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Darth Wong wrote: Just so you know, I did mess around with trying to copy characters from one computer to another, and it doesn't seem to work. However, you can transfer items from an imported character to one of yours by using TQVault, even if that imported character won't show up in the game. And I've got more weapons than you can shake a stick at.
Weird. How'd you get all your stuff? Playing on Epic, farming Typhon, Immortal Throne?

That reminds me - now that I've finished the game on normal, should I play normal Immortal Throne, or play Epic vanilla game? I'm thinking if Immortal Throne has cool items, I can use them in epic play for the vanilla game, if it's possible (I believe you import your character or something).

And finally - is there a level cap? Because I'm nearly all Warfare focused, with only enough points in Hunting for fast bow fire - I really need Study Prey.
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Vympel wrote:Weird. How'd you get all your stuff? Playing on Epic, farming Typhon, Immortal Throne?
Farming Typhon and Epic Typhon. I found a gameloader a long time ago called "Titan Quest Advanced" which increased the pathetically low unique item drop probability, so I used that in conjunction with Typhon farming to build up a huge library of high-powered items. The problem is that this gameloader was never updated for TQ 1.30 or TQIT, so it doesn't work now. But the library of weapons and armour I assembled during that period is still with me.
That reminds me - now that I've finished the game on normal, should I play normal Immortal Throne, or play Epic vanilla game? I'm thinking if Immortal Throne has cool items, I can use them in epic play for the vanilla game, if it's possible (I believe you import your character or something).
You can import characters from vanilla TQ to TQIT, but I'm not aware of any method for going the other way, unless your "Gold Edition" has something new in it. If you killed Typhon in TQIT, I think you have no choice but to go through the IT campaign. You will find some interesting items in the IT campaign, but I don't have much of a library of that stuff, for the reasons I mentioned earlier. Of course, one of the big bonuses of the IT campaign is the arcane formulas, which are really cool but also very difficult to assemble. I have a library of those too.
And finally - is there a level cap? Because I'm nearly all Warfare focused, with only enough points in Hunting for fast bow fire - I really need Study Prey.
Vanilla TQ caps out at 65. TQIT caps out at 75.

Personally, I've found that you really can't build up two masteries to any appreciable level. Concentrate on one mastery and just get a few cool goodies from the other one in order to augment your primary skillset.

PS. There are some truly awesome high-end items in the game, like the Armor of Achilles, but the requirements are steep: 525 strength for that one. Luckily, there are also plenty of charms which increase strength, and you get automatic strength increases when you boost your level in a strength-related mastery like Defense or Warfare.
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Damn. It wouldn't feel like cheating if I could get the random-yet-increased drops myself :)

You were right about that Imperial Armor set- the Bracers just dropped for me, and it was amazing how high my lethality for Dual Wield went up just from the single point skill increase.

*Yin and Yang Yin and Yang Yin and Yang ....*

Does Epic Typhon do anything new compared to normal Typhon? It's amazing how easy he is to kill when you get the pattern down.
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In the original TQ at least, it is possible to transfer characters from one computer to the other as long as the CD key is the same. There's an extra, non-obvious step you have to take to get the new TQ install to recognize the characters, but it was definitely possible. I dunno about IT.

I think this is what I originally read.

So, if you have multiple TQ copies, I think you're fucked, but it'll work if you're just upgrading your computer, it should work.
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Alferd Packer wrote:In the original TQ at least, it is possible to transfer characters from one computer to the other as long as the CD key is the same. There's an extra, non-obvious step you have to take to get the new TQ install to recognize the characters, but it was definitely possible. I dunno about IT.

I think this is what I originally read.

So, if you have multiple TQ copies, I think you're fucked, but it'll work if you're just upgrading your computer, it should work.
If you're just upgrading your computer, you can simply copy the entire My Documents\My Games\Titan Quest subdirectory. I back that up as part of my periodic backup routine.
Vympel wrote:Damn. It wouldn't feel like cheating if I could get the random-yet-increased drops myself :)
There might still be a way to do that. I haven't investigated that much since I already have my vast store of goodies. Let me get back to you on that.
You were right about that Imperial Armor set- the Bracers just dropped for me, and it was amazing how high my lethality for Dual Wield went up just from the single point skill increase.

*Yin and Yang Yin and Yang Yin and Yang ....*
It's mystifying why they made the unique item drop probability so low, when the unique items are one of the coolest parts of the game. I still remember how jazzed I was to finally complete the Tartarus set, which is unholy cool.
Does Epic Typhon do anything new compared to normal Typhon? It's amazing how easy he is to kill when you get the pattern down.
No, he does the same things. They just cause more damage at the higher levels. In fact, at Legendary level, the Telkine at the end of the Oriental campaign is actually tougher than the Typhon that follows him, because he spawns demons that have pretty high hitpoints and damage levels, so you can't ignore them any more. But his deathray does four thousand damage, so you can't afford to let him hit you even once while you're fighting his demon spawn.

Also, some other monsters show up at the higher levels. In Legendary level, you actually fight the Hydra in the swamps before you get to Athens. There's also the Manticore somewhere in Egypt; he's a real son of a bitch to kill.

PS. Warning: if you do the Immortal Throne campaign, you'll have to fight Typhon again. After all, the IT campaign takes place in the underworld, and guess where Typhon went when he died. But this time, he's only the prelude to the real boss.
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Mike, TQDefiler, as recommended on page 1, is awesome- it's got everything you could possibly imagine, want, and more. Check it out:-


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I upped the drop rate, thankfully it's much more tolerable farming now.
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Vympel wrote:Mike, TQDefiler, as recommended on page 1, is awesome- it's got everything you could possibly imagine, want, and more. Check it out:-

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I upped the drop rate, thankfully it's much more tolerable farming now.
AWEsome. I tried TQDefiler way back when it didn't have the ability to modify the game parameters, and I didn't see the point of it. Now that the new version has the ability to mod the game, it's far more useful.

I've already tried the unique item multiplier, the "super flying bodies" mod, and the "no ingredient artifacts" mod. The unique item multiplier is just like the old "Titan Quest Advanced" gameloader, and the "super flying bodies" mod is hilarious.

PS. The "Shroud of Eternal Night" is the best artifact I've found so far.
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I played through the second highest difficulty level somewhere towards Typhon's prison, and now I have 51million gold I think....

This game gets darn profitable, so much so I don't bother to pick up a lot of stuff except green and above now.
Holy shit. :( I've just gotten past the Jade palace and I've got under 1 million in gold. Is it my fault for pussying out and playing on normal difficulty? Is there some gameplay mechanic I'm misusing?

EDIT: I haven't done any farming as such, just clearing out each area once and moving on. I've currently got a level 32 (Earth/Defense) Juggernaught.
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Darth Wong wrote: AWEsome. I tried TQDefiler way back when it didn't have the ability to modify the game parameters, and I didn't see the point of it. Now that the new version has the ability to mod the game, it's far more useful.

I've already tried the unique item multiplier, the "super flying bodies" mod, and the "no ingredient artifacts" mod. The unique item multiplier is just like the old "Titan Quest Advanced" gameloader, and the "super flying bodies" mod is hilarious.

PS. The "Shroud of Eternal Night" is the best artifact I've found so far.
I'm still farming Typhon - I've set the drop modifier to the highest recommended - 5 - and got three blue drops in my one run last night. Still nothing that I can actually use though, except for a blue helmet (Mede Cap). :(

I wonder what happens if you set it to 50 ...

Another mod that might be coming in future versions is turning off the annoying videos at the start -which reminds me - does anyone else have the problem that it's entirely random as to what button you hit on your keyboard for the videos to piss off? Sometimes it's MB1, sometimes it's esc, spacebar, enter, ctrl, there's no rhyme or reason to it.
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Vympel wrote:Another mod that might be coming in future versions is turning off the annoying videos at the start -which reminds me - does anyone else have the problem that it's entirely random as to what button you hit on your keyboard for the videos to piss off? Sometimes it's MB1, sometimes it's esc, spacebar, enter, ctrl, there's no rhyme or reason to it.
Consistently, for me, it's been the spacebar and the escape key. But yeah, I noticed the change in keys the other day and I was slightly peturbed. Years ago I wouldn't have minded intro videos, they were neat and usuallly told you something about the story. I can thank EA for souring me towards them forever.
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3rd Impact wrote:
Holy shit. :( I've just gotten past the Jade palace and I've got under 1 million in gold. Is it my fault for pussying out and playing on normal difficulty? Is there some gameplay mechanic I'm misusing?

EDIT: I haven't done any farming as such, just clearing out each area once and moving on. I've currently got a level 32 (Earth/Defense) Juggernaught.
Well... admittedly, I spent a whole lot of time selling off gold coloured and above items....

But that aside, perhaps I should return and continue from where I left off and fidget with TQDefiler a bit more.

Just in case no one knows, TQDefiler has its own webbie: http://tq.demortex.com/
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3rd Impact wrote:
Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:
I played through the second highest difficulty level somewhere towards Typhon's prison, and now I have 51million gold I think....

This game gets darn profitable, so much so I don't bother to pick up a lot of stuff except green and above now.
Holy shit. :( I've just gotten past the Jade palace and I've got under 1 million in gold. Is it my fault for pussying out and playing on normal difficulty? Is there some gameplay mechanic I'm misusing?

EDIT: I haven't done any farming as such, just clearing out each area once and moving on. I've currently got a level 32 (Earth/Defense) Juggernaught.
You're fine; medium difficulty is unlocked on a by-character basis by beating easy, same as in Diablo. Fingolfin's 51 megagold character is probably around level 48; you'll probably have around 10 million by the time you beat the IT expansion act.
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I was on 6 million when I finished it by Level 33. I'm a hoarder. I go back to town to sell shit all the time. It adds up :)

I've got 9 million now just from farming Typhon. I just wish I could get past the mobs in the way (especially the annoying Cyclopses) without having to fight them.
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Vympel wrote:I was on 6 million when I finished it by Level 33. I'm a hoarder. I go back to town to sell shit all the time. It adds up :)

I've got 9 million now just from farming Typhon. I just wish I could get past the mobs in the way (especially the annoying Cyclopses) without having to fight them.
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I've found that the best way to beat tough bosses is to use scrolls in conjunction with my standard tactic of letting my rock monster draw enemy attention while I blast them with devastating fire barrages at range. If the boss is too tough for that, I back up the rock monster with a Scroll of Cyclops. It's pretty hard to ignore a rock monster and a cyclops pounding on you, so I usually get my chance to stand off and blast the fucker till he's dead. I killed Hades that way (he took out my rock monster and the cyclops, but by that time he had almost no health left because I'd been flame-broiling him the whole time).
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You will find that some of the unofficial bosses of the higher difficulty levels, like that... leviathan or something in the Egyptian desert can be a pain in the arse if you don't use scrolls.
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TQDefiler recommends a modifier of 5 as the maximum recommended for the unique drop mod - I was getting impatient, so I set it to 6. Strangely, two of the same item (Shield of Balance - *yawn*) dropped (along with some others).

In all these runs a single weapon (excluding bows which all have much worse DPS than my yellow bow upgraded with the artemis relic ...) has yet to drop (Imperial Greaves have dropped twice, as has some annoying Staff of Healing) yet I've got shields and shit coming out the ass. Grrr.

Maybe I should just set it to 50.

(woot, setting it to 7 netted me Wang-Chun's Tear and Yin!)
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I started a game with the modifier at 5 for the unique drop mod. So far I'm at level 13, and the blues I'm using are Blood Stone (ring), Labyrinthine Helmet, Frostmoon (amulet), and Companion's Guard (shield). My spear is a Chilling Hasta of Destruction with a completed Prometheus' Flame (+50% damage to demons as completion bonus).

The blues I've dumped have included the Obsidian Helmet and five Archon's Chitons. Two of the ones I'll probably eventually want are the Spear of Tuthmosis III and Minoxian Armor, since they're the only two that add to both Defense and Hunting. Both are much higher level than I am, though, so I'm just hacking through spider-things at the moment.
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The blues I've dumped have included the Obsidian Helmet and five Archon's Chitons. Two of the ones I'll probably eventually want are the Spear of Tuthmosis III and Minoxian Armor, since they're the only two that add to both Defense and Hunting. Both are much higher level than I am, though, so I'm just hacking through spider-things at the moment.
Typical - is it ever frustrating how two of the same item can drop in rapid succession. I had the same with the Turqoise Bow - which I got back in Sparta and used throughout the rest of the game on normal (until I found a better, yellow bow during a Typhon run, finally).
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An important tip: there are 8 side quests that you really should complete, because they give unique completion bonuses other than items, gold, or experience. This means you can't replicate these bonuses by simply killing a bunch of monsters.

The Poisoned Spring (go into the cave west of Tegea, between Sparta and Megara, and kill all the spiders). You get +75 health from the nymph upon completion.

A Proper Offering (bring the sacred olive branch to the Oracle at Delphi). You get a permanent elemental resistance upon completion (eg- 5% cold resistance).

The Good Centaur (find the demons who stole Chiron's bow, kill them, and bring the bow back to him). You get 2 attribute points upon completion, which you can apply toward your strength, intelligence, dexterity, etc.

The Beast of Legend (kill a great monster in the Lower Nile area). You get 2 skill points upon completion.

Lampido's Potion (Ixian Woods, in the IT campaign). You get +6 strength and +80 health upon completion.

The Stygian Lurker (Styx, in the IT campaign). You get +4 strength, +4 intelligence, and +4 dexterity upon completion.

The Dust of a Titan (Plains of Judgment, in the IT campaign). You get 2 skill points upon completion.

Hades' Generals (Palace of Hades, in the IT campaign). You get +5% total damage upon completion.
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