Why did Lord Revan wear a mask?(KOTOR spoilers)

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Well, besides the fact to hide to the user that your Revan, why did he wear a mask?
Why not? He was a sith, Malek hid his chin while he still got it. I can image various reasons why, but the first thing that comes to mind is an old tactic, that might fit well with Raven.

Dress your best men in your armour and send them to the front lines. When they fall, send another one. Having the rumours that your opponent is un-killable can give you the edge.

Beyond that, it also gives a good line of defence againts assassins. How can you kill someone if you don't know who the person is? When Raven was off duty, he just took the mask off and he was safe. Knowing the Mandaroians, they weren't afraid of using assassins if needed.
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I recall that there was a sith mask back in KOTOR 1 as well. It was dark-side limited, and gave you lightsaber specilazation.
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In KOTOR II HK says that one of the effective ways to kill a Jedi was poison grenades and such, well, maybe the mask had some kind of built-in mechanism to deal with gas grenades?

Also, I thought Revan was a good guy? Sure, he killed some innocent people, but wasnt it to prepare the Republic agains the "True Sith Empire"?
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That's a complicated question. You'll find a LOT of Sith who think they're doing the "right thing," advancing the galaxy by purging the weak. The truth of the matter, as I see it, is that ultimate power corrupts ultimately, and thirst for power typically dominates any sort of good intent a Sith Lord might have had when acting ruthlessly.
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Tanasinn wrote:That's a complicated question. You'll find a LOT of Sith who think they're doing the "right thing," advancing the galaxy by purging the weak. The truth of the matter, as I see it, is that ultimate power corrupts ultimately, and thirst for power typically dominates any sort of good intent a Sith Lord might have had when acting ruthlessly.
In KOTOR II GOTO says that Revan deliberately left some worlds untouched, maybe he was leaving some of the infastructure intact for whatever Sith Empire he supposedly found?

Also, I heard that the GE actually improved the workings of the Galaxy. I always saw the Rebels as the bad guys, but thats beside the point, well, anyways, I always thought Revan was good, the GE too.

As always, Im probably wrong. :)
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Darth Ruinus wrote:
Tanasinn wrote:That's a complicated question. You'll find a LOT of Sith who think they're doing the "right thing," advancing the galaxy by purging the weak. The truth of the matter, as I see it, is that ultimate power corrupts ultimately, and thirst for power typically dominates any sort of good intent a Sith Lord might have had when acting ruthlessly.
In KOTOR II GOTO says that Revan deliberately left some worlds untouched, maybe he was leaving some of the infastructure intact for whatever Sith Empire he supposedly found?

Also, I heard that the GE actually improved the workings of the Galaxy. I always saw the Rebels as the bad guys, but thats beside the point, well, anyways, I always thought Revan was good, the GE too.

As always, Im probably wrong. :)
This sort of judgment comes down to whether or not you believe that ends can justify means. It is strongly implied that Revan attempted to conquer the galaxy in order to strengthen it in the face of a greater, impending threat. To do so, he betrayed the Republic and was responsible for the deaths millions of loyalists (although his methods during the early phase of thewar are unknown, and its quite likely that he was a good deal less inclined towards 'evil', genocidal behavior than his apprentice). Was the good his reign caused able to outweigh the bad? We won't really know until KotOR III comes out, if it ever does.

As for the Empire, Palpatine was undeniably evil; he was a ruthless, decietful mass murder and tryant who orchestrated a war that cost billions of lives, slaughtered an entire order out of personal prejudice, and dominated the entire galaxy with a regime that turned a blind eye to slavery, assassination, and genocide, all in the name of his personal power and the triumph of the Sith. However, the institution he constructed was a force of stability, and was not inherently evil. Without insane warlords or corrupt, prejudiced Moffs at its head, the Imperial Remnant under Grand Admiral Pellaeon became a relatively progressive, stable power, and played a key role in pushing back the Yuuzhan Vong invasion. Indeed, the Vong themselves admitted that an undeminished Empire with its war machine intact could have easily crushed their invasion. In that way, Palpatine's continued reign could have saved hundreds of billions of lives; the question is, would it have been worth another quarter century and more of his rule?
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Also, I thought Revan was a good guy? Sure, he killed some innocent people, but wasnt it to prepare the Republic agains the "True Sith Empire"?
From my understanding, the dark side can "encourage" lunacy. That might have been something Revan was telling himself for a time. But as Tanasinn notes, its not a simple question.
Also, I heard that the GE actually improved the workings of the Galaxy. I always saw the Rebels as the bad guys, but thats beside the point, well, anyways, I always thought Revan was good, the GE too.
Empires need good roads, and an Empire's military that relies on domience wants the biggest and best, so those that can do the biggest and best are encouraged to do so. In other words, science research is easier if it has potental military cause. While there are problems with that, it can still be easier then begging for scraps of the porkfest some researchers are forced to nowadays.

In other words, the Empire was willing to go where the Republic wasn't. Just not necessary to the better.
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Malek hid his chin while he still got it.
No he didn't. Flashbacks of Dantooine's Star Map and the Exile's vision on Korriban show Malak without his trademark metal jaw.

Back to the main point: "The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

Revan did want to help the galaxy at the start, but falling to the Dark Side tends to...skew that idea after awhile.
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Noble Ire wrote:However, the institution he constructed was a force of stability, and was not inherently evil.
Well, according to Dark Empire, the way Palpatine intended the Empire was basically just as a pool from which to feed his force powers. But I agree, that without him and this intent, it did work.
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YT300000 wrote:
Noble Ire wrote:However, the institution he constructed was a force of stability, and was not inherently evil.
Well, according to Dark Empire, the way Palpatine intended the Empire was basically just as a pool from which to feed his force powers. But I agree, that without him and this intent, it did work.
Quite; at least by the end of his life, Palpatine essentially intended on "eating" the universe, and using the Empire to claim it for him. To do that, he needed an extremely strong military and infastructural base, one that could easily be used for more benign purposes (well, at least after its leadership was sorted out, something that was no brief process; Palpatine never expected to die, and didn't really install any line solid of succession beyond Darth Vader).
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