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I dislike retconning in STGODs because it indicates sloppy playing. Diplomatic incidents spur things to happen, as opposed to monolithic power blocs sitting on their asses. However, if we're going to have hissy-fits over not reading posts, I will not prompt someone to leave. Retcon issued.
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Hmm, any criticism/feedback/advice/errors with regards to my OOB before the game starts properly?
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...Whoo. Alright, I'll be happy to edit my post, once I'm sure of what exactly happened, then. ;)

Did Dahak attack Starglider's ship?
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Dark Hellion wrote:Thanks for the mathcheck starglider, I got it fixed (shifted a couple of ship numbers).
Ok, updated, you're at 1496 points so feel free to take another destroyer.

Rhoenix you appear to have removed 40 points of ships and added 100 points of general upgrades, so you are now 60 points over target.
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So is my OOB fixes?
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rhoenix wrote:...Whoo. Alright, I'll be happy to edit my post, once I'm sure of what exactly happened, then. ;)

Did Dahak attack Starglider's ship?
Nitram issued the retcon, so Dahak did NOT attack Starglider. The incident never happened. All main-thread posts should be edited accordingly.

And rhoenix, also make sure to take out that bit about the Wanderers. That's not public knowledge at ALL, and posting in response to that is metagaming.
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By the way folks.. That's the one retcon I issue due to 'But I didn't read that post closely enough'. To anyone. So buck up and actually read.
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Starglider wrote:Rhoenix you appear to have removed 40 points of ships and added 100 points of general upgrades, so you are now 60 points over target.
Hmm, I could've sworn I re-accounted...fixing now.
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Just to cover my own ass, all this psionic shit flying around is going to be fairly apparent to the Qiraji. They can tell that things are happening, but not much else.
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Rawtooth wrote:Just to cover my own ass, all this psionic shit flying around is going to be fairly apparent to the Qiraji. They can tell that things are happening, but not much else.
This is what I should've implied before. The Gliesans aren't the sorcerors or benders of time and space the others are, being relatively new to their abilities - however, they can certainly tell when there's quite a bit of psionic energy moving around.

Also, Starglider, I did in fact account correctly - I now only have 1300 points worth of fleet, 100 points of planetary defenses, and 100 points of racial bonuses.
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Heh. Fortunately, said psionic shit is flying around due to general tetchyness, and not as a direct result of the goings-on in Earth orbit. So I don't have to retract it, just assume that it's a little less intense than it otherwise would have been.

To preserve some shreds of continuity, can we assume that there was a diplomatic scuffle in orbit, perhaps with a few warning shots fired? That'd make it easier for peripherally-involved parties to avoid having to rewrite the last page and a half.
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How far back wre things retconned? did the attack happen at all?
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I would presume Dahak will not try and completely abuse this mercy and write out all the conflict and scuffling. However, we'll see once he decides to post.
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Okay, are we to procede under the assumption that the giant mess with Starglider and Dahak and all of the fallout associated with that never happened? If so, it certainly looks like a fair number of posts are in need of editting or outright snippage, because currently the only incidents in the Sol system are the arrest of Nitram's Wanderers and UCBooties pirates.
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We'll see what is worked out with Dahak when he posts next. I'm in no rush there. But yes, you have two incidents to work with: Several individuals who were watching from the concourse were led away by augmented soldiers, any kind of psionic or psionic detection will be lit up, and then there's the arrest of a pirate diplomat.
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...Oh dear. I've amended my posts in the Coalition thread to account for possible issues, but it still predecates on Dahak's fleet attacking Starglider's. If this is changed, I'll edit again.
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Starglider wrote:
6 Cydonia-class Interdictor Cruisers: 100 Points
I'll just assume you meant 4. Also I can only see 75 (25+50) points of ground bounses, but at the end you count 100 points, I'll just go with 100.
Oh man, thanks. Yes, I meant 4. I corrected the error. I made a 1500 point OOB and then decided to give myself a competitive ground force--I can't let wierd protoplasm thingies and stuff be better at eating people than Dinosaurs in power armor.
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SirNitram wrote:I would presume Dahak will not try and completely abuse this mercy and write out all the conflict and scuffling. However, we'll see once he decides to post.
Retcon complete, I hope it's acceptable?
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Do we have a map yet? I'd like to see one of those before I pick on someone to buzz for the mainthread.
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Dahak wrote:
SirNitram wrote:I would presume Dahak will not try and completely abuse this mercy and write out all the conflict and scuffling. However, we'll see once he decides to post.
Retcon complete, I hope it's acceptable?
It will do. Folks, re-read 6 and 7 if you have any interaction in the Sol system.
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Nephtys wrote:Do we have a map yet? I'd like to see one of those before I pick on someone to buzz for the mainthread.
Well, since nobody yet has offered much, here's a good start.

The line is a holdover concept from previous STGODs, and is supposed to represent "known space". The map can be expanded as needed, but remember that removing yourself entirely from known space does have drawbacks.

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Post deleted, hadn't finished reading OOC. Apologies. Will work on different reaction.

EDIT: Seeing as my species has been isolationist, and the actions I can't post without an official story thread, I request a spot in the bottom right, near the edge of Known Space.
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Ok, two options:

a) Have my ship seriously damaged, but repairable. Obviously very angry about the attack and hanging around to hear the apologies.
b) Lose weapons but not cloak, run away from blatantly superior forces. Not receive apologies due to cloak being double blind. Send essentially the same message back home as before.

(b) means less rewriting. Going for that, there are two further options:

a) Explanation from Earth reaches Jahlin Colony (the NGTO conference) first, due to the Elucidate taking some time to get clear of the system and send its own message. Retcon the NGTO post complaining about Dahak
b) Explanation from Earth isn't sent for several hours due to general confusion and chaos in the diplomatic corps, or is sent but to species homeworlds and not copied to the conference, meaning that it arrives later due to having to be relayed. Minimal retcon of the NGTO post, everyone there is on edge and will have to be calmed down later (in further posts).

I favour b+b for minimal rewriting, what do the other people who've posted think?

EDIT: I'd suggest putting the North Galactic Treaty Organisation founders generally bordering each other on the map, though not in a homogenous block.
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I expect the NGTO members will wish to be arranged in a semi-plausible fashion to the north. I shall ask the others.
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Post by rhoenix »

Due to the events that have happened, plus ease of writing (not to mention the hilarity of our very first interstellar incident), I'll vote for B+b, as it allows for writing flexibility and doesn't require large amounts of rewriting.
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