STGOD: A Dead Art?

[Adrian Laguna]

I oppose back-up powers. If you lose a war you should take it like a man.

[SirNitram]

I oppose back-up powers. If you lose a war you should take it like a man.

What the blue blazes does that mean? There's always been a chance to roll in with a new power. Since well before you joined STGODing, in fact.

[Covenant]

I oppose back-up powers. If you lose a war you should take it like a man.

You do take it like a man, and your old power fades into obscurity as future Museum filler. However, STGODS is not Command&Conquer. You don't 'win' by killing off everyone else. The idea is to play out this little shared world, and generally to do so in combat since that's fun, but there should be no latent desire to remove other players from the game. You should act in-character and within the bounds of diplomacy and reason, and not seek out ways to kill off other nations merely to leave your race as the last player-controlled one standing.

Backup powers may seem silly, but they're not 'extra lives'. A backup power might ally with the guy who obliterated his old one, for example. If my Dinosaurs get obliterated in a massive war, I might make a human nation, for something different, or something like that. It's about fun, not about victory.

[Adrian Laguna]

I oppose back-up powers. If you lose a war you should take it like a man.

What the blue blazes does that mean? There's always been a chance to roll in with a new power. Since well before you joined STGODing, in fact.

I know. Doesn't mean I have to like it, now does it?

[Spyder]

I oppose back-up powers. If you lose a war you should take it like a man.

What the blue blazes does that mean? There's always been a chance to roll in with a new power. Since well before you joined STGODing, in fact.

I know. Doesn't mean I have to like it, now does it?

Rerolling a new power is taking it like a man. If anything people that are prepared to do that make the game more interesting because it doesn't encourage people to be as protective of their precious little empires.

[SirNitram]

I oppose back-up powers. If you lose a war you should take it like a man.

What the blue blazes does that mean? There's always been a chance to roll in with a new power. Since well before you joined STGODing, in fact.

I know. Doesn't mean I have to like it, now does it?

No, but you can stop the psudeo-macho 'TAKE IT LIKE A MAN' bullshit, kiddo.

[Adrian Laguna]

No, but you can stop the psudeo-macho 'TAKE IT LIKE A MAN' bullshit, kiddo.

*shrug*

Wasn't an entirely serious comment.

[Adrian Laguna]

EDIT: Added Adrian Laguna to the quick reference guide. By my count you have 21 points left to spend. BTW do you have a map location yet?

I suggest you check my 6th class ships again.

[Starglider]

EDIT: Added Adrian Laguna to the quick reference guide. By my count you have 21 points left to spend. BTW do you have a map location yet?

I suggest you check my 6th class ships again.

Corrected.

[Adrian Laguna]

Oh, and relating to the map location I'm half-way between Noble Ire and Beowulf. The Moorish states would be below me.

[Thirdfain]

Are the NGTO going to respond to the assorted declarations anytime soon? It's been forever.

[Dark Hellion]

How much time has passed since the fleet build-up began? I would like to see some political ramifications coming about because of this, as I am currently unable to do anything because I only have 1 courier vessel, my Emissary, 2 Terrordrones and 2 Siegedrones free to do anything, as everything else has to stay stationed because of the massive fleet.

I may make a second power so I can play some more as I currently don't have many options until something breaks.

[Thirdfain]

What are you talking about? Most options don't involve moving warships around. Diplomatize! Send out spies! Negotiatize!

[Starglider]

Are the NGTO going to respond to the assorted declarations anytime soon? It's been forever.

What kind of response are you expecting?

The NGTO is conducting its fleet training exercises in Nephilim space, due to their apparent vulnerability to Herald hostility. A willingness to allow an investigatory team to look around has been expressed, but no one seems to have despatched one yet. You've declared that you're allied with the Heralds, which is fine, then you've arrogantly declared that you don't want other nations to do joint fleet exercises in their own space, which has been quite rightly ignored. You've then proceeded to smuggle nukes to African terrorists. AFAIK game time is proceeding as normal.

[Thirdfain]

Arrogantly? Well, duh

I was hoping, however, for some sort of official statement on the matter.

-edit- and those are African freedom fighters, not terrorists

[Starglider]

How much time has passed since the fleet build-up began?

I get the impression we're six to eight weeks into the game (discounting a month plus of pregame stuff), so about a month I suppose, though I may be mistaken on this.

I would like to see some political ramifications coming about because of this,

There have been plenty. You're not blockaded. A border opposite you has just been reinforced due to your 'obvious' aggressive tendencies. You have as many options as anyone else.

I was hoping, however, for some sort of official statement on the matter.

Perhaps various people are waiting for an official statement of whether you're going to pay reparations to the League for destroying one of their ships and return the diplomatic ships you illegally seized from a sovereign Kingdom.

[Thirdfain]

Perhaps various people are waiting for an official statement of whether you're going to pay reparations to the League for destroying one of their ships and return the diplomatic ships you illegally seized from a sovereign Kingdom.

Um, is that even a response to my question? Keep the in-game sniping, um, in-game. If you want to criticize my just actions, feel free to do so in the game thread. This is not the place, dude.

-edit- Hmm, I feel like I've touched a nerve or something

[Starglider]

Seriously, there's plenty of players who haven't done anything yet, perhaps we should give them a chance to make a move. You and to a lesser extent the NGTO players have done far more than anyone else so far.

[Thirdfain]

Seriously, there's plenty of players who haven't done anything yet, perhaps we should give them a chance to make a move. You and to a lesser extent the NGTO players have done far more than anyone else so far.

Um, we've had weeks of only moderate action going on. I've started a vote in the Coalition, and there's the scuttlebutt in Africa, and I don't intend on sitting on my thumbs.

[Academia Nut]

Is it wrong to be tempted to just go bugfuck crazy on some poor bastard just to get something going? Because currently my main diplomatic session is kind of dragging along due to real life issues amongst the guys I'm playing with.

[Thirdfain]

Go bugfuck crazy.
Or get invovled in the clusterfuck in Africa
Or deal with the evil aliens eating the universe from outside, Them.

[Redleader34]

How good are orbital sensors, could an orbital Sensor grid be used to detect nuclear material, for example, or track all ships near a countries's borders. And could I monitor an entire countries coms if I am the legitimate government? Just a curiosity, before Operation STFU begins.

Oh thirdfan, would any of your mercs still be in the country, I may have to make some scapegoats to execute publicly while I show how I took over, again.

[Starglider]

Incidentally I've been working on a long RP post with nt01jones, which is mostly why I haven't done any CON stuff, but there have been some delays, hopefully it will be up soon.

[SirNitram]

How good are orbital sensors, could an orbital Sensor grid be used to detect nuclear material, for example, or track all ships near a countries's borders. And could I monitor an entire countries coms if I am the legitimate government? Just a curiosity, before Operation STFU begins.

Pick up nuclear material? That's fairly ridiculous. Tracking all sea traffic is equally unlikely.

[Starglider]

How good are orbital sensors, could an orbital Sensor grid be used to detect nuclear material,

Pick up nuclear material? That's fairly ridiculous.

I don't know why you'd try and do this from orbit anyway. Current day sensor technology is apparently good enough to have a high chance of catching attempts to smuggle weapons into the US, according to Stuart anyway, and I expect sensor quality has improved since then. However, that's for a pretty industrialised and built up country and AFAIK pretty much assumes the weapons are coming in through ports or customs points, not cross-country. I don't know if Redleader has comparable infrastructure across all of Africa.

for example, or track all ships near a countries's borders.

Tracking all sea traffic is equally unlikely.

That's perfectly plausible IMHO. The Soviets launched marine tracking satellites with nuclear-powered active radar starting from 1967. Current camera resolution is sufficient to track all surface vessels by visual and IR imaging (subject to weather limitations), there just aren't enough cameras up there to track everything. With lots of stations and satellites all major nations should be able to do this unless the ships have some sort of advanced camouflage (and avoiding radar as well as hiding the IR signature will probably take military grade tech).

And could I monitor an entire countries coms if I am the legitimate government? Just a curiosity, before Operation STFU begins.

The US has been able to do this to hostile countries for decades. You use satellites for radio (and presumably FTL) signals and network taps for hardline monitoring. However anything of any consequence will be heavily encrypted and sifting the relevant info out of the enormous mass of data flying around is already very hard, and likely only to get worse.