My first attempt at 3d....

Grahf: Seeker Of Power · Post by **Grahf: Seeker Of Power** » 2007-08-19 12:43pm

My original hand drawn concept:

........and its 3d counterpart (loose interpretation):

and........

Havent really found a way to connect the nacelles/engines/pointy things to the structure like I did in my concept drawing. Let me know what you guys think.

salm · Post by **salm** » 2007-08-19 01:02pm

Are these perspective shots or orthographic projections? These shots look very confusing especially the first one.
Very nice sketch though.

Havok · Post by **Havok** » 2007-08-19 01:10pm

The hand drawn one is cool!
It looks far superior to the 3D one.

Grahf: Seeker Of Power · Post by **Grahf: Seeker Of Power** » 2007-08-19 01:22pm

They are perspective, from rear 3/4 and front 3/4 view.

Havok · Post by **Havok** » 2007-08-19 01:29pm

Kinda seems like Jem H'adar meets Robotech.

Grahf: Seeker Of Power · Post by **Grahf: Seeker Of Power** » 2007-08-19 01:57pm

Actually those are two of my inspiration for the desing. I went a little less flamboyant than either of those and mixed in a little of the more robust feel of the star wars designs.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2007-08-19 02:30pm

....First attempt!?!

Wow. Love the design, too. You're extremely good at orthographics as well, but there are enough differences between it and the 3d version to look like two different ships. Are you using Google Sketchup?

To conclude, you have massive amounts of talent; maybe you can make concept designs for games or movies.

Grahf: Seeker Of Power · Post by **Grahf: Seeker Of Power** » 2007-08-19 03:45pm

Thanks, its actually the first time ive ever shown any of my drawings, well, to anyone. And yes, im doing sketchup. Really, im using it just to help me see the basic form of the ship in 3 dimensions, not to be totally accurate. And that is just one of many, I have alot of other designs.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2007-08-19 04:25pm

What's your weaponry and technology base for these ships?

Grahf: Seeker Of Power · Post by **Grahf: Seeker Of Power** » 2007-08-19 04:48pm

Actually, never really thought about that. All that I know is the the limited fiction I thought up has the technology beyond GE but not by a large margin. Ive actually got this pic to help out with scale also:

and this is that ship's sister, supposedly same basic superstructure but with a completely different combat role:

She's incomplete at the moment, I've only got the top view as of now, but Ill have the rest done soon.

AK-047 · Post by **AK-047** » 2007-08-19 06:48pm

Oh wow, these designs are awesome. I thought they were starfighters before I saw the ISD.

Grahf: Seeker Of Power · Post by **Grahf: Seeker Of Power** » 2007-08-19 06:55pm

Just finished a new piece:

...still some fine tuning to do, and have one of both of them together..

...now, someone spoke about a fighter:

Alan Bolte · Post by **Alan Bolte** » 2007-08-19 11:57pm

Looking at the drawing, the only connection between the nacelles and the main hull is through the spoiler-shaped bit.

Grahf: Seeker Of Power · Post by **Grahf: Seeker Of Power** » 2007-08-20 02:42am

Thats true, but I couldnt render it like that in sketchup, so i just improvised.

Grahf: Seeker Of Power · Post by **Grahf: Seeker Of Power** » 2007-08-21 10:07pm

Id really appreciate any feedback you guys can give me: criticism is welcome of any sort.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2007-08-21 10:11pm

Grahf: Seeker Of Power wrote:Id really appreciate any feedback you guys can give me: criticism is welcome of any sort.

Fighter's nice, but that squared-off trailing edge on the wing keeps drawing my eye to it. I have a keen interest in aerodynamics, and that TE keeps screaming at me to have it fixed.

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2007-08-21 10:23pm

Einy, check out the X-15 for square trailing edges.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2007-08-21 10:30pm

Frank Hipper wrote:Einy, check out the X-15 for square trailing edges.

I know. It works great for a vertical stabilizer on a hypersonic plane, but not anywhere as well on a transonic lift-producing wing. It encourages airflow to turn up around the TE at high angles of attack, causing flow separation and stall sooner than otherwise for a normal sharp TE. It also causes unnecessary amounts of base drag (the reason artillery shells have boattails and base-bleed units for long range).

Grahf: Seeker Of Power · Post by **Grahf: Seeker Of Power** » 2007-08-22 04:05am

Update: Finished the final model of my first concept in Sketchup:

Feel free to comment/critique/shower with praise/vomit on, whatever floats your boat.

P.S.-Soon to come is the BIG DAWG!!!!!-

salm · Post by **salm** » 2007-08-24 09:26pm

Looks nice. I like it.

Chardok · Post by **Chardok** » 2007-08-24 09:51pm

Grahf: Seeker Of Power wrote:<snippage newest ship pics>

Hey Grahf, I like that last one alot, but I'm having trouble with scale. Any way you could paste in like....a silhouette of another ship somewhere or, if it's small enough, a man-sized figure (6 feet)?

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2007-08-24 10:54pm

Heh, that's awesome. It looks like something from StarFox.

Grahf: Seeker Of Power · Post by **Grahf: Seeker Of Power** » 2007-08-25 12:54pm

I dont have a pic like that, all I can tell you is that its around 3500 meters long.

salm · Post by **salm** » 2007-08-25 01:54pm

If you´re going to texture it the scale will probably be more apparent as there will most likely be things like windows on it which make the scale visible.

Grahf: Seeker Of Power · Post by **Grahf: Seeker Of Power** » 2007-08-26 02:41pm

Im only using the textures that come with sketchup. And I never designed windows into the original concept, much less into the model itself.