Who else is sick of super sword-wielding babes?

Zablorg · Post by **Zablorg** » 2007-10-04 03:50am

Her expression creeps me out.

This is Titania from one of the Fire Emblem games. Rather well armoured.

Stark · Post by **Stark** » 2007-10-04 03:51am

Well, not really, but better than most 'these are my titties' game women. And not in pyjamas like the Dynasty Warriors women.

Adrian Laguna · Post by **Adrian Laguna** » 2007-10-04 04:57am

Stark wrote:The only game with a female who isn't sexualised outrageously that I can think of is FEAR: the female FEAR operative wears the same shit as everyone else, doesn't have enormous fake breasts, and is just thinner. She's also plot useless and gets 5m of screen time, tops.

Metal Gear Solid tends to be half-way decent. Sniper Wolf and Eva show cleavage but the rest of their bodies are covered-up, and Eva showing some skin is actually justified and serves the plot. Meryl and Olga wear tank tops but also have military pants, a utility belt, and combat boots. The Boss has a normal military uniform when you first see her, and a rather unflattering sneaking suit for the rest of the game. The one exception is Fortune, who appears to be wearing a one piece bathing suit, albeit she had the sense to put on some combat boots (to be fair, she's possibly mentally unstable).

At least Kojima is fair to both genders. You really should get a load of what the guys are made to wear. In terms of showing skin, the first game has Liquid Snake and the second game has Vamp, both of whom appear to have a grudge against shirts.

Covenant wrote:There are limits.

-snip picture-

Yeah...

I can't help but imagine the poor girl's sex life sucks because the dammed things either get in the way or flop around uncomfortably.

Mobius · Post by **Mobius** » 2007-10-04 05:14am

Halo ?
Usually the only way i difference female marines from the male one are their voice digits.

Edit: and Miranda Keyes isn't what we'd call overly sexualized

Dooey Jo · Post by **Dooey Jo** » 2007-10-04 06:41am

Vympel wrote:I'm not convinced "sex sells" works for videogames. I can't fathom why anyone would buy this game because the game's protagonist is clad in a kinky S&M outfit (and leather, to boot - have fun with that chafing!) and massive tits.

It's because they are all twelve years old and/or really pathetic.

Oh well, eventually they'll probably stop trying market these things as actual games, much like the porn industry stopped trying sell their stuff as actual films...

CaptHawkeye · Post by **CaptHawkeye** » 2007-10-04 06:48am

Vympel wrote:I'm not convinced "sex sells" works for videogames. I can't fathom why anyone would buy this game because the game's protagonist is clad in a kinky S&M outfit (and leather, to boot - have fun with that chafing!) and massive tits.

I wish I could believe sex didn't sell for games either. DOA's existence and continued popularity says otherwise. Look at how many people bought BOTH Beach Volleyball games. What's the fucking point of WATCHING 3-D girls be all "lol hotz and thngs" while trying to throw in weird volleyball and interaction mechanics? If they wanted to make a soft core porn game why not go with that instead of trying to split the game between sports and sex? Shit right, the main audience is lonely virgin nerds.

You don't need to put any thought into development. The game sells itself.

Resinence · Post by **Resinence** » 2007-10-04 07:08am

Halo ?

Cortana.

Post by **Dalton** » 2007-10-04 07:56am

I've modified a couple of posts in this thread because people can't read the fucking goddamn rules.

Anyway, regarding this whole ass-kicking-chick craze, it isn't going to go away anytime soon as long as horny teenages can't get enough fanservice. Game companies know that having a hot, scantily-clad chick with huge tits in your game and displayed all over the cover makes it that much more desirable.

Chris OFarrell · Post by **Chris OFarrell** » 2007-10-04 08:07am

Thank God I've found people who think this way. I mean I keep seeing new character after character in games or certain Anime or whatever who is supposed to be this real bad ass.

All I can ever think is one shotgun pointed in her general direction will rip open her stomach, chest, face...

But I utterly loath this huge brainbug that some crazy chick with a G-String and a Sword can take down any foolish person with something so utterly useful as a gun.

I mean just ONCE I would love to see a game or an Anime or something where a hot chick in an 'armored bra' jumps in with a scream and a sword...only to have the protagonist calmly and simply level a shotgun and blow her into bloody chunks, then comment on the utter stupidity of charging a guy, with a gun, with a sword and wearing nothing...

Post by **Steve** » 2007-10-04 09:18am

Stark wrote:Well, not really, but better than most 'these are my titties' game women. And not in pyjamas like the Dynasty Warriors women.

Yeah, they are pretty bad, though IIRC Yue Ying is at least in armor, as is Tachibana Ginchiyo in Samurai Warriors 2.

Shroom Man 777 · Post by **Shroom Man 777** » 2007-10-04 09:53am

Chris OFarrell wrote:I mean just ONCE I would love to see a game or an Anime or something where a hot chick in an 'armored bra' jumps in with a scream and a sword...only to have the protagonist calmly and simply level a shotgun and blow her into bloody chunks, then comment on the utter stupidity of charging a guy, with a gun, with a sword and wearing nothing...

Sounds like an idea. I will write that down in the sequel of my story, The War On Whores.

Post by **Beowulf** » 2007-10-04 09:59am

PeZook wrote:
Beowulf wrote:I can think of one situation in which a sword would be chosen over a gun: no bullets. I suppose if you could block bullets with your sword might be another case.
Even if you could block bullets with your sword, the enemy would just shoot a grenade at you. Of course, a cliched acrobatic swordsman would just wire-fu away from the explosion and kill the shooter, but hey.

Actually, they'd probably bat it back to the grenade thrower. In any case, grenades weren't part of the question. It was guns and swords.

Lord Revan · Post by **Lord Revan** » 2007-10-04 10:04am

Chris OFarrell wrote:I mean just ONCE I would love to see a game or an Anime or something where a hot chick in an 'armored bra' jumps in with a scream and a sword...only to have the protagonist calmly and simply level a shotgun and blow her into bloody chunks, then comment on the utter stupidity of charging a guy, with a gun, with a sword and wearing nothing...

always when I see "battle bikini" armor (be it female or male version(the 300 "armor"), I think it would be nice to see some just pull a dagger and stab then in the exposed part and say "you should have used armor"

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2007-10-04 11:07am

For me, the straw that broke the camel's back was the advertising tagline for the new Heavenly Sword game: "Vengeance has never looked so beautiful". I remember looking at the TV and actually saying out loud "Oh for fuck's sake, what a load of bullshit."

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2007-10-04 11:49am

why do I get the feeling that Milton Caniff and Robert Howard are probably doing serious revolutions in their graves.

lance · Post by **lance** » 2007-10-04 11:54am

Darth Wong wrote:Ever since Tomb Raider, I've been of the opinion that it takes a truly pathetic loser to buy a game just because the protagonist is a girl with large 3D-rendered tits. It's like that scene in American Pie when Biggs starts talking about how the character "Ariel" from The Little Mermaid is hot. It just makes you cringe, it's so pitiful.

Dude Ariel was fucking hot, I totally wacked off to her a decade or so ago, and a week ago, but that was cartoon porn.

Mobius · Post by **Mobius** » 2007-10-04 03:28pm

Resinence wrote:
Halo ?
Cortana.

fair enough; but isn't that mainly a fanboy creation? she is pretty but is she really a boothbabe on the same level as Lara Croft, Ivy or generic DOA girl?
we don't see her much during the game. (but we do hear her a lot)

Zor · Post by **Zor** » 2007-10-04 03:39pm

Resinence wrote:
Halo ?
Cortana.

This does not really apply to her, considering that her female form is just a holographic avatar that does not engage in combat.

Zor

General Zod · Post by **General Zod** » 2007-10-04 03:39pm

Adrian Laguna wrote: Metal Gear Solid tends to be half-way decent. Sniper Wolf and Eva show cleavage but the rest of their bodies are covered-up, and Eva showing some skin is actually justified and serves the plot. Meryl and Olga wear tank tops but also have military pants, a utility belt, and combat boots. The Boss has a normal military uniform when you first see her, and a rather unflattering sneaking suit for the rest of the game. The one exception is Fortune, who appears to be wearing a one piece bathing suit, albeit she had the sense to put on some combat boots (to be fair, she's possibly mentally unstable).

Parasite Eve managed to do this fairly well too, for the most part. Only one fan-servicey scene in the sequel, and otherwise the most revealing thing I can remember the protagonist wearing was a nightgown in the very beginning of the first game. Otherwise she actually used guns and wore normal clothes the entire game.

Jade Falcon · Post by **Jade Falcon** » 2007-10-04 03:53pm

lance wrote:Dude Ariel was fucking hot, I totally wacked off to her a decade or so ago, and a week ago, but that was cartoon porn.

And what about Wilma Flintstone........

Damn, who are we kidding, she'd never leave Fred and we know it.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2007-10-04 04:31pm

Jade Falcon wrote: And what about Wilma Flintstone........

Damn, who are we kidding, she'd never leave Fred and we know it.

Rob Grant and Doug Naylor just called. They want their lines back.

I want in on this venting of cliché drivel. While I don't want to play a butt ugly person (I see enough of them in reality) given movies never have ugly people as protagonists, I do want them to be practical.

If I'm playing DoA: Volleyball. Then yes, I shall go with that neon pink bikini, thanks. If I'm in the middle of a mediaeval battleground with many burly men using swords, halberds and bows, then I think I'll be taking that mail and plate armour, please.

The whole super person with melee weapon vs. supposedly trained guys with ranged weapons thing is annoying too. Nothing quite like a teenage girl with a wiry size zero frame and a few lessons of karate under her (black) belt taking out veteran adult male spec-ops guys with tacticool M4s.

Jade Falcon · Post by **Jade Falcon** » 2007-10-04 04:34pm

It's even more laughable in the Japanese RPG's, when you get characters classed as 'hardened combat veterans' and they're about.....18.

Adrian Laguna · Post by **Adrian Laguna** » 2007-10-04 04:45pm

Darth Wong wrote:For me, the straw that broke the camel's back was the advertising tagline for the new Heavenly Sword game: "Vengeance has never looked so beautiful". I remember looking at the TV and actually saying out loud "Oh for fuck's sake, what a load of bullshit."

I'll take this moment to point out that the gigantic tits sported by Heavenly Sword's protagonist are not beautiful at all (to me, anyway). I actually visibly cringed when I saw the picture posed by Covenant.

Civil War Man · Post by **Civil War Man** » 2007-10-04 04:50pm

Frisky Dingo (Adult Swim cartoon, for those who don't know) takes a crack at the overly-sexualized impractical female armor cliche. One of the female characters joins the show's squad of cybernetic supersoldiers. Every one of them wears the typical real bulky Space Marine or Master Chief-ish power armor, except for her, who wears extremely form-fitting power armor. The other soldiers find it weird that they are sexually attracted to her, because they don't seem to realize that she's female.

Chardok · Post by **Chardok** » 2007-10-04 04:53pm

I'm going to break with the crowd here and say that I dig super sword weilding scantily armored babes in games. I mean, I think it's AS cool as heavily armored and armed dudes in games. So, for me, a fully armored Master Chief and a Mistress Chief with bikini armor would be equally awesome.

Would either make me more or less likely to buy a game? Nah.