11am

According to most of the previews, the Russian leader, who is fermenting trouble in the ME, is some megalomaniac who is clearly a neocon caricature of Putin.

Seriously, what's with all the Russophobia in the FPS games? We've got COD4, Frontlines Fuel of War and Endwar.

Darth Raptor · Post by **Darth Raptor** » 2007-06-15 11:25am

Pelranius wrote:Seriously, what's with all the Russophobia in the FPS games? We've got COD4, Frontlines Fuel of War and Endwar.

Grasping for a credible opponent while trying not to look racist or propagandistic, I imagine.

Medic · Post by **Medic** » 2007-06-16 03:35am

weemadando wrote:
SPC Brungardt wrote:What is with the Russian fetish?
Get out.

I'm sorry, unless you own more Call of Duty games than I do, you get out.

Okay, I can understand the particular fascination with Russians after thinking about it some, but then everyone must realize that the CoD's have always been 'good-guy-centric' and that that basically means any modern CoD wouldn't feature Russians prominently. I surmised that and so shrugged at the loss.

Post by **weemadando** » 2007-06-16 04:16am

I own CoD, CoD:UO (both on steam), CoD2 (boxed for PC), CoD2 (again - this time on steam rather than boxed) and CoD3 for Wii (horrible).

I want a CoD from the bad-guys P.o.V! Insurgency/Russkies would be a great change!

Post by **Vympel** » 2007-06-16 04:23am

SPC Brungardt wrote: Okay, I can understand the particular fascination with Russians after thinking about it some, but then everyone must realize that the CoD's have always been 'good-guy-centric' and that that basically means any modern CoD wouldn't feature Russians prominently. I surmised that and so shrugged at the loss.

You were under the impression that the Russians in CoD were "good guys"? Did you miss the Enemy at the Gates first level?

Kane Starkiller · Post by **Kane Starkiller** » 2007-06-16 11:02am

I wouldn't call it "fascination" but merely the fact that I'm sick and tired of games featuring wars on terror against "Kreplakistan". I want WW3: outright invasion of Russia, China and USA depending on which side you play and fighting on the streets of war ravaged Beijing, Moscow and Washington.

AniThyng · Post by **AniThyng** » 2007-06-16 12:41pm

Kane Starkiller wrote:I wouldn't call it "fascination" but merely the fact that I'm sick and tired of games featuring wars on terror against "Kreplakistan". I want WW3: outright invasion of Russia, China and USA depending on which side you play and fighting on the streets of war ravaged Beijing, Moscow and Washington.

Been there, done that. It was called "Red Alert 2"...

Oh, you meant an FPS?

In which case, I have to agree - but hey, at least it's not World War 2, again.

Medic · Post by **Medic** » 2007-06-16 03:55pm

weemadando wrote:I own CoD, CoD:UO (both on steam), CoD2 (boxed for PC), CoD2 (again - this time on steam rather than boxed) and CoD3 for Wii (horrible).

I got CoD, CoD:UO, CoD2 myself, all boxed. (haven't fucked with 3 as it's console only so that's a glorious maximum of 16 player online support for X360

) Actually though, the 1st one I got was CoD: Finest Hour for PS2 and I actually played this a bit online until I got the PC version and sold it.

Vympel wrote:
SPC Brungardt wrote: Okay, I can understand the particular fascination with Russians after thinking about it some, but then everyone must realize that the CoD's have always been 'good-guy-centric' and that that basically means any modern CoD wouldn't feature Russians prominently. I surmised that and so shrugged at the loss.
You were under the impression that the Russians in CoD were "good guys"? Did you miss the Enemy at the Gates first level?

No I didn't and they are fighting the Nazi's, aren't they? I just get the feel CoD's about good versus evil and necessarily western-centric cause of the core audience.

The_Saint · Post by **The_Saint** » 2007-06-16 10:05pm

AniThyng wrote:Been there, done that. It was called "Red Alert 2"...

Oh, you meant an FPS? In which case, I have to agree - but hey, at least it's not World War 2, again.

Quoted for truth.. When I first saw the CoD4 name i had to groan.. ww2 has been done to deaht.. we're getting the video game version of MASH.. the games last longer than the war.

And we've had enough dicking around with middle east deserts and euro-alliance vs soviet horde... the side's can stay and with a bit of trickory the maps can too but where's the euro-alliance mass invasion of the USA ... ala this

ray245 · Post by **ray245** » 2007-06-16 10:34pm

Hey! Why do you guys ALWAYS forget the pacific theater FPS? How many good games have come out for those? It's always nazis, nazis...Give me Iwo Jima!

Post by **weemadando** » 2007-06-16 11:42pm

ray245 wrote:Hey! Why do you guys ALWAYS forget the pacific theater FPS? How many good games have come out for those? It's always nazis, nazis...Give me Iwo Jima!

Sure, you go and play the pure shit that was MoH:PA. I'll go and play something that was actually fun and ran like something other than an arthritic two-legged dog.

PeZook · Post by **PeZook** » 2007-06-17 02:19am

weemadando wrote:Hey! Why do you guys ALWAYS forget the pacific theater FPS? How many good games have come out for those? It's always nazis, nazis...Give me Iwo Jima!

Bah, Russians. Running around with their stupid AKs and stuff.

Why not become creative? Give us Germans! You fought them throughout the last three CoD games, now they can be the good guys, too!

Or Poles. Yeah, I'd like Poles

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