Are you familiar with the term "Omega-level mutant"? It's short hand for "we'll let the writer wank the character out as much as he or she wants to and still keep in line with canon." Limitless potential.havokeff wrote:Please provide evidence of your conclusion, of how Storm can manipulate the weather, which is what she does, to get lightning to strike faster than Cyclops can hit a button on his palm?Also, Storm would conceivably toss lightning bolts faster than Cyclops can move his head. Drop one per square foot for forty feet in every direction and all the spidey sense in the world won't help him. Unless of course it warns him far enough in advance to avoid someone who can control the weather. Storm's a fucking Omega-level. She's nearly a god.
And jeebus. While you were on Wiki, did you read about Spider-Man at all? How about what his spider-sense does. It WARNS HIM OF DANGER. One lightning strike or one per square foot for forty feet, he is going to know about it, and YES avoid it.
In regards to Cyclops, he also needs to aim his head. Even if it were his eyes and that's it Spiderman is fast enough to avoid a look.
So how is he going to dodge something with the kind of spread? Especially when each attack is nearly simultaneous. Besides, unless I completely misunderstand Storm's powers she can just make Spiderman himself charged differently enough from the atmosphere that no amount of Spidey-sense short of "At X time and Y date Storm will make it so you are going to get hit by lightning." will save him. His best chance with what is, essentially, a demi-god, is to take it out before it even knows you're a threat.The thing with Spider-Man, is that he has actually stayed pretty steady over the years when it comes to his abilities. Aside from Cosmic Spidey that is.I'd like to see a good indication on just how much lightning he can dodge at once. I don't follow the comic close enough to see just how obscenely wanked the guy has gotten. If he can dodge a shitload of lightning like that he should build himself a lightsaber and go Jedi Master on some asses.
He has always been fast enough to dodge bullets, lightning, optic blasts etc.. He can jump straight up at least 2 or 3 stories. He can throw cars. Like I said earlier, he can run almost 90 mph. He has practicaly perfect balance, he can stick to walls, he can lift/press 10 tons, which is actually more now. 15 I think.
Writers over the years have been pretty decent in staying within these guide lines. His abillities and powers have been fleshed out and explained a little more and he has improved on his skills combining and creating new ones, but that should be expected of someone as intelligent as Peter Parker.
Actually Spidey is usually taken for granted by the rest of the Marvel Super Heroes as a light weight, on par with the likes of Dare Devil, since so much of his history has been fighting normal humans like muggers, bank robbers or his "theme" villans.
In regards to dodging bullets, the Wikipedia page says he needs to be far enough away. Unless you can point out a time when he's dodged at close range (preferably including a picture and the comic it happened in) I'm just seeing claims about his abilities with nothing but your own say-so. I'll back down if you show me when and where he's dodged the kinds of things someone like Storm can bring down on him.
More on Storm's abilities: "Storm has also shown that she can transcend into a goddess-like elemental being when properly provoked." Unsourced and I haven't heard of that till now. Grain of salt.
In regards to her power level: "Storm's abilities are limited by her willpower and the strength of her body"
From marvel.com: "Storm’s control over the atmosphere is such that she can create certain effects over a specific area while shielding smaller areas within that region. For example, she can create a rainstorm around herself but prevent the raindrops from touching her. Storm can also create atmospheric phenomena over very small areas, such as creating a rainstorm small enough to water a single potted plant." and "The limit to the size of the area over which Storm can manipulate the weather is not yet known. However, she once diverted the jet stream so as to create storms over the entire East Coast of the United States. She can create weather effects within indoor areas or within artificially maintained environments. Storm is limited by the force of her will and the strength of her body. It once took her several hours to stop a savage blizzard sweeping over much of Canada, and she nearly died from exhaustion in the process." Link.
Not to ommit her limitations: "Storm can only manipulate weather patterns as they exist in nature. For example, she can end a drought in one area by creating torrential rains there, but that would necessitate robbing all available moisture from the surrounding areas. Storm is not able to create atmospheric conditions that do not exist naturally on the planet she is on. For example, Storm is unable to lower temperatures as far as absolute zero or raise them to solar intensities on Earth." (And she's claustrophobic, which Spiderman could take advantage of. Unfortunately if she loses control of her fear she may well go overboard and drop and F5 or two on whatever is confining her.)
Spiderman would need to take her down immediately to have a chance. Peter Parker's smart enough to pull it off, yes. But the margin of error is very slim. Especially with Professor X and Jean there to mentally rape him.
How hard is it to pay attention to the thread and previous posts. This is Spider-Man circa 1984 vs Professor X, Cyclops, Storm, Colossus, Rogue, Nightcrawler and Wolverine circa 1984, on the Secret Wars Battleworld. No Omega-Level mutants, no Rogue with Sunfire's power and no Phoenix/Jean Grey/Marvel Girl present. He isn't fighting every X-Man that ever existed. 
