Most competent aliens to fail at invading modern earth

bilateralrope · Post by **bilateralrope** » 2007-07-02 11:27pm

Of all the alien species that attempted to invade modern (or a less advanced) earth, but were defeated by us fighting back, which ones were the most competent at doing so ?

General Zod · Post by **General Zod** » 2007-07-02 11:34pm

The ID4 aliens had the right idea. Right up until they were beaten by plot device.

Starglider · Post by **Starglider** » 2007-07-02 11:38pm

General Zod wrote:The ID4 aliens had the right idea. Right up until they were beaten by plot device.

Had they landed their troops a little earlier, they may have won anyway (certainly it would have been a hell of a ground battle after they lost their ships).

Now the Mars Attacks aliens, they genuinely were defeated by a plot device.

ColonialAdmiral · Post by **ColonialAdmiral** » 2007-07-02 11:42pm

Not to mention War of the Worlds. That was the greatness. No subtlty, just land and start shooting and gassing the crap out of everything. The only thing they forgot were air filters. Stupid microbes.

Zixinus · Post by **Zixinus** » 2007-07-03 12:33am

Can anyone name an alien race that fallen because they underestimated just how much punch our nukes do?

Sidewinder · Post by **Sidewinder** » 2007-07-03 12:57am

The Xilians in Godzilla: Final Wars had everything: space battleships, an army of monsters, mind-control over the monsters and super-soldiers, holographic technology to trick us into using up all our nukes against the vacuum of space...

They were defeated by a UFC champion using a flying battleship as bait to lure Godzilla into the battlefield. That bites. Literally.

Lusankya · Post by **Lusankya** » 2007-07-03 03:27am

Sidewinder wrote:The Xilians in Godzilla: Final Wars had everything: space battleships, an army of monsters, mind-control over the monsters and super-soldiers, holographic technology to trick us into using up all our nukes against the vacuum of space...

They were defeated by a UFC champion using a flying battleship as bait to lure Godzilla into the battlefield. That bites. Literally.

They also started off by just kidnapping the Secretary of the UN, getting an Xillian to imitate him and having themselves invited into the new "Space Nations". That probably would have worked too, if it hadn't been for that plucky reporter.

They also had the relative disadvantage of not being able to just eradicate humanity from the face of the planet, because they needed our DNA so they didn't get herpies or something.

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2007-07-03 04:03am

The Decepticons were pretty good at it. If Optimus Prime and those pesky Autobots hadn't shown up to help out, they'd have gotten their way easily.

Ford Prefect · Post by **Ford Prefect** » 2007-07-03 06:16am

DPDarkPrimus wrote:The Decepticons were pretty good at it. If Optimus Prime and those pesky Autobots hadn't shown up to help out, they'd have gotten their way easily.

Your pitiful electronic systems are no match for the power of Frenzy!

metavac · Post by **metavac** » 2007-07-03 11:27am

If we go by sheer duration of occupying Earth, the Gou'ald ruled Earth for three thousand years and the Psychlos for a millenia, but of course both were eventually beaten back by pre-industrial human beings.

Johonebesus · Post by **Johonebesus** » 2007-07-03 05:54pm

metavac wrote:If we go by sheer duration of occupying Earth, the Gou'ald ruled Earth for three thousand years and the Psychlos for a millenia, but of course both were eventually beaten back by pre-industrial human beings.

Speaking of the Goa'uld, what exactly is the official timeline? The movie had Ra landing around 10,500B.C., and the episode introducing Osiris confirmed an age of at least ten thousand years for his little escape ship. Then a couple of seasons ago the show had the Egyptians rebelling about 3,000 B.C., and the Antlantians went to Earth ten thousand years ago. Shouldn't they have landed right in Ra's court?

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2007-07-03 06:00pm

Johonebesus wrote: Speaking of the Goa'uld, what exactly is the official timeline? The movie had Ra landing around 10,500B.C., and the episode introducing Osiris confirmed an age of at least ten thousand years for his little escape ship. Then a couple of seasons ago the show had the Egyptians rebelling about 3,000 B.C., and the Antlantians went to Earth ten thousand years ago. Shouldn't they have landed right in Ra's court?

You’ll find more then one contradiction between the movie and the show. Its best just to ignore the bits of the movie that don’t work and be done with it, seeing how SG1 is very consistent within its self.

metavac · Post by **metavac** » 2007-07-03 06:15pm

Johonebesus wrote:Speaking of the Goa'uld, what exactly is the official timeline? The movie had Ra landing around 10,500B.C., and the episode introducing Osiris confirmed an age of at least ten thousand years for his little escape ship. Then a couple of seasons ago the show had the Egyptians rebelling about 3,000 B.C., and the Antlantians went to Earth ten thousand years ago. Shouldn't they have landed right in Ra's court?

Depends on how precise 10,000 years is meant to be. Could be that Ra missed them by a couple of millenia. The return of the Lanteans might even play a role in the Gou'ald discovery of Earth. Who knows?

Johonebesus · Post by **Johonebesus** » 2007-07-03 06:15pm

Sea Skimmer wrote:
You’ll find more then one contradiction between the movie and the show. Its best just to ignore the bits of the movie that don’t work and be done with it, seeing how SG1 is very consistent within its self.

Oh I know that quite well, but the very ancient date was confirmed in at least one episode.

Zor · Post by **Zor** » 2007-07-03 06:36pm

Classic war of the worlds Martians. They basically irradicated whatever mankind through at them, even when the British had devised some good plans against them. All artillery based threats were gassed and with only about fifty tripods they managed to destroy the most power nation on earth, only to sucome to diease.

Zor

Sidewinder · Post by **Sidewinder** » 2007-07-03 10:54pm

Lusankya wrote:
Sidewinder wrote:The Xilians in Godzilla: Final Wars had everything: space battleships, an army of monsters, mind-control over the monsters and super-soldiers, holographic technology to trick us into using up all our nukes against the vacuum of space...

They were defeated by a UFC champion using a flying battleship as bait to lure Godzilla into the battlefield. That bites. Literally.
They also started off by just kidnapping the Secretary of the UN, getting an Xillian to imitate him and having themselves invited into the new "Space Nations". That probably would have worked too, if it hadn't been for that plucky reporter.

They also had the relative disadvantage of not being able to just eradicate humanity from the face of the planet, because they needed our DNA so they didn't get herpies or something.

The Xilians needed our mitochondria to survive. In fact, they saw us as nothing more than cattle.

Sidewinder · Post by **Sidewinder** » 2007-07-03 10:57pm

Zor wrote:Classic war of the worlds Martians. They basically irradicated whatever mankind through at them, even when the British had devised some good plans against them. All artillery based threats were gassed and with only about fifty tripods they managed to destroy the most power nation on earth, only to sucome to diease.

Zor

This makes me curious: how effective would the Martians be during the height of World War I, with both sides using mustard gas and other toxins (and using protective masks to defend themselves from their own chemical weapons) like there's no tomorrow?

ray245 · Post by **ray245** » 2007-07-04 04:28am

Did the novel mention what kind of gas the martains used?

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2007-07-04 09:22am

Perhaps a more interesting question would be to ask which of the various alien species to have invaded Earth in sci-fi would win if they fought each other.

Drooling Iguana · Post by **Drooling Iguana** » 2007-07-04 10:02am

Hmmm... the aliens from The Abyss vs. Signs...

Pulp Hero · Post by **Pulp Hero** » 2007-07-04 10:21am

ray245 wrote:Did the novel mention what kind of gas the martains used?

No it is simply refered to as "black smoke"

Dartzap · Post by **Dartzap** » 2007-07-04 02:59pm

The Daleks seem to constantly try and invade, and tend to fail miserably, if only because Earth is defended by a God of Thunder Chavette and a Doctor.

Tasoth · Post by **Tasoth** » 2007-07-04 03:14pm

The Darkness from The Fifth Element. It, using the Mangalores and Zorg, managed to destroy the Mondochiwan ship, kill the opera singer and almost get the stones. The Darkness itself made it within Earth's orbit and was only stopped by act of plot device.

Post by **NecronLord** » 2007-07-04 03:26pm

Dartzap wrote:The Daleks seem to constantly try and invade, and tend to fail miserably, if only because Earth is defended by a God of Thunder Chavette and a Doctor.

I would discount anything in which Earth has outside aid. Or it's conceivable to have a Xeelee-like race fail to invade successfully, by just having them slapped off by something bigger.

Nieztchean Uber-Amoeba · Post by **Nieztchean Uber-Amoeba** » 2007-07-04 04:43pm

Tasoth wrote:The Darkness from The Fifth Element. It, using the Mangalores and Zorg, managed to destroy the Mondochiwan ship, kill the opera singer and almost get the stones. The Darkness itself made it within Earth's orbit and was only stopped by act of plot device.

If the Fifth Element is modern, where the hell is my flying taxi?