Found an "interesting" Board

Ariphaos · Post by **Ariphaos** » 2007-09-05 09:52am

Darth Wong wrote:A long time ago, a bunch of white supremacists joined up and started spewing their shit all over the board. We created the HoS specially for their bullshit, and it eventually became a dumping ground for various kinds of threads.

Ah. I occasionally get asked what's going on by people who lurk here but don't sign up to debate boards. There are some real gems of 'dissenting opinions' after all.

But really, where does Darkstar get off trying to make an issue out of it? He shut down his entire board when people didn't say what he wanted to hear, for fuck's sake.

When you have no friends, you can at least take comfort in knowing they all agree with you.

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » 2007-09-05 11:51am

No you haven't been misinformed, 2046 is indeed Darkstar. He uses the little symbol from his website as his avatar and makes his usual rantings against SDN in his posts and references his site a fair bit. And he and Wayne Poe have gotten into it on the site before in an episode that serves to confirm his identity. That's here.

lord Martiya · Post by **lord Martiya** » 2007-09-05 01:18pm

I read a little of the thread, and it's very funny. I knew that Darkstar isn't exactly a genius, but I thinked that in The Last Bastion captain Anderson was a parody!

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » 2007-09-05 01:20pm

Darkstars greatest asset is that he snows you under with bullshit. So that you can't be bothered to pick through his posts to find his real argument.

XaLEv · Post by **XaLEv** » 2007-09-05 01:32pm

While the HoS was created as a place to which the WCOTC people would be relegated, I believe it was made viewable only by logged-in members due to the invaders from Elite Fitness who viewed being HoSed as a laudable accomplishment.

Lord Revan · Post by **Lord Revan** » 2007-09-05 01:53pm

lord Martiya wrote: I read a little of the thread, and it's very funny. I knew that Darkstar isn't exactly a genius, but I thinked that in The Last Bastion captain Anderson was a parody!

well you're are talking about a guy, who claimed that the metalic peices you see in Vader's neck during ROTJ (when the Emperor is blasting him with the Force Lightning) are natural in order to not admit that SW is superior to ST.

lord Martiya · Post by **lord Martiya** » 2007-09-05 02:12pm

I refuse to comment. Maybe I can sell HIM the Moon...

Tribun · Post by **Tribun** » 2007-09-05 02:13pm

Shhhhhhtttt..... They are obviously reading this here, because they already have reacted. Here some of the reactions:

And please inform Mr. Wong, that it is fallacious to conclude that only because one participant in this thread seems to be a 9/11 conspiracy theorist, all participants are "stupid" or rather to conclude from one example on "the quality of people on that forum".

I have always thought, that he thinks, he is intelligent and educated. He should show it by not making fallacious conclusions.

And if he is really intelligent and educated, as he likes to accent, he should know the differences between stupid and intelligent and educated and untaught.

Only because someone don't knows something doesn't make that someone stupid. Only because someone is educated doesn't make that someone intelligent.

And only because someone thinks that it is possible that there is a conspiracy behind 9/11 doesn't make that someone stupid.

To think that something is possible doesn't mean that one believes in it.

It's kinda funny, actually, that SDN basically retcons every new pro-trek argument into "old, rehashed info taken from Darkstars site"

'ICS proves Wars victory!', 'ICS is non-canon!', 'Paula's wrong!', 'Leland's wrong!', 'Darkstar's wrong!', 'Wong's wrong!', 'God's wrong!', 'You're wrong!', 'I'm wrong!' and so on and so-forth... at this point I couldn't care less about the lot of it.

The original thread can be found here.

lord Martiya · Post by **lord Martiya** » 2007-09-05 02:16pm

If they are spying us, I can't sell the Moon to Darkstar!
Oh, well, I can survive.

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » 2007-09-05 02:19pm

The best part of that thread is Kazeite basically going: "You can't understand our brillance!!!!".

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2007-09-05 05:33pm

I love the way they think I need to somehow "prove" my intelligence by catering to their little egos and pretending that I give a shit what they think. I have a nice shiny degree and professional engineering license to prove my intelligence, and that's worth more than any of this ridiculous Internet nonsense. Really, what kind of imbecile thinks you establish your abilities by futzing around on the Internet? You establish your abilities by accomplishing things in the real world.

Paradox244 · Post by **Paradox244** » 2007-09-05 05:50pm

harbringer wrote:Just a minor point why do these idiots forget about perspective... or do they think they can just gloss over it to make their POV more palatable??

That is exactly what they think, as far as I can tell.

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2007-09-05 07:38pm

And please inform Mr. Wong, that it is fallacious to conclude that only because one participant in this thread seems to be a 9/11 conspiracy theorist, all participants are "stupid" or rather to conclude from one example on "the quality of people on that forum".

Please inform the the idiots at that forum that no one concluded you were all stupid because of one 9-11 conspiracy nut. We concluded you were stupid long before that incident.

Batman · Post by **Batman** » 2007-09-05 08:39pm

lord Martiya wrote:If they are spying us, I can't sell the Moon to Darkstar!
Oh, well, I can survive.

Dude, D.D. Harriman sold the moon EONS ago anyway.

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2007-09-05 08:54pm

Tribun wrote:Shhhhhhtttt..... They are obviously reading this here, because they already have reacted.

What do you expect? Its not like they have anything else to do on Saturday nights.

Darth Ruinus · Post by **Darth Ruinus** » 2007-09-05 09:06pm

Darth Servo wrote:
Tribun wrote:Shhhhhhtttt..... They are obviously reading this here, because they already have reacted.
What do you expect? Its not like they have anything else to do on Saturday nights.

I noticed TheRedFear made a post about Federation ships supposedly "punking out" stars, such as being able to go into stars and take no damage, while he thinks Agetha in "Heir to the Empire"

Of course, I pointed him out to "Dark Apprentice" and references to SW ships mining tibanna gas from stellar chromospheres, yet he only accepted his one shred of evidence against my 4 claims that refuted his argument.

Yup, TheRedFear believes that in 1 vs 4, the side with the one evidence wins against the side with 4.....

Darth Ruinus · Post by **Darth Ruinus** » 2007-09-05 09:11pm

Darth Ruinus wrote:
Darth Servo wrote:
Tribun wrote:Shhhhhhtttt..... They are obviously reading this here, because they already have reacted.
What do you expect? Its not like they have anything else to do on Saturday nights.
I noticed TheRedFear made a post about Federation ships supposedly "punking out" stars, such as being able to go into stars and take no damage, while he thinks Agetha in "Heir to the Empire"

Of course, I pointed him out to "Dark Apprentice" and references to SW ships mining tibanna gas from stellar chromospheres, yet he only accepted his one shred of evidence against my 4 claims that refuted his argument.

Yup, TheRedFear believes that in 1 vs 4, the side with the one evidence wins against the side with 4.....

Dammn it, add "shows that SW ships cant get close to stars" after "Heir to the Empire"

Darth Servo · Post by **Darth Servo** » 2007-09-05 09:17pm

Darth Ruinus wrote:I noticed TheRedFear made a post about Federation ships supposedly "punking out" stars, such as being able to go into stars and take no damage,

So they don't know the difference between a corona and the actual star and then wonder why we conclude they're idiots?

lord Martiya · Post by **lord Martiya** » 2007-09-06 04:31am

Batman wrote:
lord Martiya wrote:If they are spying us, I can't sell the Moon to Darkstar!
Oh, well, I can survive.
Dude, D.D. Harriman sold the moon EONS ago anyway.

I know, and I want repeat the trade. And perphaps the Eiffel Tower one, like Victor Lustig... And Darkstar seems to be the ideal.

Post by **Vympel** » 2007-09-06 04:57am

I was going to lock this thread if I had seen it earlier, since we all know about this stupid site.

The Iraq War was authorized by the UN. Jesus H Christ

My favorite, however, was that Iraq was a "clear and present danger to the United States" and "international peace and justice".

Delusional.

Post by **Vympel** » 2007-09-06 07:16am

I'm sorry, this is even better:

US soldiers sent abroad, numbering in the many tens of thousands, unfortunately include a handful of criminal decidedly impolite person(s), lefty plants, and other assorted undesirables. Therefore a handful of terrible events have occurred, such as Abu Gharaib, the rapist, and the murderer.

What ... the ... fuck? So, let me get this straight, an unspecified number of atrocities in Iraq have occured because "the Left", in it's infinite conspiratorial wisdom and foresight, actually planted .... planted!, troops in the American military with the intent of committing these acts to embarrass the United States!

Please, someone confirm this is Darkstar. This is just too demented, even for him.

harbringer · Post by **harbringer** » 2007-09-06 08:04am

The part I love the most about sites like this is they think they are the sane ones and we're the lunatics. I might not agree with everyone here but no one has to my knowledge said on this board that the Iraq war is a conspiracy to embaress the U.S. .

It all comes back to evidence and logic and or common sense. Unfortunately these are in shorter supply than I thought.

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » 2007-09-06 08:24am

Vympel wrote: What ... the ... fuck? So, let me get this straight, an unspecified number of atrocities in Iraq have occured because "the Left", in it's infinite conspiratorial wisdom and foresight, actually planted .... planted!, troops in the American military with the intent of committing these acts to embarrass the United States!

Please, someone confirm this is Darkstar. This is just too demented, even for him.

If you scroll up to the second post on this page you'll see a post from me that confirms that it is indeed Darkstar.

Tribun · Post by **Tribun** » 2007-09-06 09:03am

It gets even better.

As everyone with a mediocre mind should be able to see, I haven't demanded that he proves that he is intelligent. I have only pointed out that his conclusions were fallacious - and that this is not an indication for intelligence. Maybe he is not able to see the difference. The difference is that someone who is intelligent doesn't say stupid things like he has done. If someone says nothing, that's neither a proof for intelligence nor for stupidity. But if someone says stupid things, like he has done when he has made fallacious conclusions, that's a sure indication for stupidity.

But - on the other side - it is interessting how he seems to feel at once as if his education is questioned and seems to think that it is necessary to refer to his "shiny degree and professional engineering license". I have the impression that his intelligence is a tender spot in Mr. Wongs self-esteem. Why does he accent his "shiny degree and professional engineering license" if he really things that he has no need to prove his intelligence?

It is interessting too, how he ignores thereby what I have actually said. His "shiny degree and professional engineering license" proves only that he is educated. That allone doesn't prove that he is intelligent. (Only for people who jump to conclusions. With that sentence I haven't said that he is stupid nor have I said that he is not intelligent. I have only said that his "shiny degree and professional engineering license" alone doesn't prove that he intelligent. All three possibilities are still open.)

Anyway, his answer indicates again that he is not able to address the issues of my response as one would expect from an intelligent person. Because he clearly hasn't adressed what was actually said. Pity.

That's classical Darkstar-style. Reducing it to its vital points, he simply accuses Mike out of the blue of being a stupid idiot. Does he really think he could cloak his rudeness behind many words?

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2007-09-06 09:04am

Vympel wrote:I'm sorry, this is even better:
US soldiers sent abroad, numbering in the many tens of thousands, unfortunately include a handful of criminal decidedly impolite person(s), lefty plants, and other assorted undesirables. Therefore a handful of terrible events have occurred, such as Abu Gharaib, the rapist, and the murderer.
What ... the ... fuck? So, let me get this straight, an unspecified number of atrocities in Iraq have occured because "the Left", in it's infinite conspiratorial wisdom and foresight, actually planted .... planted!, troops in the American military with the intent of committing these acts to embarrass the United States!

Please, someone confirm this is Darkstar. This is just too demented, even for him.

It's actually perfectly consistent with the way he's been established to think. Everything bad is always caused by conspiratorial enemies of whatever agenda he's peddling, whether it be American supremacist bullshit or Trekkie supremacist bullshit.