Battlefield Earth, what the heck was that?

FaxModem1 · Post by **FaxModem1** » 2003-01-14 04:32pm

I watched that movie, and was wondering, why do they give so little exposition on the characters, the world, the history. Nothing is really told. And the fact that one human with a little bomb can blow up an entire home planet was weird. Another thing, the assistant is helping the humans, after they pretty much destroyed his species, how stupid is that? What was the point of this book? Did it have todo with Scientology? and what is Scientology anyway?

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-01-14 04:46pm

FaxModem1 wrote:Did it have todo with Scientology? and what is Scientology anyway?

No, at least none that I've been told about. Except in that Hubbard is the idiot responsible for that cult.

A Holllywood Cult. They're notorious for suing to suppress anything negative said about them. Standard hokey new age bullshit.

kheegster · Post by **kheegster** » 2003-01-14 05:13pm

Stormbringer wrote:
FaxModem1 wrote:Did it have todo with Scientology? and what is Scientology anyway?
No, at least none that I've been told about. Except in that Hubbard is the idiot responsible for that cult.

A Holllywood Cult. They're notorious for suing to suppress anything negative said about them. Standard hokey new age bullshit.

I've heard rumours that Hubbard created the cult on a bet...

Next of Kin · Post by **Next of Kin** » 2003-01-14 05:15pm

FaxModem1 wrote:I watched that movie, and was wondering, why do they give so little exposition on the characters, the world, the history. Nothing is really told. And the fact that one human with a little bomb can blow up an entire home planet was weird. Another thing, the assistant is helping the humans, after they pretty much destroyed his species, how stupid is that? What was the point of this book? Did it have todo with Scientology? and what is Scientology anyway?

I'm impressed that you actually made it through. I tried to watch it on the dish and couldn't stand more than 15 minutes of the tripe.

Ted C · Post by **Ted C** » 2003-01-14 05:15pm

Battlefield: Earth is actually a very lengthy and involved story that is about as suitable for condensing into a 2-hour movie as The Lord of the Rings. Small wonder, then, that they had no time for character development, plot point explanations, or even many of the major plot points. Making that movie was a bad idea.

As for blowing up an entire planet with one bomb... the explanation (hokey though it be) is that the entire Psychlo homeworld is saturated with a chemical that explodes rather violently when exposed to radiation. That one bomb was supposedly enough to start a chain reaction that engulfed the entire planet.

The book isn't really all that bad a read, despite the piles of political and philosophical garbage that Hubbard loaded into it.

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2003-01-14 05:27pm

My friend said it was like he wrote the last 700 pages or so just to make it more expensive.

Brother-Captain Gaius · Post by **Brother-Captain Gaius** » 2003-01-14 05:40pm

I thought the book was fairly good. IIRC, 9 "planet-buster" nukes were teleported to Psychlo, not just the one flimsy tac nuke in the movie. And of course, the entire second half about establishing Earth as a galactic superpower was left out.

Sir Sirius · Post by **Sir Sirius** » 2003-01-14 05:40pm

Did it have todo with Scientology?

http://www.geocities.com/xenu2000/

and what is Scientology anyway?

Short: An evil cult.
See http://www.xenu.net/roland-intro.html and you should check out rest of http://www.xenu.net also.

"Writing for a penny a word is ridiculous. If a man really wants to make a million dollars, the best way would be to start his own religion"
-- L. Ron Hubbard, Reader's Digest reprint, May 1980, p.1

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-01-14 05:41pm

AFAIK Battlefield Earth is actually based on Scientology mythos. Which means those nuts believe Battlefield earth to be their bible..

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-01-14 05:44pm

..

And Darth Vader did say unto Luke, "You are my son, Luke" and Luke doth reply with great shock and surprise and Darth Vader said to him "Join me my son". - SW 1:5:5

Amen.

And a women.

Brother-Captain Gaius · Post by **Brother-Captain Gaius** » 2003-01-14 05:52pm

kojikun wrote:..

And Darth Vader did say unto Luke, "You are my son, Luke" and Luke doth reply with great shock and surprise and Darth Vader said to him "Join me my son". - SW 1:5:5

Amen.

And a women.

Hallelujah! Praise the Force, for I am saved! I can feel it flowing through me!

Sokar · Post by **Sokar** » 2003-01-14 06:32pm

The movie was utter crap, however the book is a good pulp sci-fi read. Hubbard wrote it originaly for a monthly scifi mag who paid him by the word, so he managed to milk it out to around a 1,000 pages or so! Its very camp , but far better than that hokey movie. It has some great techno-babble and characters that are fun to read about. "Battlefield Earth" and the "Invaders Plan" series are classiscs of camp sci-fi by Hubbard.

I too have heard the bet rumor concerning Scientology, seeing as it made Hubbard fantastically wealthy it was a good bet and plan on his part.

Biddybot · Post by **Biddybot** » 2003-01-14 07:07pm

"This is Terl, your chief of security! Exterminate all man-animals at will! And happy hunting!"

BATTLEFIELD EARTH is a movie of Classic Turkey proportions and turkey movies NEVER make sense--it's one of their defining characteristics. I fully expect that this movie will become a well-loved staple at bad movie festivals in the future as more and more people become aware of its unique charms.

I'm still stuck on how the caveman humans managed to keep their horses so beautifully groomed and got those fighter planes started right up after, oh, only a millenium or so of disuse. I loved the arty scene of the evil sneering Psychlo guards hosing down their freshly captured human prey in loving slo-mo--it was just so...weird.

The gang at 'The Movie Show On Radio' did the best tribute to BATTLEFIELD EARTH via their review of its DVD/VHS release. They may be pro reviewers, but by gawd, they know grade-A prime gobbler when they see it--and celebrate it.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-01-14 09:25pm

Biddybot wrote:"This is Terl, your chief of security! Exterminate all man-animals at will! And happy hunting!"

BATTLEFIELD EARTH is a movie of Classic Turkey proportions and turkey movies NEVER make sense--it's one of their defining characteristics. I fully expect that this movie will become a well-loved staple at bad movie festivals in the future as more and more people become aware of its unique charms.

I'm still stuck on how the caveman humans managed to keep their horses so beautifully groomed and got those fighter planes started right up after, oh, only a millenium or so of disuse. I loved the arty scene of the evil sneering Psychlo guards hosing down their freshly captured human prey in loving slo-mo--it was just so...weird.

The gang at 'The Movie Show On Radio' did the best tribute to BATTLEFIELD EARTH via their review of its DVD/VHS release. They may be pro reviewers, but by gawd, they know grade-A prime gobbler when they see it--and celebrate it.

And don't forget, they managed to learn how to takeoff, fly, and be able to competently fight with harriers in one week.

Isil`Zha · Post by **Isil`Zha** » 2003-01-15 01:41pm

neoolong wrote:
Biddybot wrote:"This is Terl, your chief of security! Exterminate all man-animals at will! And happy hunting!"

BATTLEFIELD EARTH is a movie of Classic Turkey proportions and turkey movies NEVER make sense--it's one of their defining characteristics. I fully expect that this movie will become a well-loved staple at bad movie festivals in the future as more and more people become aware of its unique charms.

I'm still stuck on how the caveman humans managed to keep their horses so beautifully groomed and got those fighter planes started right up after, oh, only a millenium or so of disuse. I loved the arty scene of the evil sneering Psychlo guards hosing down their freshly captured human prey in loving slo-mo--it was just so...weird.

The gang at 'The Movie Show On Radio' did the best tribute to BATTLEFIELD EARTH via their review of its DVD/VHS release. They may be pro reviewers, but by gawd, they know grade-A prime gobbler when they see it--and celebrate it.
And don't forget, they managed to learn how to takeoff, fly, and be able to competently fight with harriers in one week.

In a simulator that still had power after 1000 years...

"Fuck L. Ron Hubbard..."

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-01-15 01:46pm

The movie was utter shit; a six-hour mini series still would be too short to get everything across. The book was not that bad, but I wouldn't recommend it to any one.

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2003-01-15 01:58pm

Scientology claims to be a religion, but in reality it's either a metaphysical and philosophic system... or an excuse for charging ludicrous amounts of money for pseudopsychiatric "help-your-self" events.

The Dark · Post by **The Dark** » 2003-01-15 03:56pm

Hubbard wrote that he wanted to be known for writing the longest sci-fi book; unfortunately, it's also one of the worst.

Crazy_Vasey · Post by **Crazy_Vasey** » 2003-01-15 04:01pm

The book was bad enough for me thank you very much. The chances of me ever watching the film are very, very small.

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2003-01-15 04:20pm

Simon H.Johansen wrote:Scientology claims to be a religion, but in reality it's either a metaphysical and philosophic system... or an excuse for charging ludicrous amounts of money for pseudopsychiatric "help-your-self" events.

Did anyone ever catch the Episode of Millenium where they lampooned Scientology? It was too funny for words. Charles Nelson Riley reprised his Jose Chung character from the X-Files.

L. Ron Hubbard was "Onan Gupta"

Scientology was Selfosiphy.

Scientology's bio-feedback machine was a "Onanograph" ROFLMAO on that one! (the sin of Onan is masturbation FYI)

Frank Black asks Peter Watts how he can face the evil of the universe and be afraid of Selfosiphists, he replies "Because demons can't sue you to the fullest extent of the law".

I really miss that show, even though it spiraled down the bowl in the last season........

johnmarkley · Post by **johnmarkley** » 2003-01-15 05:02pm

My best friend and I once watched "Battlefield Earth" and "The Godfather" back-to-back. That was a weird night...

Biddybot · Post by **Biddybot** » 2003-01-15 05:38pm

To anyone scared off from watching this movie because of a bad experience with the book, trust me, it is nothing like the book. The book I thought so crummy that I nominated it as my worst SF/Fantasy book EVER. I couldn't finish it, it was so boring. The movie, by contrast, is an entertaining hoot from start to finish. If you like and laugh at movies like FIRE MAIDENS FROM OUTER SPACE, THE BEAST OF YUCCA FLATS and good ol' PLAN NINE FROM OUTER SPACE, then you should love BATTLEFIELD EARTH.

Here are more scenes I loved:

Three of our human heroes, stuffed in a Psychlo ship cockpit, try to navigate off an old Rand McNally road map or something and can't figure out why they're not flying over actual lines on the ground as depicted on the map...

Big mean alien Terl sets a gang of man-animal slaves to work mining out a strip of gold from a cliff face. They're unsupervised for the most part and have two weeks (or so) to complete their task. Instead of slaving away at the cliff, our heroes nip down to Fort Knox and bring back a shipload of gold ingots. When Terl comes back for his gold, he accepts the gold as is without much suspicion!!!

Terl wants to know what man-animals love eating best so he will have something to tempt his captives with once they're trained and working. He finds out by starving a couple of our heroes for a few days, then sneakily lets them 'escape', all the while watching them via little button camera thingees on their meager rags. Once they think themselves safe, the poor starving sods naturally grab the first edible thing they can find, which happens to be a rat. For the rest of the movie, Terl is convinced that there's nothing man-animals like eating better than rats...

I swear that I'm not making the above up and that it's actually in the movie!

Crazy_Vasey · Post by **Crazy_Vasey** » 2003-01-15 05:41pm

That last one with the rats happened in the book as well.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2003-01-15 06:10pm

Crazy_Vasey wrote:That last one with the rats happened in the book as well.

It must have been a severe blow to human pride to be taken over by such fucktards.

Though having said that, it must've been equally painful in explaining just how exactly said fucktards managed to take Earth in the first place!

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