EU book into movie

[consequences]

For me, I'd like to see the X-Wing series done as a movie, or maybe TV miniseries (1-7 at least since they follow each other). If you want some starship porn, you'll at least get some of that, even though the fleet battles weren't that big. Still, lots of X-wings flying around, so it can't be all bad. But that's more a secondary one; I'd like to see TTT myself, because I think it'd be interesting to see Thrawn potrayed by an actual actor.

Partial agreement here. I'd like to see the Wraith Squadron books done as a movie cluster or mini-series. The first four X-wing books(and the eight for that matter) you can keep, especially since they include about half of the reasons I harp on the NR being collossal douches from the entire EU.

[Warsie]

TTT can be made into movie with more; I'd say Ep 7 would deal with wedge end Rogue Squadron taking Coruscant, with the NR fleet. Ep 8 would deal with HTTE; ends at the end of the book. DFR and TLC is made into 1 movie; the DE and some of the NR's retreat from coruscsnt is made into another movie; DE II and Empire's End is made into another movie. And as painrack said; the Jedi Academy trilogy makes a nice movie; add it with Darksaber and it's better

[PainRack]

TTT can be made into movie with more; I'd say Ep 7 would deal with wedge end Rogue Squadron taking Coruscant, with the NR fleet. Ep 8 would deal with HTTE; ends at the end of the book. DFR and TLC is made into 1 movie; the DE and some of the NR's retreat from coruscsnt is made into another movie; DE II and Empire's End is made into another movie. And as painrack said; the Jedi Academy trilogy makes a nice movie; add it with Darksaber and it's better

No more death stars please. There's already one deathstar in the JAT, add in Darksaber and you get 2!

Come to think of it, is it possible to rewrite JAT so that the Death Star arc is removed? After all, the guys here already want Kyp dead and quartered:D

[Isolder74]

The Courtship of Princess Liea would make a pretty good movie. It has a love triangle, intrigue, battles and a charming prince. It also has witches both good and evil as well as seeing the Falcon more messed up then its ever been. We'd get to see Hapans which are all hot girls and the Mon Romonda and has a massive ground battle including lots 0f force power action. It would be nice to see the Chunathor in all its rotten glory.

[Warsie]

TTT can be made into movie with more; I'd say Ep 7 would deal with wedge end Rogue Squadron taking Coruscant, with the NR fleet. Ep 8 would deal with HTTE; ends at the end of the book. DFR and TLC is made into 1 movie; the DE and some of the NR's retreat from coruscsnt is made into another movie; DE II and Empire's End is made into another movie. And as painrack said; the Jedi Academy trilogy makes a nice movie; add it with Darksaber and it's better

No more death stars please. There's already one deathstar in the JAT, add in Darksaber and you get 2!

Come to think of it, is it possible to rewrite JAT so that the Death Star arc is removed? After all, the guys here already want Kyp dead and quartered:D

as you said; you could remove the Darksaber from the plot. I was always interested more in what was happening with Daala and the Deep Core; but liked the little blurbs with Wedge and Qui; and Madine's early life so....

[Master_Baerne]

the Jedi Academy trilogy makes a nice movie; add it with Darksaber and it's better

No, it isn't, and no, it wouldn't be. The Jedi Academy trilogy is completely ridiculous, though not quite as bad as Darksaber. Suffice to say, a score of Jedi trainees should NOT be able to Force Push a fleet of four dozen Star Destroyers to the edge of the solar system.

[President Sharky]

It's not a book, but to me Dark Empire appears to best embody the spirit of the OT and makes for a very smooth continuation from the narrative of ROTJ. It also keeps the same villains in the form of Palpatine, the Empire, and the Dark Side.

[Stormbringer]

It's not a book, but to me Dark Empire appears to best embody the spirit of the OT and makes for a very smooth continuation from the narrative of ROTJ. It also keeps the same villains in the form of Palpatine, the Empire, and the Dark Side.

Which is why I quite thoroughly hate it.

I loathe it for the very simple reason that it almost entirely negates the purpose of Vader's sacrifice in RotJ. Vader sacrifices himself to protect his son and to begin to reverse the damage he's done as Evil Incarnate's Right Hand Man. By rendering a huge part of that sacrifice null and void, namely in the Emperor's cloned return, it cheapens the death scene significantly. You have the rise and fall and redemption of Anakin Skywalker in one complete story. But wait, he fucks it up at the end. If one accepts it at face value then it really does render RotJ much less satisfying and dramatic.

Of course the fact that it also started an endless string of brainbugs and retarded plot hooks that got to be quite annoying. It started the Palpatine wanking in a very big way, which is annoying because it also simultaneously makes him something of a moron. It also has one of the endless good Jedi turns evil, for a while, plotlines that became the fodder of too much subsequent stupidity. And let's not forget it also has sever Jedi but not Jedi hanging around.

[Imperial Overlord]

If you could find someone to do the role instead of Harrison Ford, Brian Daley's Han Solo books

Han Solo at Star's End
Han Solo's Revenge
Han Solo and the Lost Legacy

Familiar characters and some new ones, new part of the galaxy. High adventure, some intrigue, and Solo up to his neck in shit and treading water desperately.

[Dark Flame]

If you could find someone to do the role instead of Harrison Ford, Brian Daley's Han Solo books

Han Solo at Star's End
Han Solo's Revenge
Han Solo and the Lost Legacy

Familiar characters and some new ones, new part of the galaxy. High adventure, some intrigue, and Solo up to his neck in shit and treading water desperately.

I second this idea. However, I think it would be easier to do 3 seperate movies for this series, rather than merging them all into one. But yes, great stories that would make a good movie(s).

[Lazarus]

It's not a book, but to me Dark Empire appears to best embody the spirit of the OT and makes for a very smooth continuation from the narrative of ROTJ. It also keeps the same villains in the form of Palpatine, the Empire, and the Dark Side.

DE is awful and somehow embodies everything I hate about comic books AND all the negative aspects of SW in one title. It's like Dark Horse thought 'How can we shoehorn all the horrible flaws of comic books into star wars?' and DE appeared fully formed in front of them.

[Old Plympto]

It's like Dark Horse thought 'How can we shoehorn all the horrible flaws of comic books into star wars?' and DE appeared fully formed in front of them.

To be precise the project started out as Marvel's Epic Comics imprint, before their Star Wars license lapsed. When Dark Horse became the new comics licensee, Veitch and Kennedy brought their work over to finish it.

[DrMckay]

Either the Young Han Solo books by AC Crispin (those were good)

or as was previously mentioned; an X-wing miniseries, light on the Corran horn.

In the original trilogy, Wedge was always my favorite character, mainly because he was a "normal guy" who lived through it.

Michael Stackpole's books were okay, but if they could get Aaron Allston to write the screenplay, they've got it made. His take on Janson is priceless.

and they could make it a tad darker, ala BSG, as they have Ysanne Isard and Warlord Zinsj to take care of...

[Warsie]

No, it isn't, and no, it wouldn't be. The Jedi Academy trilogy is completely ridiculous, though not quite as bad as Darksaber. Suffice to say, a score of Jedi trainees should NOT be able to Force Push a fleet of four dozen Star Destroyers to the edge of the solar system.

Darksaber says it was 17 ISDs sent there.

and the NEC places it at 12 Imperators. I didn't like it (thought it can seem plausible; simply pooling energy and pushing something; supposedly a simply force trick) but the main thing that pissed me off in Darksaber was Callista fucking up Knight Hammer. That's the part that pissed me off the most. Without that; I could deal with the 12 ISDs flung out.

But you can retcon it and say Knight Hammer went up in a fleet battle or something.

[Master_Baerne]

No, it isn't, and no, it wouldn't be. The Jedi Academy trilogy is completely ridiculous, though not quite as bad as Darksaber. Suffice to say, a score of Jedi trainees should NOT be able to Force Push a fleet of four dozen Star Destroyers to the edge of the solar system.

Darksaber says it was 17 ISDs sent there.

and the NEC places it at 12 Imperators. I didn't like it (thought it can seem plausible; simply pooling energy and pushing something; supposedly a simply force trick) but the main thing that pissed me off in Darksaber was Callista fucking up Knight Hammer. That's the part that pissed me off the most. Without that; I could deal with the 12 ISDs flung out.

But you can retcon it and say Knight Hammer went up in a fleet battle or something.

I stand corrected on the fleet numbers. Sorry. I maintain that a mere handful of Jedi trainees should not be able to do that. Otherwise, wouldn't the Jedi have used that tactic during the Clone Wars? Consider: The Seperatist fleet arrives in Coruscant orbit. The Jedi Council Force Pushes it away, allowing the republic to destroy the battered ships at leisure. And if it could be done, they would know how to do it.

I agree that someone should have spotted Callista and ask what the fuck she was doing in the bomber hangars. there are, what, 10,000 stormtroopers on an ISD? You'd think some of them would be on hangar patrol...

[Noble Ire]

I stand corrected on the fleet numbers. Sorry. I maintain that a mere handful of Jedi trainees should not be able to do that. Otherwise, wouldn't the Jedi have used that tactic during the Clone Wars? Consider: The Seperatist fleet arrives in Coruscant orbit. The Jedi Council Force Pushes it away, allowing the republic to destroy the battered ships at leisure. And if it could be done, they would know how to do it.

The only halfway valid explanation I've heard for the displacement of Pelllaeon's fleet was that because the Jedi trainees chanced to pool their energy at the top of the Great Temple of Yavin IV, their capabilities were amplified. According to the OT:ICS, Sith Lord Naga Sadow had the Massassi construct the pyramid so that it would magnify any Force powers used at its summit.

Of course, this is a rather tenuous explanation, and does not explain why the Jedi Council of the Old Republic would be unable to accomplish a similar feat, especially considering the fact that the Jedi Temple on Coruscant was itself a "Force nexus".

[Stark]

How about 'the Jedi were a bit busy fighting off the massive droid armies invading Coruscant'? Yoda and Mace were sure tied up in this way.

[Noble Ire]

How about 'the Jedi were a bit busy fighting off the massive droid armies invading Coruscant'? Yoda and Mace were sure tied up in this way.

That's a fair point. Still, even with most Jedi scattered throughout the Galaxy leading the Republic's armies, and the most competent Knights and Masters on the planet engaged, there were still dozens of Jedi equal to or far surpassing the skill and experience of Luke's trainees within the temple; healers, scholars, aged teachers, padawans too young too fight, etc.

[DesertFly]

That's a fair point. Still, even with most Jedi scattered throughout the Galaxy leading the Republic's armies, and the most competent Knights and Masters on the planet engaged, there were still dozens of Jedi equal to or far surpassing the skill and experience of Luke's trainees within the temple; healers, scholars, aged teachers, padawans too young too fight, etc.

Maybe it's as simple as no-one having the idea. Even more likely, perhaps the Jedi knew about it, but decided not to, due to the potential risks. One of the participants died when doing the push in Darksaber, and the same may have happened if the Jedi on Coruscant had tried. People think that it's because Luke's students just didn't know how to handle it, but perhaps this was just a known danger of this technique on this scale.

[RogueIce]

Maybe it's as simple as no-one having the idea. Even more likely, perhaps the Jedi knew about it, but decided not to, due to the potential risks. One of the participants died when doing the push in Darksaber, and the same may have happened if the Jedi on Coruscant had tried. People think that it's because Luke's students just didn't know how to handle it, but perhaps this was just a known danger of this technique on this scale.

You'd think they'd decide that one (or a few, since the RotS fleet was bigger) of their lives might just be worth avoiding the death and destruction that battle caused?

[Lord Revan]

Maybe it's as simple as no-one having the idea. Even more likely, perhaps the Jedi knew about it, but decided not to, due to the potential risks. One of the participants died when doing the push in Darksaber, and the same may have happened if the Jedi on Coruscant had tried. People think that it's because Luke's students just didn't know how to handle it, but perhaps this was just a known danger of this technique on this scale.

You'd think they'd decide that one (or a few, since the RotS fleet was bigger) of their lives might just be worth avoiding the death and destruction that battle caused?

maybe but since the jedi who died, was killed due to the blackslash from the energies involved it could be possible the pushing a fleet like the one in ROTS would cause more coladeral damage then just kill a few jedi

[Wicked Pilot]

Lots of people name the Thrawn Trilogy whenever there's a discussion about which EU novels could be made into films. However, I don't think they would make very good movies unless you make a lot of changes. They're regarded as some of the best EU novels, but that's not really saying much.

I would say the biggest thing the Zahn books have going for them is by being first the get to set the EU standard. And of course Zahn's not a bad author so they where easy and fun to read.

The biggest problems I have with this trilogy are the deus ex machinas and the lame ways the villains are defeated.

-Thrawn spends all of Heir to the Empire setting up his attack on the Sluis Van shipyards, and the details aren't revealed until the attack actually comes. Then Lando shows up and uses his secret code (which hadn't been mentioned at all) to cause all the mole miners to shut down.

-Two ISDs are battling the Republic and smuggler forces over the remnants of the Katana Fleet, in a climatic battle that is probably way too small scale for a SW movie anyway. Everybody practically shits their pants when the second ISD shows up, and tell each other to make it out if they can. Then Han suddenly remote-controls a Dreadnaught into ramming one of the ISDs, destroying it.

-Grand Admiral Thrawn gets stabbed in the back by his own bodyguard. The Imperial forces quickly fall apart without him. Come the fuck on.

I agree with Feil that the same critisms can be made about the movies, but the major difference is that the movies where about the central characters, not the methods. For example ANH was about the farm boy coming of age and slaying the dragon, the independent self centered mercenary having a change of heart and putting himself on the line to save the hero during his time of need, the old wise man instilling wisdom on the younger generation, and etc. And as the series progressed the character arcs went further. Shooting a missile down a unshielded exaust port was simply a means to progress the story of Skywalker. In the EU books, at least the one's I've read, it's always been the opposite, with the characters existing to move the plot, not the plot moving the characters. I think that would be the downfall of any attempt to turn EU into a movie. They may be fun with lots of space ships and stuff blowing up real good, but that's only a fraction of what made Star Wars great.

[Pelranius]

Perhaps mixing and matching pieces and elements from the various EU story arcs (Thrawn, X wing, Dark Empire, the Jedi Academy) would work to make a better movie plot?

Someone could replace the Katana Fleet with ex CIS World Devastators, and stuff like that.

[TC Pilot]

maybe but since the jedi who died, was killed due to the blackslash from the energies involved it could be possible the pushing a fleet like the one in ROTS would cause more coladeral damage then just kill a few jedi

Indeed. Many people seem to forget that the Jedi trainee who performed the Force Push essentially had his head explode as a result.