The Creationist museum to open today

[Ted C]

Really? I'd've thought it'd have more to do with the fact that they were medieval Europeans and so painted with models and looks that they were familiar with. It's not exactly like they had first century Jews on hand to stand in as models after all.

While you might excuse medieval European painters for not knowing any better (although, frankly, many of them should have), I don't see any reason to give more modern painters the same credit. Nonetheless, Jesus paintings that I see are exclusively of "European" men, rather than then "Middle Eastern" men you would expect to be accurate.

[Darth Servo]

Nonetheless, Jesus paintings that I see are exclusively of "European" men,

Visit an AME church and you'll see him depicted as a black man.

[eyl]

Link

A tour through the ... "museum". With lots of pictures. Like this one:



Child abuse.

That looks like the bastard child of a triceratops and a cow....

[Singular Intellect]

That looks like the bastard child of a triceratops and a cow....

What, you're surprised? To make an accurate model they'd probably have to reference something like fossils rather than cartoons.

[Darth Servo]

That looks like the bastard child of a triceratops and a cow....

Quite ironic actually, given that such absurd half-beasts are the strawmen creationists so often try to use against evolution.

[chitoryu12]

I personally love how they call the evolutionary theory "Human Reason", and the biblical science theory "God's Word". It's as if they're saying that all humans are stupid little workers ignoring their boss.

[Darth Servo]

I personally love how they call the evolutionary theory "Human Reason", and the biblical science theory "God's Word". It's as if they're saying that all humans are stupid little workers ignoring their boss.

There really needs to be a law requiring the absurdities in "God's Word" be listed everytime they try and compare the two.

[Gil Hamilton]

I personally love how they call the evolutionary theory "Human Reason", and the biblical science theory "God's Word". It's as if they're saying that all humans are stupid little workers ignoring their boss.

I like how they quote Rene Descarte over the Human Reason part, even though he was one of the philosopher mathematicians who once attempted to write a proof for the existence of God.

[CJvR]

This place even made the news here in Sweden a couple of days ago!

[Lord Poe]

Nonetheless, Jesus paintings that I see are exclusively of "European" men,

Visit an AME church and you'll see him depicted as a black man.

In actuality, Jesus most likely resembled Osama bin Laden.

I wonder if I'd get thrown out if I walked through the museum and pointed at exhibits and laughed uproariously like Robert De Niro in "Cape Fear"?

[Mange]

This place even made the news here in Sweden a couple of days ago!

Yes, and it was scary as shit. And people believe that stuff?! Is it a new intellectual Dark Age coming up in the U.S.?

[Superboy]

::scratch head:: Answersingenesis agrees with you. So what the hell does a "dinos on the ark" believing Christian say happened to them post flood?

In high school, my physics teacher was a die hard creationist (unsuprisingly, I didn't learn a damn bit of real physics until after graduating) and he explained that the dinosaurs all suffocated to death. He said that before the flood, there was a huge layer of water in the atmosphere that caused a much higher concentration of oxygen on earth.

The flood caused that layer of water to fall and the oxygen levels dropped to what they currently are. According to him, dinosaurs had very narrow nasal passages for animals that size and they were no longer able to breath in as much oxygen as they needed.

[CaptJodan]

In high school, my physics teacher was a die hard creationist (unsuprisingly, I didn't learn a damn bit of real physics until after graduating) and he explained that the dinosaurs all suffocated to death. He said that before the flood, there was a huge layer of water in the atmosphere that caused a much higher concentration of oxygen on earth.

The flood caused that layer of water to fall and the oxygen levels dropped to what they currently are. According to him, dinosaurs had very narrow nasal passages for animals that size and they were no longer able to breath in as much oxygen as they needed.

Your teacher should have been or should now be fired. Was this in a religious institution or something? I have a hard time believing that a teacher in a public school could actually ever teach that.

[Dooey Jo]

This place even made the news here in Sweden a couple of days ago!

Yes, and it was scary as shit. And people believe that stuff?! Is it a new intellectual Dark Age coming up in the U.S.?

Sure, lots of people really do believe that crap. It was pretty cool that Lawrence Krauss was there to comment on the whole thing, but I wonder if news programs in the US would have let him get away uncontested with basically saying the whole place was full of shit, and instead also ask a priest or "creation scientist" about his (more enthusiastic) opinion...

Note that if you asked your average priest here in Sweden on his opinion on this whole thing, he'd probably agree with Krauss that it's just bullshit

[Pulp Hero]

I wonder if I'd get thrown out if I walked through the museum and pointed at exhibits and laughed uproariously like Robert De Niro in "Cape Fear"?

I'm thinking Jack Nicholson in "Batman"

[wautd]

Stolen from Spacebattles:


My trip to the Creation Museum
[QUOTE=ElPintoGrande;3225337]As promised a week ago, here is my report on the Creation Museum. With Pictures!

We all know a museum dedicated to propagating the idea of creationism just opened in Petersburg, Kentucky. My friends and I, being the easily entertained gentlemen that we are, decided to take a road trip to see it this weekend.

We explored the grounds outside of the museum before purchasing tickets, and our efforts were rewarded by a harvest of Jesus bumper stickers, flag n' eagle license plates, and a sign which read:

"ATTENTION

The Creation Museum is private property, an outreach of Answers in Genesis.
Guests are expected to conduct themselves in a polite, respectful manner at all times. Loud, disrespectful, destructive, obscene, or abusive behavior will not be tolerated, and may result in your removal from the premises. Please be courteous to other guests, security personnel, and our staff while you are here.

Thank you!"

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Clearly, this sign was aimed squarely at us.

Undeterred, we entered the museum, greeted by a display of friendly, co-existing cavemen and velociraptors.
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Rhetoric aside, the dinosaur replicas at this museum were outstanding.

First, our group was ushered into a theater where the lights dimmed and a robotic woman began questioning the meaning of life. All that I took away from the movie is that you're either a creationist (GOOD!) or an atheist (BAD!). Also, life only has meaning when you accept creationism.

Be warned if you plan to visit this museum yourself: the state-of-the-art system includes--bizarrely--built-in sprinklers which we were never warned about. During the flood, God's love truly rained down upon us.

It was frightening to wander through the exhibits and see children being indoctrinated. http://a.photos.cx/DSC01272-75d.JPG

Parents lovingly bent over their children, pointing out God's hatred of homosexuals and apparent acceptance of certain aspects of evolution. No kidding, one plaque read:

"The dogs leaving the Ark generated all the dog species in the present, including coyotes, wolves, and foxes. In the last few centuries, hundreds of domesticated dog varieties were bred, suggesting incredible variety is built into organisms."

So evolution kind of exists, because God made it so?

Continuing on, I learned that incest was A-OK in biblical times because God hadn't inflicted genetic mutations upon mankind quite yet. http://a.photos.cx/DSC01275-44f.JPG

Surprisingly, this museum advocated racial tolerance; since God made us all, and we are all descended from Adam and Eve, love each other as brothers (just...not quite that closely, you freaks).

To me, the most amusing demonstration of the contorted thinking of creationists was demonstrated with a series of plaques describing the changes from Eden to the modern times:

"VENOM
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Though nothing harmed animals before Adam's sin, venom harms animals in the present. We do not know exactly how venoms first entered the world. Possibilities include:

-Changed use of chemicals (chemicals that once had non-harmful functions at the creation changed to venoms after the Curse).
-Revealed information (the potential to make venoms was built into the original creation, but not revealed until after the Curse)."

and:

"CARNIVORES
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Though all animals ate plants before Adam's sin, some are carnivores in the present fallen world. We do not know how meat eating first entered the world. Possibilities include:

-Changed diet (the diet of some animals merely changed)
-Revealed information (the potential for meat eating was placed into the original creation, but not revealed until after the Curse)

By removing the weakest and diseased, carnivores help keep the fallen world functioning despite sin."

Oh, alright, so God changed teeth, internal organs, and nutritional requirements for the carnivores? It all makes so much more sense now.

Honestly, this thread isn't a bash against Christianity. If that's your belief, more power to you. But, Christians, even you should take offense at this museum. Instead of preaching a message of tolerance, it teaches that if you aren't with them (i.e., a Creationist), you must be against them (i.e., an atheist). For these people, there is no middle ground. The entire world is black and white.

I would encourage everyone who wants to be either entertained or better informed about this rather illogical position to visit the museum. I felt dirty paying the money, but the trip taught me a lot...just not what the curators wanted me to learn.

Mo' Piktures!

Red Tooth and Claw plaque (note the bonus plaque in the background):
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God finds evolution:
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Organisms were buried in sequence during the flood. Fossils, explained:
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Oh, okay then:
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Eden-->The Fall-->The Flood-->Ice Age-->World chock full of sin and nutrients? :
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More about the flood:
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Baby dinosaurs...awww:
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God made rhinoceroses:
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So because outdated science is wrong, creationism is right? :
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WE ALL GONNA DIE:
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More flood crap:
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Marsupials:
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Ghetto thuggin' all the way to...church:
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Last batch of my photos:
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Here are some extra photos snagged from my friend:

The infamous triceratops with the saddle:
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Life is worthless without creationism:
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Humans are stupid. God is smart!:
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My friend edited the above sign to make it a bit more sincere:
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"Forget those OTHER, outdated myths":
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Shouldn't anthropomorphic animals be sacrilegious or something?:
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Before the fall, heroin had no effect. After the fall, ingrained chemical reactions began to display themselves:
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More pictures, from my other friends camera:
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So, if the continents split up underwater, how did the animals reach across the oceans? :
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Oh, of course. They floated over on log rafts!
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Turns out the actor who portrayed Adam taking his first breath owns his own porn site, etc.
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Enjoy! Discuss![/QUOTE]

[wautd]

Could a mod please fix the quoting? Kthx

[chitoryu12]

Dear God. It's....it's worse than I thought! Weren't they just content with discrediting us? Now they have to warp our statements so that they agree with us?

Now that's just plain rude!

[Zixinus]

When I will be afraid, is when politicians will start marching up and telling how good the museum is.

[Mange]

That's the worst fucking piece of moronic drivel I've ever seen. What's wrong with these people? I nearly tore my hair off reading the crap. And children are indoctrinated by their parents with this lunacy?

[Dooey Jo]

That flood crap is pretty funny. It's as if they sat down and watched every bad disaster movie out there, took all the worst parts and combined them into one brain-killing story and said: "Hey, this is so stupid it must be true!"
Super continent-sized storms, huge volcanoes, world-covering tsunamis, instant mammoth-freezing ice ages...

Coming up, in the Bible: The story of Jebediah, who went into the Earth's core and threw a holy handgrenade at it because God had stopped its rotation.

[Surlethe]

That flood crap is pretty funny. It's as if they sat down and watched every bad disaster movie out there, took all the worst parts and combined them into one brain-killing story and said: "Hey, this is so stupid it must be true!"
Super continent-sized storms, huge volcanoes, world-covering tsunamis, instant mammoth-freezing ice ages...

Actually, the contortions that Flood "Theory" has to go through directly result from the desire to explain evidence that directly contradicts the flood. For example, they propose "enhanced geological activity" (code for "miracle") in order to say mountains rose during the flood, so that the theory wouldn't have to account for enough water to drown Mt Everest. That's where the huge volcanoes and world-covering tsunamis come from. I wonder why the tsunamis didn't flip the Ark ... .

[Dooey Jo]

That flood crap is pretty funny. It's as if they sat down and watched every bad disaster movie out there, took all the worst parts and combined them into one brain-killing story and said: "Hey, this is so stupid it must be true!"
Super continent-sized storms, huge volcanoes, world-covering tsunamis, instant mammoth-freezing ice ages...

Actually, the contortions that Flood "Theory" has to go through directly result from the desire to explain evidence that directly contradicts the flood. For example, they propose "enhanced geological activity" (code for "miracle") in order to say mountains rose during the flood, so that the theory wouldn't have to account for enough water to drown Mt Everest. That's where the huge volcanoes and world-covering tsunamis come from. I wonder why the tsunamis didn't flip the Ark ... .

Yes, I know why they really do it, but I hadn't heard of the enormous hurricanes and blitz ice age before... In my experience they tend to get very quiet when the recent Ice Age is mentioned, but maybe that's because the evidence for it here in Sweden are painfully obvious and the more American-based creationism movement doesn't care so much about our poor fundies...

[CaptJodan]

I wonder why the tsunamis didn't flip the Ark ... .

God watched Stargate: Atlantis, and created an Ancient shield around the ark.

That's the worst fucking piece of moronic drivel I've ever seen. What's wrong with these people?

Having parents who believe the general story of the flood (including the mountains after the flood, Grand Canyon made during it, etc, rain didn't exist before the flood, all water from the sky came in the form of dew each night....I know...I know), I often ask myself the same thing. They're reasonably intelligent. I'm not saying they're any more than average intelligence (and neither am I).

Yet when it comes to this, their brains turn off. I think it's just simple indoctrination to some people. They don't know enough basic science to realize the utter idiocy of the flood myth. Even if this museum's theories of how it happened didn't sit well, the flood would STILL be true, it would just be the museum that got it wrong. As for science and logic, God doesn't need them. God can do anything, so of course our pathetic man rules don't apply (i've never gotten a good answer on why there's no EVIDENCE for what they say occured).

To them, the fact that a large portion of religious beliefs have some kind of flooding story or myth signals all the proof they need that it occured, irregardless of contrary civilizations like Egypt which flooded every year and thus made it a non-event.

[Zixinus]

Coming up, in the Bible: The story of Jebediah, who went into the Earth's core and threw a holy handgrenade at it because God had stopped its rotation.

Considering how much crap they already try to establish as real, I wouldn't be surprised if they would have taken that suggestion seriously. I mean it.