ST vs. SW

Peptuck · Post by **Peptuck** » 2007-09-05 06:44pm

Batman wrote:Dude, Ripped-Shirt Kirk is the ULTIMATE unarmed combat force in the multiverse. Kirk-Fu could probably beat SUPERMAN!

But can he match Bald Black Jedi Fu?

Paradox244 · Post by **Paradox244** » 2007-09-05 06:54pm

Peptuck wrote:
Batman wrote:Dude, Ripped-Shirt Kirk is the ULTIMATE unarmed combat force in the multiverse. Kirk-Fu could probably beat SUPERMAN!
But can he match Bald Black Jedi Fu?

For the love of God, don't make me chose...

Chardok · Post by **Chardok** » 2007-09-05 07:13pm

That dude from that other site wrote:BWhahaha. ST shields, weapons, and armor are vastly superior to SW. I mean an asteroid the size of a beach ball can threaten a SD? wtf? isn't that a battleship? ST Ships can move asteroids bigger than that and not be even worried about whats if it hits them.

Yes, a Star Destroyer is a Battleship, in much the same way that this:

Is a tank.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2007-09-05 07:18pm

That dude from that other site wrote:BWhahaha. ST shields, weapons, and armor are vastly superior to SW. I mean an asteroid the size of a beach ball can threaten a SD? wtf? isn't that a battleship? ST Ships can move asteroids bigger than that and not be even worried about whats if it hits them.

You've got to love the logic of thinking that if you can move something, then you must be immune to that same thing striking you. I guess that means a human must be bulletproof, since humans can lift whole boxes of bullets. And a pickup truck must be immune to a tree falling on it, because it has a 2 ton pulling capacity.

EDIT: somehow, I confused the numbers for the asteroid.

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2007-09-05 07:20pm

moron boy wrote:BWhahaha. ST shields, weapons, and armor are vastly superior to SW. I mean an asteroid the size of a beach ball can threaten a SD? wtf? isn't that a battleship?

I grew up in Los Angeles and have vacationed in Hawaii. I have yet to see a 70 meter beach ball. But then again, given this, I suppose you could call that rock "beach ball sized"

ST Ships can move asteroids bigger than that and not be even worried about whats if it hits them.

So MOVING an asteroid is equivalent to getting hit by one now?

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2007-09-05 07:24pm

Darth Servo wrote:So MOVING an asteroid is equivalent to getting hit by one now?

Meanwhile, Dominion roach ships which are a fraction of the volume of that asteroid slice through Klingon battlecruisers as if they're made of paper, and people like this just ignore it. Honestly, there are times I wish you could just shut all of the kiddies off from being able to post anywhere on the Internet. If people were somehow magically prevented from posting anything related to science unless they actually had some background in the field, you'd see a lot of changes, all of them positive.

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2007-09-05 09:08pm

Darth Wong wrote:Meanwhile, Dominion roach ships which are a fraction of the volume of that asteroid slice through Klingon battlecruisers as if they're made of paper, and people like this just ignore it.

B-b-b-but their warp core blew and the shields had a cancelation effect on each other and they sent a transstatic tachyonic pulse to assist in the destruction and the phased-wanker device and, and, and...

Ritterin Sophia · Post by **Ritterin Sophia** » 2007-09-05 10:52pm

Batman wrote:Dude, Ripped-Shirt Kirk is the ULTIMATE unarmed combat force in the multiverse. Kirk-Fu could probably beat SUPERMAN!

Wasn't his shirt ripped in that fight he lost to Spock on Vulcan?

Batman · Post by **Batman** » 2007-09-05 10:54pm

That was intentional.

Szass Tam · Post by **Szass Tam** » 2007-09-05 11:05pm

HELLTANK IS A WARSIE! EVIL SHADOW IS NOW MEAT BENEATH HELLTANK'S TREADS!

Paradox244 · Post by **Paradox244** » 2007-09-05 11:17pm

General Schatten wrote:
Batman wrote:Dude, Ripped-Shirt Kirk is the ULTIMATE unarmed combat force in the multiverse. Kirk-Fu could probably beat SUPERMAN!
Wasn't his shirt ripped in that fight he lost to Spock on Vulcan?

Shut your fucking mouth.

Peptuck · Post by **Peptuck** » 2007-09-05 11:52pm

I believe this thread is on its way to "legendary" status. It is almost as lulz-enducing as Godzilla vs His Weight in Chimps.

Havok · Post by **Havok** » 2007-09-05 11:59pm

Paradox244 wrote:
General Schatten wrote:
Batman wrote:Dude, Ripped-Shirt Kirk is the ULTIMATE unarmed combat force in the multiverse. Kirk-Fu could probably beat SUPERMAN!
Wasn't his shirt ripped in that fight he lost to Spock on Vulcan?
Shut your fucking mouth.

Relax kid. Kirk lost that fight on purpose.

General Zod · Post by **General Zod** » 2007-09-06 12:57am

General Schatten wrote:
Batman wrote:Dude, Ripped-Shirt Kirk is the ULTIMATE unarmed combat force in the multiverse. Kirk-Fu could probably beat SUPERMAN!
Wasn't his shirt ripped in that fight he lost to Spock on Vulcan?

To be fair, he only technically lost due to a tranquilizer finally kicking in.

DogsOfWar · Post by **DogsOfWar** » 2007-09-06 01:04am

The Evil Shadow wrote:Based on movie evidence SW capital ship weapons are below nuke level fire power.

Of course they are. That's completely obvious when you think of how easy it is to perform a BDZ with cruise missiles.

By the way, it's spelled i-m-a-g-i-n-a-r-y, not m-o-v-i-e.

The Evil Shadow wrote:And remember bigger isn't always better.

Exactly. ST ships that are bigger than some SW ships aren't necessarily better than them. And by necessarily I mean that the Enterprise might be able to beat a small garbage hauler. Maybe.

Peptuck · Post by **Peptuck** » 2007-09-06 01:17am

DogsOfWar wrote:
The Evil Shadow wrote:And remember bigger isn't always better.
Exactly. ST ships that are bigger than some SW ships aren't necessarily better than them. And by necessarily I mean that the Enterprise might be able to beat a small garbage hauler. Maybe.

Careful now. It might have a laser cannon or two.

Oh, wait, aren't Trek ships immune to lasers?

lord Martiya · Post by **lord Martiya** » 2007-09-06 04:40am

Standard Trekkie explanation: this is a cutter beam, not a laser.
My response: *laughing*

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2007-09-06 04:47am

Peptuck wrote:I believe this thread is on its way to "legendary" status. It is almost as lulz-enducing as Godzilla vs His Weight in Chimps.

Thats scarcasm, right?

If you're really bored, look up some of Darkstar's old threads here. Also check the "Encyclopedia Moronica" thread if you really want to see legendary trolls.

bz249 · Post by **bz249** » 2007-09-06 05:11am

Is it true that there are a notable number of people who believe that a small sized explorer vessel from a civilization with 300 years of experience in spaceflight can beat a medium sized dedicated warship used by a culture with tens (if not hundreds) of thounds years of history in spaceflight?
It's like a match between a Greek trireme and for e.g an Brooklyn-class cruiser (with the noteworthy exception that triremes are the top of line purpose built warships of their age and the technical disparity is a mere a 2500 years). In such a contest it is possible to use arguments like 'wood will not ignite the AP ammunition'... which could be true, however the sanity of person who bets the trireme will win is in question.

Ritterin Sophia · Post by **Ritterin Sophia** » 2007-09-06 05:25am

bz249 wrote:It's like a match between a Greek trireme and for e.g an Brooklyn-class cruiser (with the noteworthy exception that triremes are the top of line purpose built warships of their age and the technical disparity is a mere a 2500 years). In such a contest it is possible to use arguments like 'wood will not ignite the AP ammunition'... which could be true, however the sanity of person who bets the trireme will win is in question.

Who cares if the wood won't ignite the AP ammunition? Using any ammunition would be a waste of resources.

Paradox244 · Post by **Paradox244** » 2007-09-06 09:06am

havokeff wrote:
Paradox244 wrote:
General Schatten wrote: Wasn't his shirt ripped in that fight he lost to Spock on Vulcan?
Shut your fucking mouth.
Relax kid. Kirk lost that fight on purpose.

Ah, that's all right then.

lord Martiya · Post by **lord Martiya** » 2007-09-06 09:40am

bz249 wrote:It's like a match between a Greek trireme and for e.g an Brooklyn-class cruiser (with the noteworthy exception that triremes are the top of line purpose built warships of their age and the technical disparity is a mere a 2500 years). In such a contest it is possible to use arguments like 'wood will not ignite the AP ammunition'... which could be true, however the sanity of person who bets the trireme will win is in question.

The sole weapon of a trireme was ramming with its anti-wood ram: the trireme would be destroyed by its own attack.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2007-09-06 10:54am

Locking because dickwad ran like a boy who couldn't get it up, and it's already starting the usual spam.

If moron wants to debate Mike there are mutliple ways to access him for a mano a mano match.