STGOD: Dead Artist's Society: Human/Earth Powers Discussion

[InnocentBystander]

All nations of the Sol system are encouraged to participate in this most important multinational organization, not just those who inhabit terra.

[Dahak]

All nations of the Sol system are encouraged to participate in this most important multinational organization, not just those who inhabit terra.

Given the diverse location of Hegemony assets within the Sol system, we concur.

[Thirdfain]

While Poland's offer is indeed generous, Portugal believes that it would be in the best interests of the Sol community that a multi-national transit authority be set up, run jointly by all nations involved. The safety of Sol is not Poland's responsibility, but every Earthbound nation's duty. We propose the formation of the International Transit Authority Trans Sol (ITATS). An international joint venture such as this should foster cooperation between the involved and help maintain the security of Sol.

The Portuguese representitive should re-read the Polish suggestion, in fact, that is precisely what we suggested. The Republic's precise words were " We could establish a Board with all major terrestrial nations having a vote in the event that we need to make decisions, with majority rule. Does that sound fair?" I hope the situation is now a little more clear as to our intentions regarding the Pan-Terrestrial Transit Authority.

[InnocentBystander]

While Poland's offer is indeed generous, Portugal believes that it would be in the best interests of the Sol community that a multi-national transit authority be set up, run jointly by all nations involved. The safety of Sol is not Poland's responsibility, but every Earthbound nation's duty. We propose the formation of the International Transit Authority Trans Sol (ITATS). An international joint venture such as this should foster cooperation between the involved and help maintain the security of Sol.

The Portuguese representitive should re-read the Polish suggestion, in fact, that is precisely what we suggested. The Republic's precise words were " We could establish a Board with all major terrestrial nations having a vote in the event that we need to make decisions, with majority rule. Does that sound fair?" I hope the situation is now a little more clear as to our intentions regarding the Pan-Terrestrial Transit Authority.

Portugal's suggestion was in response to Poland's most generous offer to 'foot the bill'. It is important that participating nations share in all aspects of the formation of a Sol Transit Authority.

[Thirdfain]

Portugal's suggestion was in response to Poland's most generous offer to 'foot the bill'. It is important that participating nations share in all aspects of the formation of a Sol Transit Authority.

For the actual antennae itself only, of course. Getting a bunch of seperate computer and manufacturing systems in would only muddy the waters. If you all would like to contribute money to the construction, that would be fine.

[Dahak]

Portugal's suggestion was in response to Poland's most generous offer to 'foot the bill'. It is important that participating nations share in all aspects of the formation of a Sol Transit Authority.

For the actual antennae itself only, of course. Getting a bunch of seperate computer and manufacturing systems in would only muddy the waters. If you all would like to contribute money to the construction, that would be fine.

As a joint operation, it is in the Hegemony's opinion that the partners should contribute and partake in equal terms in all steps of the project.

[Thirdfain]

Portugal's suggestion was in response to Poland's most generous offer to 'foot the bill'. It is important that participating nations share in all aspects of the formation of a Sol Transit Authority.

For the actual antennae itself only, of course. Getting a bunch of seperate computer and manufacturing systems in would only muddy the waters. If you all would like to contribute money to the construction, that would be fine.

As a joint operation, it is in the Hegemony's opinion that the partners should contribute and partake in equal terms in all steps of the project.

The Republic will be building a new antenna either way; it can be under the Republic's control, or it can be manned, planned, and staffed by a joint authority. The decision is yours.

[InnocentBystander]

Portugal would like to propose a charter for the review of all interested nations.

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Charter
International Transit Authority Trans Sol

The ITATS is a multinational organization founded by prominent nations of the sol system. Tasked with protecting civilian shipping and general police work of the Sol system, ITATS replaces the hodgepodge of systems currently being used by various nations within sol to police their spheres of influence.

Infrastructure:
8 points per nation
Using a combination of transit control stations, tracking sattelites, communcation relays, hyperspace telescopes and Traffic Control Centers ITATS is able to track incoming and outgoing ships, police the system for illegal goods and maintain the overall security of the Sol system.

Police Craft:
8 points per nation
Patrol craft of varying size are used by ITATS to close any gaps in sattelite coverage of the ITATS monitoring and communications system. ITATS ships will also render assistance to merchant ships within their range; assist damaged craft and other general Coast Guard activities.

Integration:
4 points per nation
One of ITATS largest hurtles to overcome is the integration among the various participating nations. Not insignificant resources must be spent to integrate the ITATS system with each nation's own existing infrastructure. Officers and crew must be trained from each nation and placed, equally, among the various ranks within ITATS.

Truly this is a model on which the whole galaxy can take note.

[Thirdfain]

Portugal would like to propose a charter for the review of all interested nations.

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Charter
International Transit Authority Trans Sol

The ITATS is a multinational organization founded by prominent nations of the sol system. Tasked with protecting civilian shipping and general police work of the Sol system, ITATS replaces the hodgepodge of systems currently being used by various nations within sol to police their spheres of influence.

Infrastructure:
8 points per nation
Using a combination of transit control stations, tracking sattelites, communcation relays, hyperspace telescopes and Traffic Control Centers ITATS is able to track incoming and outgoing ships, police the system for illegal goods and maintain the overall security of the Sol system.

Police Craft:
8 points per nation
Patrol craft of varying size are used by ITATS to close any gaps in sattelite coverage of the ITATS monitoring and communications system. ITATS ships will also render assistance to merchant ships within their range; assist damaged craft and other general Coast Guard activities.

Integration:
4 points per nation
One of ITATS largest hurtles to overcome is the integration among the various participating nations. Not insignificant resources must be spent to integrate the ITATS system with each nation's own existing infrastructure. Officers and crew must be trained from each nation and placed, equally, among the various ranks within ITATS.

Truly this is a model on which the whole galaxy can take note.

The Republic has two major problems with this suggested charter. The first is the integration plan advanced by the Portuguese Empire. In addition to being staggering expensive and time-consuming to link the estimated sixteen different traffic control systems already in place, the Republic suggests that a single linked traffic control system would in fact be more vulnerable- should war break out between terrestrial powers, the involved parties would most certainly want access to their own, un-linked tracking networks, should they become necessary. Merely establishing the international tracking system as a seperate infrastructure would be more cost effective and would allow the system to come online in a far shorter period of time while allowing roughly similar capabilities.

Secondly, the ammount of money suggested by the Empire for deployment in the form of police seems vastly oversized; if all terrestrial powers were to contribute then the ITATS at the suggested rate, the ITATS would command enough resources to build an entire cruiser squadron. This seems hardly necessary, would not only a few destroyer-sized craft and a large number of sublight launches provide the necessary security at less than half the cost?

Finally, the Republic finds the title "International Transit Authority Trans Sol" to be clunky and unpleasant to the ears, and suggests the alternate title of "SITA," for Solar International Transit Authority.

Otherwise, the Republic finds the Imperial suggestion excellent, and applauds their forethought and leadership.

[InnocentBystander]

Please Consider:

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Transit Charter: Revision 1
Solar International Transit Authority

The SITA is a multinational organization founded by prominent nations of the sol system. Tasked with protecting civilian shipping and general police work of the Sol system, SITA replaces the hodgepodge of systems currently being used by various nations within sol to police their spheres of influence.

In an effort to promote peace throughout Sol SITA will considered a neutral in [i]all[/i] domestic altercations and will continue to provide its usual services during wartime. All governments are expected to consider SITA ships with the same regard as the Red Cross. SITA ships will be expected to avoid warzones and to redirect the flow of civilian traffic around dangerous or disputed regions.

Infrastructure: 
8 points per nation 
Using a combination of transit control stations, tracking sattelites, communcation relays, hyperspace telescopes and Traffic Control Centers ITATS is able to track incoming and outgoing ships, police the system for illegal goods and maintain the overall security of the Sol system.

Police Craft: 
To be determined.
Patrol craft of varying size are used by SITA to close any gaps in sattelite coverage of the SITA monitoring and communications system. SITA ships will also render assistance to merchant ships within their range; assist damaged craft and other general Coast Guard activities. 

Personel and Other Expenses:
2 points per nation 
Rather than integrate all of Sol's current traffic control systems, SITA will be a separate agency under the control of all participating nations. In addition to the costs of creating such an organization SITA must be held up to the highest standards. Quality personel are needed keep the organization focused on its goal of providing safety for the civilian ships which travel to and from Sol.

Truly this is a model on which the whole galaxy can take note.

We would like to open the floor to further suggestions as to the per-nation expenses that should be devoted to SITA. Portugal feels that no less than 10 firgate sized vessels and at least 50 smaller police craft would be needed in order for SITA to effectively police the Sol system.

[Thirdfain]

the Polish Republic ratifies this treaty, on the condition that the issue of police expenditure is dealt with later.

[Redleader34]

The Co-Operative would gladly volunteer their oldest vessels for this duty, as we have a old era Sleeper ship that would serve as a perfect Command center. I propose placing it in orbit of the Co-Ordinates of the Equaor and the International Date line, as the cost of moving the sleeper ship from the New Mombasa Heights Colony to there would be almost negligible with several tugs. We approve of the Sita name, as it is a nicer sound on the tongue than the ITIAS. For the Network, we still have several hundred old ground sensors from the Americans anti-nuclear defenses that could be quickly converted as sensors for the southern grid. IF the Americans were willing to use their old SETI station, if the Pole were wiling to set up some antennas to cover the North, and if the Empire could cover Asia and Austriala. Most of the Earth would be covered, with the exception of the Antarctic sector, which would be monitored by a Polar Space Station , which I propose be made from an asteroid which the Dominion could provide, all as a show of good faith on all sides. As for the computing issue, I propose we use their own variety of this Mac OS, as to lower costs of activation.

[Dahak]

The Hegemony ratifies the treaty, with the open issue of policing craft still pending.
We, like the Polish people, don't see the usage of a whole cruiser squadrons worth of craft to be in order. Use of smaller frigates or corvettes, along with hefty use of probes which can be produced cheaply, seems much more effective.

[nt01jones]

The Dominion Ratifies the treaty.

As for The Co-Operative's suggestion for a detection system around Terra herself, we approve of their foresight . We will gladly provide an asteroid for use in monitoring the Antarctic region. Though we would like to emphasize that SITA would also need to monitor the entire system as well, a task which would be more difficult to set up then just a simple system around Terra Herself.

[Dahak]

The Hegemony would be willing to set up a installation in our territory around Jupiter for observation of the outer perimeters of the solar system.

[nt01jones]

As the Dominion's holdings are at the edge of the system around Neptune and Pluto. We will be in a perfect position to provide observation of activities in the outskirts of the solar system.

[Imperial Overlord]

The Logos Centrality ratifies this treaty as well, although it to has concerns regarding the size of the proposed police force. Cruisers seem unnecessarily powerful for a police force, especially one that would legally be able to request and receive aid from the Sol fleets of the member nations.

[InnocentBystander]

Portugal would like to dispel the 'rumor' that the SITA was to be equipped with a squadron of cruisers. The proposed investment was to be used for buying modern patrol craft - Frigates and picket ships - with quality crew. Sol's sees more civilian traffic than other other system in the known galaxy and it would take a fair number of ships to properly police.

[Redleader34]

The Co-Operative ratifies this treaty, but we are concerned that the location of SITA be in any nations territories. As a solution, we should place it at a far Lagrange colony, as to foster plantary co-operation.

[Hawkwings]

The United States of America agrees with the SITA concept, and is prepared to lend ground-based sensors in Alaska, Newfoundland, Texas, the McMurdo Research Station in Antarctica, and the Aldrin Research Station on Luna.