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He.The Teacher wrote:WHY? WHY COULDN"T SHE JUST DIE!
You know, if I saw that, I'd cry with laughter, I know itMaster of Ossus wrote:[Seven of Nine walks over to the conduit.]
"I don't need safety gloves, because I'm Homer Simps--" BZZZZT
Two things:It doesn't invalidate Kims number just Sevens claim that she could withstand it.
I'm looking forward to that, considering that the Huns were the unbeatable ones and all.Darth Wong wrote:I'm waiting for him to start calling us "The Huns" and calling on fellow Trekkies to rally around his standard as he marches bravely into battle to protect the free world.
Ossus uses creationist scattergun tactics, a la Wong
...So obviously the best method is to admit Dark Star is totally right.When Wong says something obviously wrong or that is a direct lie, he does it forcefully, and/or with a lot of opponent-bashing before and after, in the hopes that no one will dare reply. When Ossus says something obviously wrong or that is a direct lie, he does it, to borrow from Han, "real quiet-like", trying to sneak it under truth's radar. But, like Han, he often steps on a stick and gives it all away.
So instantly his whole rebuttal is not about fact.Now, make no mistake . . . Wong and his fellows are not interested in my arguments, the facts presented, or logic used to arrive at the conclusions. Theirs is a vendetta of the vanquished, and I am poking fun at them accordingly. As Ossus states in the Epilogue, the pages have a "goal of crippling Anderson's credibility". That's hardly the statement of someone interested only in facts and reason . . . but it is on the basis of those that I will repulse their attack.)
I love how Mike isn't allowed to insult, but Dark Star can poke fun at people whenever he likes!This is from the person who thinks a single insult is basically a concession.Dark Star's reply to preface:
Hopefully, the color scheme will help clarify the responses to their schizoid attack.
Look at that. A not so hidden insult. I wouldn't care if Dark Star hadn't complained about Mike's debating style.This document is intended to be a definitive (but not comprehensive) rebuttal of one Mr. Robert Scott Anderson's website1.
Better luck next time.
Suffice it to say, it is the personal preference of Mr. Anderson to rely exclusively upon canonical information for the purposes of debating, and in the creation of the said website, despite the clear violation of the Star Wars (SW) canon statements, including the ones from Lucas that he incessantly invoked to support his claims.
In reality, it is the personal preference of Wong, Ossus, and their fellow flunkies to include the Expanded Universe (EU) materials (even at the expense of canon data), despite the clear violations of Lucas/LFL canon policy. To arrive at that notion as if it were a conclusion requires ignoring or "creatively reinterpreting" statements by Lucas and LFL fan relations personnel, accepting LucasBooks and Lucas Licensing statements as having higher authority in the matter, and so on. More on this is available here. To see the debate between Wong and myself on the matter (he lost), click here.
Readers expecting large volumes of flames, insults, and such will be disappointed. I have deliberately refrained from using such things whenever possible, to increase the difficulty that Mr. Anderson will have in responding to these points in a coherent manner, and to prevent him from using his famous "you're flaming, I win" lines as much as possible.
Again I approve of the choice expressed, though he states it most absurdly. Responding in a coherent manner is far easier when one is not required to scour one's way through the Wong-esque minefields of personal attacks and petty insults to figure out what the point is, and express why it is wrong. Further, the 'famous line' does not exist as quoted . . . the concept comes from the debate with Wong, in which I declared that there were to be no flames, personal attacks, and so on (a concept he violated from the get-go, though he did show a tiny bit of self-restraint up until the last round or so). That was a tactical decision on my part . . . arguing just the facts is my preference. Though theoretically it would be a straight-jacket for both sides, I knew he would have a far harder time with it, given his common tactics (especially after the goading and ego-poking I'd used to get him to surrender to that clause). But, I digress . . .
But you can insult as much as you want of course.
I will, however, make every effort short of insults to remove Anderson's credibility...
In other words, the goal is an attack on the man . . . the method will be an attempt at producing rational arguments. Well, at least he's somewhat honest about it in the preface.
[DarkStar]Now Wong has ordered his zealots to flame my humorous parody of the Battle of Brittian as if I was spitting on the corpses of the dead.[/darkstar]SirNitram wrote:Because I thought someone should:
name: SirNitram(Martin Kemmish)
e-mail: NitramTahalshia@aol.com
source: Endless tolerance for idiocy posted here.
Comment: Well, Robert, I could go off on your stupidity, your soul-consuming obsession, your pathetic grasp of science, and your apparant delusional state, but I'll make this short. On behalf of all the people who were there, your comparison of this to the Battle Of Britain is an insult to thousands of men and women who did a shitload more than you ever will, died fighting a real megalomaniac(Not normal people who do something in their off-time), and are scarcely remembered. I realize your high-school education didn't give you any insight into the real BoB, but try something a little less offensive.
posting permission: Sure
You assume he has a sense of humour.anarchistbunny wrote:[DarkStar]Now Wong has ordered his zealots to flame my humorous parody of the Battle of Brittian as if I was spitting on the corpses of the dead.[/darkstar]SirNitram wrote:Because I thought someone should:
name: SirNitram(Martin Kemmish)
e-mail: NitramTahalshia@aol.com
source: Endless tolerance for idiocy posted here.
Comment: Well, Robert, I could go off on your stupidity, your soul-consuming obsession, your pathetic grasp of science, and your apparant delusional state, but I'll make this short. On behalf of all the people who were there, your comparison of this to the Battle Of Britain is an insult to thousands of men and women who did a shitload more than you ever will, died fighting a real megalomaniac(Not normal people who do something in their off-time), and are scarcely remembered. I realize your high-school education didn't give you any insight into the real BoB, but try something a little less offensive.
posting permission: Sure
