[Discussion] So when did the rules change?

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2007-07-26 08:00pm

THREADS:

4. Wheeeeee - The rest of the time this place is for fun, and pretending to be crooked politicians, so if it doesn't carry a Serious thread label Crack on and have fun.

So why has the good admin Ozymandias decided to lock this thread which unquestionably contains acceptable content under Thread Rule #4 of the Senate?

Have the Senate rules been changed? If so, the text of the posted rules should be altered forewith. I will give the honourable admin the benefit of the doubt and assume this is the case, but because the text of the rules has not been altered (presumably to reflect the highly serious nature of the Senate, or something), it is very confusing.

Oh, and I'll add that this thread is also quite legitimate under the rules, re:

4. Democracy in inaction - You, yes you lucky few, get to discuss board policy! You can float your own idea's for discussion, you can float your friends idea's if you wish, and when the Mods make a policy decision you get to comment on it. And unlike anyone else that might discuss/comment on it, you actually get to have an impact. Go you!

So of course this is a legitimate thread to discuss a policy decision.

Which begs the question, what precisely was that policy decision, and why wasn't anyone notified?

Post by **Beowulf** » 2007-07-26 08:04pm

Because he's a hardass with no sense of humor.

Pablo Sanchez · Post by **Pablo Sanchez** » 2007-07-27 01:36am

I think the problem is that there's a difference of opinion as to what constitutes good clean Imperial fun. And Ozymandias, god bless him, decided that your thread wasn't very much fun. And he, being by the grace of Wong Despot of Forums, has an opinion that counts for more than yours.

lol, sry!

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2007-07-27 02:22am

Pablo Sanchez wrote:I think the problem is that there's a difference of opinion as to what constitutes good clean Imperial fun. And Ozymandias, god bless him, decided that your thread wasn't very much fun. And he, being by the grace of Wong Despot of Forums, has an opinion that counts for more than yours.

lol, sry!

I really think that's a matter for Robbo to decide, Pablo.

And frankly it seems to be the problem that people take my hilarious melodramatic declaimations far, far to seriously for their own good. I DO have a sense of humour, which I use often.

P.S. I don't care because I have the final victory, as your use of testing abbreviations has damned you to HELL as Cthulhu's GAY TENTACLE RAPE victim.

Pablo Sanchez · Post by **Pablo Sanchez** » 2007-07-27 03:31am

The Duchess of Zeon wrote:I really think that's a matter for Robbo to decide, Pablo.

An empty proposal, Rob is absent. In his absence, his duties in the senate devolve to the senior administration staff, e.g. the handful of admins like Ozymandias.

And frankly it seems to be the problem that people take my hilarious melodramatic declamations far, far to seriously for their own good. I DO have a sense of humour, which I use often.

Well, I think in this case the difference is that you started a brand new thread just to have a laugh, whereas people might think that the "have fun" clause of the Senate handbook refers to joking around in threads established for actual business.

P.S. I don't care because I have the final victory, as your use of testing abbreviations has damned you to HELL as Cthulhu's GAY TENTACLE RAPE victim.

*yawn* Nope.

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2007-07-27 04:40am

Pablo Sanchez wrote:
Well, I think in this case the difference is that you started a brand new thread just to have a laugh, whereas people might think that the "have fun" clause of the Senate handbook refers to joking around in threads established for actual business.

Sea Skimmer's joke "budget" thread is explicitly mentioned and linked to in the rules as an example of an acceptable form of fun.

If that is the justification, then you're simply wrong.

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2007-07-27 04:42am

THREADS

1. Clear as mud - As mentioned in above, you guys get to discuss board policy, and discuss points raised by others. You can also air any problems you may believe exists that needs addressed. There are doubtless other types of thread that will come into existance on the Forum, so they need a heads up in the title :

[Discussion] = a talk about board policies.
[Point] = A point of interest either your own or one that has been passed to you for discussion by an other board member (remember Rule 4).
[Problem?] = Something you feel is wrong and needs to be debated or cleared up. However it should be something that can only be mentioned here (board software issues are handled in OT for instance).
[Vote] = These will only be started by Governors and above in the case of serious votes.
[Voted] = A vote thread that is closed. When the title of a poll is amended to this, then too late the poll is closed.
[Member] - Thread for nominating new members. A new one every 2nd of the month.
[Poll] = Something silly, a perfect example would be Skimmer's Budget Poll thread. the Board automatically adds this so you don't need to worry.

I'm sorry if this was a misconception but it seemed like it was being actively encouraged by that section of the rules, so I think it was a pretty understandable one.

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2007-07-27 05:18am

Hey, look, Pablo, I don't plan on continuing to make threads remotely like that or anything of the sort after this, and as far as I'm concerned the actual issue itself is closed in Ozymandias' favour, but I'm just genuinely bothered by how damn confusing that is because the rules seemed to be very clear-cut in encouraging it. So if the administration of the board doesn't approve, please edit the rules to make that clear, since they seem to give the exact opposite impression right now. Because I read that as "go right ahead and create all the silly threads you want".

Capsaicin · Post by **Capsaicin** » 2007-07-27 08:27am

The fact still remains that, in Rob's absence, the admins make decisions in the Senate. As we are all different people, I think it is to be expected that we would not necessarily make exactly the same decisions Rob might have made were he present.

It was a judgement call, Ozymandias has the authority, and he has made his decision. It's done.

Pablo Sanchez · Post by **Pablo Sanchez** » 2007-07-27 12:25pm

The Duchess of Zeon wrote: If that is the justification, then you're simply wrong.

No love for the Elim reference? ASVS represent?

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2007-07-27 03:10pm

Pablo Sanchez wrote:
The Duchess of Zeon wrote: If that is the justification, then you're simply wrong.
No love for the Elim reference? ASVS represent?

Unlike you and your record of dozens of excellent fanfiction which... All stops at the fifth chapter... I actually tend to finish mine. And write sequels. Since I'm a woman I invariably do this while multitasking (we're better at it than you are) about nine other things, one of which is firing off replies to you in this thread over something which ranked at around in the bottom 5% of my tasks for yesterday, namely, a minor procedural issue in the Senate like this.

Anyhow, yeah. I confess I didn't make the connection. But now I've mentally started thinking about you as "Five Chapter Sanchez", which frankly entirely makes up for that oversight. To me.

Post by **Dalton** » 2007-07-27 09:27pm

Hahaha, Five-Chapter Sanchez! I think it'll stick. Along with Five-Second Pablo.

Pablo Sanchez · Post by **Pablo Sanchez** » 2007-07-28 12:37am

Dalton wrote:Hahaha, Five-Chapter Sanchez! I think it'll stick. Along with Five-Second Pablo.

At my skill level five seconds is enough for me to bring a woman to climax--to pick an example out of a hat, your mother--three or four times. No, wait, I meant three or four HUNDRED times. Ain't a woman alive who can handle me for more than a few seconds at a time.

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2007-07-28 03:05am

Pablo Sanchez wrote:
Dalton wrote:Hahaha, Five-Chapter Sanchez! I think it'll stick. Along with Five-Second Pablo.
At my skill level five seconds is enough for me to bring a woman to climax--to pick an example out of a hat, your mother--three or four times. No, wait, I meant three or four HUNDRED times. Ain't a woman alive who can handle me for more than a few seconds at a time.

Don't you mean Thai Crossdressers? I mean, why else would you use the entire Senatorial travel budget for trips to Bangkok, denying us a chance to assemble a junket to Bermuda?

Pablo Sanchez · Post by **Pablo Sanchez** » 2007-07-28 03:13am

The Duchess of Zeon wrote:Don't you mean Thai Crossdressers? I mean, why else would you use the entire Senatorial travel budget for trips to Bangkok, denying us a chance to assemble a junket to Bermuda?

I can't be encapsulated by your simple definitions of sexuality. Labels like "perversion" or "paraphilia" collapse in the face of my limitless ardor!

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2007-07-28 03:21am

Pablo Sanchez wrote:
The Duchess of Zeon wrote:Don't you mean Thai Crossdressers? I mean, why else would you use the entire Senatorial travel budget for trips to Bangkok, denying us a chance to assemble a junket to Bermuda?
I can't be encapsulated by your simple definitions of sexuality. Labels like "perversion" or "paraphilia" collapse in the face of my limitless ardor!

Freeze-dried and vacuum-sealed for all time, this statement shall stand without further comment.

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » 2007-07-28 03:51am

There's an obvious solution to this problem. I propose we make Marina an admin.

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2007-07-28 03:55am

Spyder wrote:There's an obvious solution to this problem. I propose we make Marina an admin.

*stares*

...

WHAT?

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » 2007-07-28 05:41am

Well why not?

It's not hard and there's plenty of other ones to cover if you need time off.

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2007-07-28 05:50am

There are lots of strange opinions out there about what I'm like, but Spyder somehow deciding to support me to be an admin is possibly the weirdest response to my existence I've ever gotten on this message board.

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » 2007-07-28 05:59am

That's why it'll work.

Chris OFarrell · Post by **Chris OFarrell** » 2007-07-28 09:43am

*looks around thread*

....

I ain't touching this with a ten foot pole.

Post by **Coyote** » 2007-07-28 11:09am

Pablo Sanchez wrote:
The Duchess of Zeon wrote:I really think that's a matter for Robbo to decide, Pablo.
An empty proposal, Rob is absent. In his absence, his duties in the senate devolve to the senior administration staff, e.g. the handful of admins like Ozymandias...

Actually, since Rob is the chief of the Mess, and I am his deputy, then in Rob's absence his powers and responsibilities fall to... ME!!!111oneone

**[SEIZES POWER]**

"The Royal Guard shall haul out all the casks of rum, brandy, wine and mead and open them; slaughter and roast the lambs! Dancers shall dance, and sex slaves issued to all! Free porn will be handed out, and an endless feast is to be begun! The watchword of the day is debauchery!!! There shall be humping in the hallways, humping in the foyer, humping... well, pretty much anywhere. The whole palace is rigged with webcams so the revenues from the downloads alone will keep us well-funded.

Friday will be "Hawaiian Shirt Day".

Post by **Beowulf** » 2007-07-28 01:08pm

Coup d'etat time! Fear the Mess!

Post by **Dalton** » 2007-07-28 03:18pm

Coyote wrote:"The Royal Guard shall haul out all the casks of rum, brandy, wine and mead and open them; slaughter and roast the lambs! Dancers shall dance, and sex slaves issued to all! Free porn will be handed out, and an endless feast is to be begun! The watchword of the day is debauchery!!! There shall be humping in the hallways, humping in the foyer, humping... well, pretty much anywhere. The whole palace is rigged with webcams so the revenues from the downloads alone will keep us well-funded.

Friday will be "Hawaiian Shirt Day".

How is that any different from what we're doing now?