P4hr my l33t gunnery mad skillz!

[MKSheppard]

Mr MiG goes down!



Those damn Pe-2s are tough...

As are IL-2s...



Don't walk.......RUN to your nearest computer
store to get IL-2 Sturmovik, the best Flight simulator on the market,
bar none!

[XaLEv]

My god man, that title is horrendous. P4hr? Shit.

Look at this:
PH34r my mad l33t gunzor skillz!

Look how much better that is.

[Faram]

Have it and love it!.

be sure to get the Forgotten Battles expansion

[MKSheppard]

Have it and love it!.

be sure to get the Forgotten Battles expansion

DUH.

Einhander would HATE this game. No insta-kills with the railgun...

And you have to be dead on with your aiming to hit anything...

And no easy powerups, lol. all you have is 20~ seconds of ammo
and that's it!

[Lagmonster]

That looks REALLY neat.

I always wanted to play a good flight combat sim. I spent hours drooling in the direction of that Microsoft online multiplayer spacefighter game until it tanked like a submarine made out of swiss cheese.

I spent a little time playing Battlefield: 1942 in a fighter before I realized that that wasn't as fun as it looked.

But that's about it. Since Star Wars Alliance I haven't played a good game where you can strap yourself into the cockpit of something fast and shoot your friends in the ass.

[Frank Hipper]

Have it and love it!.

be sure to get the Forgotten Battles expansion

DUH.

Einhander would HATE this game. No insta-kills with the railgun...

And you have to be dead on with your aiming to hit anything...

And no easy powerups, lol. all you have is 20~ seconds of ammo
and that's it!

In other words, it's pretty damned historically accurate. Looks like too much fun. What kind of AC selection do you have to choose from? I've had a few thoughts about a Ju87 I've always wanted to try.

[Crazy_Vasey]

is it really anal about flight model accuracy? I can never be bothered with games like that, too much effort, I just want to shoot things

[salm]

does anyone remember origin´s strike commander?

[MKSheppard]

But that's about it. Since Star Wars Alliance I haven't played a good game where you can strap yourself into the cockpit of something fast and shoot your friends in the ass.

Don't play as the early war German/Russian planes.

2 x 7.92mm MGs and 1 x 15mm MG are NOT enough to bring down
shit, much less a LaGG or MiG.

The Russians are worse off, most have just 2 x MGs in the beginning.

Later on the 109 finally gets it's teeth, with a 20mm in the nose
and then a 30mm MK 108

The FW-190 is murder, with 4 x 20mm in the wings and 2 x 7.92mm MG
in the nose

[MKSheppard]

is it really anal about flight model accuracy? I can never be bothered with games like that, too much effort, I just want to shoot things

Yes, But you can dial down the flight model accuracy if you want

I usually play with the realism settings on max, except for padlock. Dammit,
I want some leeway since I'm watching a monitor not being in the plane itself!

I play with an all black Bf-109 A/S with 25% fuel and the Mk 108 30mm nose
cannon online, since the 109 is the most friendly Axis plane to fly. The
FW-190 has more firepower and is more rugged, but it stalls/spins much easier.

[MKSheppard]

In other words, it's pretty damned historically accurate. Looks like too much fun. What kind of AC selection do you have to choose from? I've had a few thoughts about a Ju87 I've always wanted to try.

The latest patch looks like it adds a flyable Ju-87B-2 STUKA

PZL P.11c
1934 model
POLAND
FLYABLE
1.1

Polikarpov I-16 type 18
1939 model
U.S.S.R
FLYABLE
1.1

Polikarpov I-16 type 24
1939 model
U.S.S.R
FLYABLE
1.1

BI-1 "Rocket Interceptor"
1945 model
U.S.S.R
FLYABLE
1.1

I-153 "Tchayka"
1939 model
U.S.S.R
AI
1.0

IL-2, (The First Series) - Single-Seat
1941 model
U.S.S.R
FLYABLE
1.0

IL-2, (2nd Series) - Single-Seat
1941 model
U.S.S.R
FLYABLE
1.0

IL-2, (3rd Series) - Single-Seat
1941 model
U.S.S.R
FLYABLE
1.0

IL-2, (Field Modification) - Two-Seater
1941 model
U.S.S.R
FLYABLE
1.0

IL-2M (First series) - Two-Seater
1942 model
U.S.S.R
FLYABLE
1.0

IL-2M, (Later Series) - Two-Seater
1942 model
U.S.S.R
FLYABLE
1.0

IL-2 Type 3, Two-Seater
1943 model
U.S.S.R
FLYABLE
1.0

IL-2 Type 3M, Two-Seater
1943 model
U.S.S.R
FLYABLE
1.0

IL-2T, Two-Seater
1943 model
U.S.S.R
FLYABLE
1.0

IL-2I, Single Seat
1943 model
U.S.S.R
FLYABLE
1.0

La-5FN
1943 model
U.S.S.R
FLYABLE
1.0

La-7
1944 model
U.S.S.R
AI
1.0

LaGG-3
1941 model
U.S.S.R
FLYABLE
1.0

LaGG-3
1943 model
U.S.S.R
FLYABLE
1.0

LaGG-3 IT
1943 model
U.S.S.R
FLYABLE
1.0

Li-2
1939 model
U.S.S.R
AI
1.0

MBR-2
1937 model
U.S.S.R
AI
1.0

MiG-3
1940 model
U.S.S.R
FLYABLE
1.0

MiG-3U
1942 model
U.S.S.R
FLYABLE
1.0

MiG-3ud
1941 model
U.S.S.R
FLYABLE
1.0

MiG-3 (UB MG variant)
1941 model
U.S.S.R
FLYABLE
1.1

MiG-3 (ShVAK cannon variant)
1941 model
U.S.S.R
FLYABLE
1.1

MiG-3 AM-38
1941 model
U.S.S.R
FLYABLE
1.1

P-39N-1 "Airacobra"
1942 model
U.S.S.R
FLYABLE
1.0

P-39Q-1 "Airacobra"
1942 model
U.S.S.R
FLYABLE
1.0

P-39Q-10 "Airacobra"
1942 model
U.S.S.R
FLYABLE
1.0

Pe-2
1940 model
U.S.S.R
AI
1.0

Pe-2
1942 model
U.S.S.R
AI
1.0

Pe-2 (110th)
1942 model
U.S.S.R
AI
1.0

Pe-2 (359th)
1944 model
U.S.S.R
AI
1.0

Pe-3
1941 model
U.S.S.R
AI
1.0

Pe-3bis
1941 model
U.S.S.R
AI
1.0

Pe-8
1940 model
U.S.S.R
AI
1.0

R-10
1940 model
U.S.S.R
AI
1.0

TU-2S
1941 model
U.S.S.R
AI
1.0

U-2BS (LNB)
1942 model
U.S.S.R
AI
1.0

Yak-1
1941 model
U.S.S.R
FLYABLE
1.1

Yak-1B
1941 model
U.S.S.R
FLYABLE
1.0

Yak-7
1941 model
U.S.S.R
FLYABLE
1.0

Yak-9
1942 model
U.S.S.R
FLYABLE
1.2

Yak-9T "Tankoviy"
1943 model
U.S.S.R
FLYABLE
1.0

Yak-9K "Krupnokaliberniy"
1943 model
U.S.S.R
FLYABLE
1.0

Yak-9U "Uluchshenny"
1943 model
U.S.S.R
FLYABLE
1.0

Yak-9D
1943 model
U.S.S.R
FLYABLE
1.2

Yak-3
1943 model
U.S.S.R
FLYABLE
1.0

G-11
1943 model
U.S.S.R
AI
1.0


Bf-109E-4 "Emil" ("Emil")
1940 model
GERMAN
FLYABLE
1.1

Bf-109E-4/B "Jabo" ("Fighter-bomber")
1940 model
GERMAN
FLYABLE
1.1

Bf-109E-7/B "Emil" ("Emil")
1940 model
GERMAN
FLYABLE
1.1

Bf-109E-7/Z "Emil"
1941 model
GERMAN
FLYABLE
1.2

Bf-109F-2 "Friedrich"
1941 model
GERMAN
FLYABLE
1.0

Bf-109F-4 "Friedrich"
1941 model
GERMAN
FLYABLE
1.1

Bf-109G-2 "Gustav"
1942 model
GERMAN
FLYABLE
1.0

Bf-109G-6 "Gustav"
1943 model
GERMAN
FLYABLE
1.0

Bf-109G-6 late "Gustav"
1944 model
GERMAN
FLYABLE
1.0

Bf-109G-6/AS "Gustav"
1944 model
GERMAN
FLYABLE
1.0

Bf-109K-4 "Kurfurst"
1944 model
GERMAN
AI
1.0

Fi-156 "Storch"
1939 model
GERMAN
AI
1.0

FW-189 A-2 "Uhu"
1942 model
GERMAN
AI
1.0

FW-190 A-4
1942 model
GERMAN
FLYABLE
1.0

FW-190 A-5
1943 model
GERMAN
FLYABLE
1.1

FW-190 A-8
1944 model
GERMAN
FLYABLE
1.1

FW-190 D-9
1944 model
GERMAN
AI
1.0

He-111H-2
1942 model
GERMAN
AI
1.0

He-111Z "Zwilling"
1942 model
GERMAN
AI
1.0

Hs-129B-2
1943 model
GERMAN
AI
1.0

Hs-129B-3/Wa "Waffentraeger"
1944 model
GERMAN
AI
1.0

I.A.R. 80
1940 model
GERMAN
AI
1.0

I.A.R. 81
1941 model
GERMAN
AI
1.0

Ju-52
1939 model
GERMAN
AI
1.0

Ju-88A
1939 model
GERMAN
AI
1.0

Ju-87B-2 "Stuka"
1944 model
GERMAN
FLYABLE
1.2

Ju-87D-3 "Stuka"
1941 model
GERMAN
AI
1.0

Ju-87G-1 "Stuka"
1943 model
GERMAN
AI
1.0

MC-202 "Folgore"
1942 model
GERMAN
AI
1.0

Me-321 "Giant"
1941 model
GERMAN
AI
1.0

Me-323 "Giant"
1942 model
GERMAN
AI
1.0

[MKSheppard]

http://www.cfspilots.50megs.com/images/ ... ights3.jpg
http://www.cfspilots.50megs.com/images/ ... ights3.jpg
SEARCHLIGHTS!


http://www.cfspilots.50megs.com/images/ ... unner1.jpg

FLYABLE HE-111 with gunner positions!


NEW AIRCRAFT
In addition to all IL-2 Sturmovik aircraft and IL-2 Sturmovik free add-ons aircraft already released, here are the new aircraft:
(in red the VVS and Allies aircraft, in blue the LW and Axis aircraft)



Flyable

Ju-87D-3 Two seat dive bomber / ground attack aircraft
Ju-87G-1 Two seat tank buster / ground attack aircraft
Bf-109G-14 Fighter
Bf-109G-10 Fighter
Bf-109K-4 Fighter
FW-190D-9 Fighter. 1944 model
FW-190D-9 Fighter. 1945 model with MW50
FW-190F-8 Fighter-bomber
FW-190A-9 Fighter
He-111H-2 Multi-crewed bomber
He-111H-6 Multi-crewed bomber / torpedo bomber
Me-262A-1a Jet fighter
Me-262A-2a Jet fighter-bomber
B-239 (Brewster Buffalo F2A) Fighter. Finnish Air Force
Hurricane Mk I Fighter Finnish Air Force
TB-3 Multi-crewed bomber
La-5 Fighter
La-5F Fighter
La-7 2x20mm ShVAK cannons Fighter
La-7 3x20mm B-20 cannons Fighter
I-153 M-62 Fighter
I-153P Fighter
Hurricane Mk IIB Fighter
Hurricane Mk IIC Fighter
Hurricane Mk II with Russian cannons and MGs Fighter
P-47D-10 Fighter / fighter-bomber
P-47D-27 Fighter / fighter-bomber
P-40E Fighter
P-40M Fighter
P-40 field mode with Soviet M-105P engine Fighter


AI

Bristol Blenheim MK I Bomber. Finnish Air Force
Bristol Blenheim MK IV Bomber. Finnish Air Force
Fiat G.50 Fighter. Finnish Air Force
Morane MS.406 Fighter. Finnish Air Force
Morane MS.410 Fighter. Finnish Air Force
Mörkö Morane Fighter. Finnish Air Force.
Equipped with Soviet engine M-105P, captured by Germans and sold in Finland
IL-4 1942 Long range bomber / torpedo bomber
IL-4 (DB-3F) 1940 Long range bomber
SB-2 M-100 Bomber
SB-2 M-103 Bomber
DB-3 Long range bomber
DB-3T Torpedo Bomber
DB-3M Long range bomber
P-51D Fighter. USAAF
Su-2 Close support Bomber
PBY-Catalina Sea plane
Bf-110C Heavy fighter and fighter bomber
Bf-110G Heavy fighter and fighter bomber
Me-210Ca-1 Heavy fighter and fighter-bomber. Hungarian Air Force
Me-210Ca-1 Zerstörer Formation destroyer / ground attack.
Hungarian Air Force. In additional to standard cannons 1x40mm, 2x3 150mm rockets
Ar-196A-3 Sea plane

In total with IL-2:FB and IL-2 installation you'll get 119 aircraft, at least 80 of which are flyable!

REALISTIC / COMPLEX ENGINE MANAGEMENT

Controlling Multi-Engine Aircraft
When flying a multi-engine aircraft, you have an option to control its engines separately.
You may choose the engines you wish to control using engine selection keys found in the Controls menu.
Your current engine controls (e.g. throttle, prop and mix positions, radiator set-up, e.t.c.) apply only to the engine(s) you have selected.
Note that if you enabled the Separate Engine Start key in the Difficulty settings, you will not be allowed to start all of the engines simultaneously, and have to select them for ignition one by one.

Advanced Engine Controls
The engine control routines have been reworked and expanded for the Forgotten Battles; you now have more detailed control over your engines, with more realistic feedback. However, some tasks (like engine start-up procedure) remain simplified and usually performed with a single keystroke.

Throttle Control
Throttle control remains essentially the same it was prior to Forgotten Battles. Yet now you may push it farther than Combat Power (100%) to force your engine into the War Emergency Power (Emergency) mode (up to 110%). Note that there is no Power 110 keyboard shortcut, so you'll have to use Increase Engine Power control key (keyboard + by default) to gain War Emergency Power (Emergency) when controlling throttle with keyboard.

Emergency Power
A number of aircraft modeled in the game have special systems allowing an engine to gain advanced performance over a short period of time (alike the notorious nitrous oxide injection system). These systems vary the principle of operation, but for all aircraft so equipped they may be engaged using the Boost (WEP) On/Off control button:

Special Emergency Power for aircraft such as FW-190A-8, FW-190A-9, FW-190F-8 FW-190D-9 1944

MW-50 (Water-Methanol injection) for aircraft such as FW-190D-9 1945, Bf-109G6/AS, Bf-109G-14, Bf-109G-10 and Bf-109K-4

GM-1 (High-altitude nitrous oxide injection system) for aircraft such as Bf-109E-7/Z

Water injection device for cooling down engine of P-47D-10 and P-47D-27 at emergency power of engine.

Supercharger Control
High-altitude engines are equipped with superchargers or turbochargers of different design. While many of those are automatic, others have manual control.
In this case, you have to use "Supercharger Next Stage" and "Supercharger Prev. Stage" to adjust the supercharger gear as the flight altitude changes. Most of the chargers are 2-stage, and only require one shift up of the gear when passing altitude at around 2500 meters.
This function will not work for the planes, that had fully automatic pitch or stages of superchargers (for Example Bf-109 or FW-190).

Mixture Control
Most of the engines allow the pilot to adjust mixture richness manually. While the nominal position of this control (Auto Rich) should provide normal engine operation in all flight configurations, some input may be required on high altitude or when the engine has taken battle damage. It is common to use increased (Full Rich) set-up during take-off or as a means of Emergency Power.

Radiator Control
New to Forgotten Battles is advanced radiator control. In Advanced Engine Controls difficulty mode you now have 5 cowl or radiator flap positions to provide more accurate control over it, plus, on the aircraft so equipped, you may put the radiator flap in automatic mode.

Propeller Pitch Control
The way of controlling the Prop. Pitch and keys used remain the same as before the Forgotten Battles, with the addition of Increase Prop. Pitch and Decrease Prop. Pitch control keys for a more convenient and accurate propeller control.
However, the propeller governor routines has been reworked to achieve a more detailed and accurate model, plus several governor mechanism types were added.

Fixed Propeller
Some older airplanes found in the game (like TB-3) are equipped with simple fixed pitch wooden propellers. Those, of course, have no automation or control, and require no pilot input.

Variable Pitch Propeller
These propellers have variable airscrew blade incidence. In this case, Prop. Pitch Control directly varies the airscrew blade pitch, and needs to be adjusted constantly as the airplane speed changes. Note that setting the blades pitch too low may result in engine over revving.
Note that there was special equipment on the Bf-109 (F, G and K series) and FW-190 fighters providing automatic propeller control, however the pilot may input the changes of pitch and adjust blade angles manually whenever he finds necessary.

Constant Speed Propeller
The most advanced, yet most common through the aircraft of the WWII era was the Constant Speed Propeller. In this case, pilot uses the Prop. Control to set desired engine RPM, while the propeller governor attempts to maintain the set RPM.

Aeromechanical Screw
This type of airscrew uses balance of aero dynamical forces and propeller inertia to maintain optimal blade incidence. Thus, it requires no input from the pilot.

Propeller Feathering
Some propellers provide an option to 'feather' its blades that is to turn the blades parallel the airflow to reduce the drag. That becomes essential when an engine fails in-flight.

Magneto Control
Piston aviation engines use magnetos to drive the spark plugs. There are two magnetos, left and right, and normally both operate. However, you may set which is working using Magneto Next and Magneto Prev. control keys, or switch them off to shut down the engine.

Extinguisher Control
A number of aircraft, mostly large airships, had built-in fire extinguishers in the engine compartment. On the aircraft so equipped, you may fire the extinguishers on the selected engines using Fire Extinguisher control key. However, this doesn't guarantee to put out the engine, and the extinguisher has only a limited number of charges.
Level Bomber bombsights for multi-crewed aircraft of the Forgotten Battles
The Forgotten Battles introduces the level bomber bombsights. With the release there will be present Lotfe 3D bombsight of He-111H-2 and H-6 and OPB-1 optical bombsight for Soviet early war bombers, like TB-3.

[MKSheppard]

Horten Ho-229 for the Luft 1946 Campaign addon!


Hawker Tempest

Go here to see the latest updates of Addon planes for IL-2:

http://www.il2center.com/

[Thunderfire]

I.A.R. are romanian
and the MC-202 is italian AFAIK.
The PZL P.11c is a pretty "tough" plane. This often takes
an insane amout of 30mm/37mm round to kill. IL2 FB
should be out in a month.

[Frank Hipper]

* looks at list o' planes* OH. MY. GOD. You can fly a Pe.8? A He. 111Z? Holy tookah that sounds fun!

[Soulman]

Mmmmm, LaGG-3....

[MKSheppard]

does anyone remember origin´s strike commander?

Oh hell yes. The CD version was SO much better than the floppy version.

[HemlockGrey]

What's the system reqs?

[Sea Skimmer]

I want a damn La-11, fuck history.

[Alyrium Denryle]

PH34r my mad l33t gunzor skillz!

PH34r /\/\y m4d 133t g1_11/\20r 51<i11z

[The Dark]

Looks like a good game...what sort of vid car does it need? I'm pissed because my new computer can't play European Air War (some idiot decided my computer wouldn't need to run 8-bit graphics, which is what EAW uses for ground and sky mapping).

[Icehawk]

Horten Ho-229 for the Luft 1946 Campaign addon!

*Drools* Im so picking up this game!

[PeZook]

I'd second Hemlock's question, but judging from the screenshots, it won't work on my computer anyways.

Besides, I prefer supersonic fighters

[Thunderfire]

wait for the expansion. The expansion will be full priced.
You don't need IL2 to run IL2 Forgotten Battles. An uptodate
PC with a GF3 or better and atleast 512MB should be able to
run FB pretty well.

[Admiral Valdemar]

Hmm, reminds me of B-17 Fling Fortress: The Mighty Eigth which is super realistic too but limited in planes to fly and campaigns.

I prefer dogfights to bombers more.

Also that Hawker Tempest pic, wasn't the Tempest the radial engined brother of the Typhoon or did the earlier ones have the same engine config? I always forget this.