Clone Troopers and Midichlorians

[PainRack]

Anyhow, the closest we've come to seeing a "clone army" is probably the "special forces" Darktroopers (DE or SWR variants, take your pick) or the Royal Guardsmen/Sovereign protectors, and neither were large (relative to the Stormtroopers or ARmy proper) nor clones.

Could the Royal Guardsmen have clones in them though? After all, they were recruited from the best stormtroopers and Dorsk 81 proves that clones can become Force-sensitive.

[Havok]

Anyhow, the closest we've come to seeing a "clone army" is probably the "special forces" Darktroopers (DE or SWR variants, take your pick) or the Royal Guardsmen/Sovereign protectors, and neither were large (relative to the Stormtroopers or ARmy proper) nor clones.

Could the Royal Guardsmen have clones in them though? After all, they were recruited from the best stormtroopers and Dorsk 81 proves that clones can become Force-sensitive.

True but it took 81 tries.

[Lord Revan]

while it might be possible to infuse a living specimen with the (the Reborn and Disiples of Ragnos incidents), those weren't so good (the NJO defeated both without signifigant problems (in fact just 1 person (Kyle Katarn or his apprentice) did most of the work))

Those Reborn weren't very good because they were never trained. "None of that's going to happen Dessan. Most of your Shadowtroopers are being mopped up by real Jedi, Jedi who have been trained to use the Force. The rest blew up with your ship."

true, but is the only artificial infusion of Force powers I know of (and it did involve more then just injecting midichlorians into them)

[PainRack]

true, but is the only artificial infusion of Force powers I know of (and it did involve more then just injecting midichlorians into them)

Oddly enough, Vjun was supposedly the site of atrocities when Count Dooku family experimented with injecting midichlorians in people(as recounted in Dark Rendevous).

True but it took 81 tries. Wink

I recall that NJO shows that this wasn't a fluke, right? Future generations of Dorsk were also force-sensitive. (Although did it skip a generation?)

[QuentinGeorge]

Could the Royal Guardsmen have clones in them though? After all, they were recruited from the best stormtroopers and Dorsk 81 proves that clones can become Force-sensitive.

The original intention of the author of Crimson Empire was that Kir Kanos and Carnor Jax were in fact clones, hence the unmasking scene's significance.

Whether that is still true of them in current canon, I dunno.[/i]

[Starglider]

After all, they were recruited from the best stormtroopers and Dorsk 81 proves that clones can become Force-sensitive.

True but it took 81 tries.

I don't particularly like the character, but I think the point with Dorsk 81 was that he was the first of his line (possibly even first of his race) to reject the crushing social indoctrination of his home planet and go off adventuring around the galaxy. Dorsk 82 doesn't show any force potential (that anyone mentions) until the planet is wrecked and he gets a desire to go out and avenge it.

Cloning techniques that force-grow clones to adulthood in months or weeks and implant memories seem to cost vastly more (and are correspondingly much rarer) than standard AotC-style cloning. I don't think they were available to Palpatine in the pre-Imperial days.

[TC Pilot]

Oh, they were available, alright. They just went insane.

[Warsie]

while it might be possible to infuse a living specimen with the (the Reborn and Disiples of Ragnos incidents), those weren't so good (the NJO defeated both without signifigant problems (in fact just 1 person (Kyle Katarn or his apprentice) did most of the work))

They didn't get much training..

[Master_Baerne]

Two words: Joruus C'baoth.

I realize he was made with different cloning technology, but it provides an additional in-universe explanation with the possibility that Kaminoan technology might experience similar failures when dealing with Force sensitives.

Wasn't his growing time accelerated? IIRC, that's what lead to his mental instability.

Since they had to put yslamari on the tanks to keep the clones sane, would it be possible to grow a sane Jedi clone?

[Crazedwraith]

Two words: Joruus C'baoth.

I realize he was made with different cloning technology, but it provides an additional in-universe explanation with the possibility that Kaminoan technology might experience similar failures when dealing with Force sensitives.

Wasn't his growing time accelerated? IIRC, that's what lead to his mental instability.

Since they had to put yslamari on the tanks to keep the clones sane, would it be possible to grow a sane Jedi clone?

Yes, you'd just have to let it take years to grow.

[Noble Ire]

Since they had to put yslamari on the tanks to keep the clones sane, would it be possible to grow a sane Jedi clone?

One has to wonder what the effect of growing a Force-sensitive in an environment completely devoid of the Force would have. Although there's no canon evidence either way on the subject, as far as I know, I think it would be at least possible that maturing a sapient, even one with a natural affinity for the Force, completely isolated from it, might retard their ability to tap into the energy field. Of course, since the true nature of the Force and its interactions with life forms is largely unknown, one can't really say unless the experiment is conducted in the canon.