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Does anyone mind me giving short posts in the frame of someone flipping through news channles, I htought it would be clever :)
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I've got no problem with it, although I think it's highly unlikely that a massive stock market crash would result from an attack which was ultimately utterly unsuccessful, especially considering what a massive source of wealth the huge concentration of industry in the Sol region represents. Moreover, it certainly wouldn't mean that your internal trade would increase massively overnight. A lot of Sol->Sector trade conglomorates would have to go bankrupt or drastically change their operations firest.
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CCS Casualties of the First Battle of Sol
  • Saber: Minimal damage
  • Ichigo Kurosaki: Minimal damage
  • Rukia Kuchiki: Moderate damage
  • Amuro Ray: Moderate damage
  • Char Aznable: Minimal damage
  • Heero Yuy: DESTROYED
  • Zechs Merquise: Heavy damage
  • Johnny Yong Bosch: Moderate damage
  • Stephanie Sheh: Moderate damage
  • Yuri Lowenthal: Heavy damage
  • Tara Platt: Heavy damage
  • Kirby Morrow: Heavy damage
  • Kelly Sheridan: Heavy damage
  • Eric Vale: DESTROYED
  • Laura Bailey: DESTROYED
Saber, Kurosaki, and Aznable can have all their necessary repairs performed out in the field. Kuchiki, Ray, Bosch, and Sheh might need at least a day in dry dock to finish their repairs, while Merquise, Lowenthal, Platt, Morrow, and Sheridan will need a month at the absolute most. Yuy, Vale, and Bailey can be salvaged and rebuilt.

All in all, one destroyer and two frigates lost. Tell me if these terms are unacceptable.
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Given the strength of the combined earth forces compared to the space monsters!!!!! you shouldn't really have to lose ships, you should have just blown the ever living fuck outta the ships you shoot up. Damage is very probable with that number of ships, but most of the space monster weapons are not able to one shot comparable ships so severe damage would seem the worst possible consequence. But go ahead and lose ships, my robot armies of doom shall feast on your children's walkmans, mhu ha ha ha ha!!
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Thirdfain wrote:I've got no problem with it, although I think it's highly unlikely that a massive stock market crash would result from an attack which was ultimately utterly unsuccessful, especially considering what a massive source of wealth the huge concentration of industry in the Sol region represents. Moreover, it certainly wouldn't mean that your internal trade would increase massively overnight. A lot of Sol->Sector trade conglomorates would have to go bankrupt or drastically change their operations firest.
The Africa mess is going to deal a lot more damage to stock markets than a combined nation effort kicking some space monster ass.
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Well its not a "Crash" like economic depression, just that, like many markets, worry often spooks investors. ALso, "time" isn't well defined. You guys JUST finished the Monster attack, as far as The Sector knows, its still going on, and We could be next! ^_^

Mostly I just wanted to toss something in there since i've been away for a while.. The post right Before that one actually had a LOT more detail in whats been happening in my area.

Oh, and ON the Earth attack.. I think it inevitable that SOME ships would be loss... however weak the Space Monsters are one on one.. there we're simply too many of them.. Also don't forget panic and fear most likely played a part in some casualties.
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Dark Hellion wrote:Damage is very probable with that number of ships, but most of the space monster weapons are not able to one shot comparable ships so severe damage would seem the worst possible consequence.
Given the chaotic and unprecedented conditions, with vast swarms of enemies overloading sensor processing capability, large fleets from several different nations and ships trying to dodge being rammed left right and centre, I would not be surprised if some of those hits were friendly fire. It happens often enough in real life in much less chaotic circumstances. Future engagements will probably go better once sensible strategies for destroying vast numbers of space bugs are designed and implemented.
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I don't see any damage on my fleet. It was explicitly sitting way out at optimal missile engagement range. Given that the space monsters only explicitly concentrated only on the Logosians and Polish ships, I don't see a damaged ship...
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Dahak wrote:I don't see any damage on my fleet. It was explicitly sitting way out at optimal missile engagement range. Given that the space monsters only explicitly concentrated only on the Logosians and Polish ships, I don't see a damaged ship...
Actually, they were primarily engaging the Polish and the Portugese Fleets. The Centrality will suffer some casualties because of our close proximity and the space monsters not being too picky.
Nephtys wrote: They closed the distance to the Portugese and Polish fleets like a relentless violet tide.
As for friendly fire, this isn't a close quarters fight at night in the jungle. This is a space battle stretching over tens of thousands of kilometers with computer assisted fire control and targets that don't register like allied starships. There isn't going to be a whole lot of it.
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By the by, who has the most updated SpaceMap?

I used to keep it up to date, but fell behind. The last map I have is this one:
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Crossroads Inc. wrote:The last map I have is this one:
The latest one I am aware of is this one:

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HSRTG and ny01jones have dropped out and can be deleted from the map.

AFAIK Adrian Laguna has a blob of hexes half way between Noble Ire and Beowulf. I have no idea where MRDOD's empire is.
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Put iit this way, every Africa trading operation is suspended untill further notice, and We have captred a new criser
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That map still doesn't have Portugal filled in correctly - the hex under the 'B' in Bystander should be filled in.
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MRDOD has dropped out.
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Beowulf wrote:MRDOD has dropped out.
Ok. I have updated the powers summary to that effect.

Here is my current summary of the recent battle. Still need a description of ships and losses from Nephtys.

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>>> First Battle of Sol <<<

Location  : Near-Mercury Space
Situation : A small horde of space monsters jumps into the system, loiters
            around in close stellar orbit for a couple of days, then
            travels to Mercury and starts mining. The USA outpost destroys
            one of the miner creatures. The STMC ships begin firing on the
            outpost. The Logos Centrality is the first to fire back.
Forces    : (unspecified points value of STMC space monsters)
            1  x Colonial 'Saber' class (30pt, minimal damage)
            2  x Colonial 'Ichigo Kurosaki' class (14pt, moderate damage)
            3  x Colonial 'Char Aznable' class (5pt, heavy damage)
            1  x Colonial 'Char Aznable' class (5pt, destroyed)
            6  x Colonial 'Wendee Lee' (2pt, heavy damage)
            2  x Colonial 'Wendee Lee' (2pt, destroyed)
            2  x Hegemony 'Yamato' class (50pt, undamaged)
            4  x Hegemony 'Kongo' class (30pt, undamaged)
            3  x Hegemony 'Natori' class (14pt, undamaged)
            5  x Hegemony 'Jintsu' class (12pt, undamaged)
            1  x Hegemony 'Han' class (10pt, undamaged)
            5  x Hegemony 'Canberra' class (2pt, undamaged)
            30 x Hegemony 'Kobe' class (1pt, undamaged)
            3  x Logos 'Cataphract' class (28pt, undamaged)
            4  x Logos 'Archer' class (16pt, undamaged)
            9  x Logos 'Manticore' class (13pt, undamaged)
            1  x Logos 'Manticore' class (13pt, heavy damage)
            4  x Logos 'Huntress' class (6pt, undamaged)
            24 x Logos 'Talon' class (2pt, undamaged)
            2  x Logos 'Talon' class (2pt, destroyed)
            4  x Polish 'Jan III Sobieski' class (50pt, undamaged)
            3  x Polish 'Powstanie Warszawskie' class (20pt, undamaged)
            1  x Polish 'Powstanie Warszawskie' class (20pt, badly damaged)
            4  x Polish 'Stanislaw Skalski' class (15pt, undamaged)
            4  x Polish 'Husaria' class (12pt, undamaged)
            1  x Polish 'Sep' class (10pt, undamaged)
            3  x Polish 'Wilk' class (4pt, undamaged)
            10 x Polish 'Orzel' class (2pt, undamaged)
            1  x Polish 'Orzel' class (2pt, destroyed)
            32 x Polish 'Zbik' class (1pt, undamaged)
            2  x Polish 'Zbik' class (1pt, destroyed)
            5  x Portugese 'Incursor' (45pt, undamaged)
            7  x Portugese 'Espada Afiada' (15pt, undamaged)
            2  x Portugese 'Espada Afiada' (15pt, minor damage)
            1  x Portugese 'Espada Afiada' (15pt, heavy damage)
            2  x Portugese 'Voo Parada' (10pt, undamaged)
            23 x Portugese 'Maria' (4pt, undamaged)
            1  x Portugese 'Maria' (4pt, minor damage)
            1  x Portugese 'Maria' (4pt, destroyed)
            46 x Portugese 'Durado Levantou-Se' (2pt, undamaged)
            2  x Portugese 'Durado Levantou-Se' (2pt, heavy damage)
            2  x Portugese 'Durado Levantou-Se' (2pt, destroyed)
            1  x TGA 'Mothership' class (115pt, undamaged)
            2  x TGA 'Voite' class (40pt, undamaged)
            3  x TGA 'Rowrbrazzle' class (30pt, undamaged)
            1  x TGA 'OtherKun' class (10pt, moderate damage)
            (unspecified USA Home Defense Fleet?)
            (long range supporting fire from assorted earth defences)
Notes     : 75% of the enemy swarm was destroyed before they attempted to
            flee, a further 5% were caught in interdictors and destroyed
            before they could get clear. Massive debris fields in
            near-Mercury space.
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Notes     : 75% of the enemy swarm was destroyed before they attempted to 
            flee, a further 5% were caught in interdictors and destroyed 
            before they could get clear. Massive debris fields in 
            near-Mercury space.
Where did that 5% come from?
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InnocentBystander wrote:Where did that 5% come from?
From;
Nephtys wrote:My forces are going to try and warp-out at 75% losses.
Nephtys wrote:With some say... 20% of my units remaining. I dunno what kind of losses would be appropriate for the Sol groups, since not all are necessarilly deeply involved in such a mass engagement.
I interpreted that as '25% tried to run away, 20% made it' but I may be mistaken.
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Also, the CoOperative has one new ship, the captured destroyer-carrier that is being moved to new mombassa heights.
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Redleader34 wrote:Also, the CoOperative has one new ship, the captured destroyer-carrier that is being moved to new mombassa heights.
It’s more like an angry mouse; squirming around trying to escape; biting anything that in reach. Not especially dangerous, but I wouldn't get too close without a glove.
Starglider wrote:I interpreted that as '25% tried to run away, 20% made it' but I may be mistaken.
Maybe we should wait for Nephtys to react to the interdiction, eah?
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Starglider, the CoN now has a definitive membership list. You should update the Quickref Guide.
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Thirdfain wrote:Starglider, the CoN now has a definitive membership list. You should update the Quickref Guide.
Ok. Shall I have one of my raiders run into one of your patrols? If so, what's the composition? ~12pts of ships including a few points of EW should do nicely for hunting down the raider.
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Starglider wrote:
Thirdfain wrote:Starglider, the CoN now has a definitive membership list. You should update the Quickref Guide.
Ok. Shall I have one of my raiders run into one of your patrols? If so, what's the composition? ~12pts of ships including a few points of EW should do nicely for hunting down the raider.
The smallest force I field which would be on patrol would be one of my raiding divisions.

An element of the 4th Fleet Corps, out of Swirski Fleet Base, Nowy Podlasie.

----2nd Raiding Division
1 Sęp- class Interdiction Cruiser
1 Blyskawica- class Light Cruiser
1 Husaria-class Heavy Cruiser
-2 "Zbik"-class Frigates
-2 "Orzel"-class EW Destroyers
-1 "Wilk"-class Destroyer

In total, 20 points of crusier firepower, 6 points of escorts, 2 points for the EW boat, and 10 points for the interdictor.
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Redleader34 wrote:Also, the CoOperative has one new ship, the captured destroyer-carrier that is being moved to new mombassa heights.
It certainly isn't something the Hegemony would feel right, an alien ship of unknown designs in orbit...
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Dahak wrote:It certainly isn't something the Hegemony would feel right, an alien ship of unknown designs in orbit...
Yeah, I imagine you'd try to tractor it for looking at you funny, then open fire on it without warning. :)
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I find myself disappointed by the lack of activity during my period of absence. The silver lining is that there is less stuff to catch-up on.

BTW - Despite it taking an eternity to get writen-out, the meeting between the Spanish (more specifically, Castillian) ship and one of Poland's colony worlds has been over and done with since before the whole thing with the space monsters in Sol. I'm saying just in case anyone somehow thinks a first contact meeting would take a few weeks.
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