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Todays forcast: Light drizzle and slightly damp (UK Summer)

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Trapped man dies amid flood chaos
A man who became trapped in a flooded drain has died, as heavy rains continue to fall across England and Wales.

Rescuers had battled to free the man in Hull, where officials declared a state of emergency amid torrential downpours.

Severe weather and flood warnings are in force in many areas. The worst rain is expected in Yorks and Lincs, where more than 120 schools have been closed.

Forecasters say there could be up to a month's rainfall in the next 24 hours and more flooding than in recent days.

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South-east England escaped the worst downpours, with rain only delaying the start of play at Wimbledon.

Music fans leaving the site of the Glastonbury Festival in Somerset - parts of which were left awash after heavy rain throughout the three-day event - have been experiencing more wet conditions and delays as they head home.

On the railways, Central Trains, Chiltern Railways, First Capital Connect, First Great Western, Transpennine Express and Virgin Trains have all warned of disruption to services due to the weather.

Forecasters said that June's average rainfall of about 50mm could fall in many places over the next 24 hours.

An area stretching from north-east Wales through the north Midlands, Lincolnshire and Yorkshire will see more than 25mm of rain, with up to 75mm in a few parts.

Phil Rothwell, head of flood defence at the Environment Agency, said the "unprecedented weather systems" were causing "very difficult circumstances".

The man who has died in Hull had become trapped in neck-deep water when he went to help his grandfather clear a flooded drain in the Hessle area.

Glenn Ramsden, from Humberside Fire and Rescue Service, said the man slipped and got his foot caught in a metal grate.



Rescuers, including police divers, spent several hours battling to free the man, thought to be his 20s, but were unable to save him.

Mr Ramsden said: "It's been an absolutely desperate operation to save this man, but at the end of the day we couldn't do it."

In Lincolnshire, a nine-year-old boy was rescued by passers-by from the swollen River Lud in Louth.

Howard Barraclough told BBC Lincolnshire that one of his fellow rescuers had almost been pulled under the water.

And in Derbyshire, a rescue helicopter and fire crews were travelling to Staveley after reports of a man stuck up a tree.

Homes evacuated

Meanwhile, dozens of people were evacuated from their homes in Nottinghamshire, Lincolnshire and the Halton area of Leeds.

About 100 people in Lowdham, Nottinghamshire, 60 homes and businesses in Louth, Lincolnshire and 70 houses in the Halton area of Leeds were affected, with occupants moving to emergency centres.

In Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, the fire service has been inundated with reports of flood water entering cellars in shops and homes, and in nearby Gloucester fire crews rescued 50 dogs and 20 cats stranded in kennels.

Further south in Bideford, north Devon, heavy rain caused streams to overflow their banks, flooding properties.

Schools are being advised to close early in Shropshire and many across the country could remain closed on Tuesday.

The Environment Agency has issued 11 severe flood warnings and 80 standard flood warnings.

Severe warnings are in place in north-east England, the Midlands and over much of the east of the country.

BBC Weather forecaster Matt Taylor said: "For many areas the rain will remain heavy and persistent, coupled with strong winds - a truly miserable day."

The weather will be mostly cloudy elsewhere, with scattered showers. There could be some sunny spells in western Scotland.

The South East will see the highest temperatures of about 18C.

The rain will ease and move towards the South East later on, clearing all areas soon after dawn.
Typical British summer, eh?

It's tragic about the bloke getting killed - the emergecny services were trying bloody hard as well.

Thankfully they seem to be doing a good job in managing the various situations around the country. It's not been too bad down here - just constant heavy rain, which is draining rapidly.
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I think this week would have been an apt time to release Evan Almighty.

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Tell me about it. I've just spent the last three days doing Karate in a field in north Somerset, and this is the first time I've been dry since Friday. Absolutely torrential, as bad as the storm we had last week that flooded a nearby coastal town.

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According to the news it's been the wettest month on record though I don't know if that was for the country or just for Yorkshire.
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Fuck Yorkshire. We're getting soaked west of the Pennines and it's annoying. I don't care if you're falling down manholes or stuck on the roof of your office block, I'm getting wet walking the dog. Daily.
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And the real pisstake. I'm in fucking Aberdeen and it ain't been all that bad. :P
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Perhaps I am missing something, but at the beginning of June we had 1.82 inches (like 45mm right) in 2 days. I wasn't even really noticeable, just gloomy. Have you been having multiple days of this weather? Or do you simply have really bad water drainage as this weather is unusual? Some of us non-brits need the situation explained, because when you say bad weather, us in the Midwest often end up scratching our heads.
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Well, there's 22 Severe Flood Warnings
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Give it two weeks though and there will still be a drought, hosepipe bans and a record low water table according to the authorities.

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Sheffield is getting its arse kicked, its a little odd to see roads I drive on every day completely underwater on international TV.

Christ, I drive under those collapsed buildings nearly every day!

I kinda glad there were giant flood puddles blocking exit from my village.....

Rotherham(south yorkshire) is being evacuated in parts due to the Dam at Ulley having huge feck off chunks missing!
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Is it just me or has the UK been plagued more and more frequently by these mass floodings in the last few years? Or did I just not notice them before?
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SiegeTank wrote:Is it just me or has the UK been plagued more and more frequently by these mass floodings in the last few years? Or did I just not notice them before?
This is the first time there's been a spectacular amount of them, there has been one or two localised floods down in Cornwall in the last few years, but this is certainly the most we've had in the last decade or so.
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It's not been too bad here. I've never been so happy to live atop a hill, near no major water courses though.
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Vanas wrote:It's not been too bad here. I've never been so happy to live atop a hill, near no major water courses though.
Yeah, building on reclaimed land is gonna really bite some (five million) people in the arse.

Hooray for living on hills!
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We need some rain over here on this side of the pond, my grass is burnt to a crisp.
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Can we in the U.S. make "Britain stole our rain" jokes yet?

More seriously, this really is disheartening, especially considering the ongoing droughts here in the SE United States right now.
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And, dispite the fact the fact that thousands of home are utterly fucked, and millions of quids worth of damage has been created. the people up there still are not panicking, being hysterical and generally running around like headless chickens. Good for them.

It's nice to see our stoism isnt gone, merely kept locked away for rainy days (groan)
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Is this global warming related? It's the first thing that comes to mind, for me, but I thought that was a long-term issue that would slowly ramp up rather a sudden 'hey, guys, you've got a monsoon season now, didn't you know?' sort of thing.
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Crazy_Vasey wrote:Is this global warming related? It's the first thing that comes to mind, for me, but I thought that was a long-term issue that would slowly ramp up rather a sudden 'hey, guys, you've got a monsoon season now, didn't you know?' sort of thing.
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Now, I'm not sure if your water problems are global warming-related, mind you, but I wouldn't be surprised.
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I couldn't believe it this morning. Getting ready to go out, I had GMTV on just as they had a guy in a helo reporting on the Ulley dam about to fail and literally submerge a whole town, when Fiona Philips interrupts saying they now cut live to LA where PARIS HILTON IS RELEASED FROM PRISON.

Because the destruction of a major sewage plant, power station, three villages, a whole chunk of the M1 and a large town cannot compare to some airhead American slut NOT-serving her time in jail. :roll:
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Large scale floods and constant rain. Lovely timing for a 8 day hike through the lake district as I flee the humidity here :x
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Dark Hellion wrote:Perhaps I am missing something, but at the beginning of June we had 1.82 inches (like 45mm right) in 2 days. I wasn't even really noticeable, just gloomy. Have you been having multiple days of this weather? Or do you simply have really bad water drainage as this weather is unusual? Some of us non-brits need the situation explained, because when you say bad weather, us in the Midwest often end up scratching our heads.
The places with thousands evacuated and tens of millions to hundreds of millions in damages had twice that in 12 hours after one of the wettest months on record. If you don't see how that is something of an issue, I suggest you come over here and explain it to the thousands affected.

I mean, Katrina wasn't even anything to really write home about as it made landfall, yet it sank a city. One does not need a super-storm to hit to cause damage to places already vulnerable from constant bad weather recently and with defences not meant to take such a strain ordinarily.
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Dark Hellion wrote:Perhaps I am missing something, but at the beginning of June we had 1.82 inches (like 45mm right) in 2 days. I wasn't even really noticeable, just gloomy. Have you been having multiple days of this weather? Or do you simply have really bad water drainage as this weather is unusual? Some of us non-brits need the situation explained, because when you say bad weather, us in the Midwest often end up scratching our heads.
The places with thousands evacuated and tens of millions to hundreds of millions in damages had twice that in 12 hours after one of the wettest months on record. If you don't see how that is something of an issue, I suggest you come over here and explain it to the thousands affected.

I mean, Katrina wasn't even anything to really write home about as it made landfall, yet it sank a city. One does not need a super-storm to hit to cause damage to places already vulnerable from constant bad weather recently and with defences not meant to take such a strain ordinarily.

Add to that the Water table across the whole of the UK is the highest it's been for a long time due to the long hosepipe ban.
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Ok, so you have had wet weather the whole month, plus a couple inches over the past couple days. That makes sense for the flooding then. We don't get British extended forcasts over here you know, so when you post you got 4 inches of rain and it causes major flooding, it seems weird. I live in the Quad Cities, in Illinois, on the fucking Mississippi, so flooding is sorta a fact of life here. Giving us out in hicksville perspective is important sometimes.
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