Christianity makes sense to me.

Zablorg · Post by **Zablorg** » 2007-10-08 01:52am

Just out of curiosity, in his first post on this thread he asks for his post to be spared deletion. Has any post ever been deleted on this forum?

Flagg · Post by **Flagg** » 2007-10-08 01:54am

Zablorg wrote:Just out of curiosity, in his first post on this thread he asks for his post to be spared deletion. Has any post ever been deleted on this forum?

IIRC there have been at least 2 obvious trolls who had their accounts and all posting history deleted.

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2007-10-08 01:55am

Zablorg wrote:Just out of curiosity, in his first post on this thread he asks for his post to be spared deletion. Has any post ever been deleted on this forum?

RayCav's were. With good reason. Beyond that, thre was a troll caused crash once, and we might have lost some of the stuff from the real early days prior to the HoS. But Ray Cav's were the only ones purged - rape/snuff fanfics are not tolerated here.

EDIT: and I think we purged some guy who advocated pedophilia (his name begn with an A, I don't recall it though), but I'm not sure. I know we banned him,but I can't remember if we kept his posts as evidence. RayCav was cleansed for sure though.

EDIT2: and testing is obviously.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2007-10-08 01:57am

Zablorg wrote:Just out of curiosity, in his first post on this thread he asks for his post to be spared deletion. Has any post ever been deleted on this forum?

Not on the grounds that poster is thinking and I still find it a blatant dare.

Stuff gets deleted if it is a double posting or a few older things wherein the moderators didn't have a power they have now.

Anything else if it something that is illegal or of that nature either gets removed to be monitored by moderators or altered by said moderators.

Lord Revan · Post by **Lord Revan** » 2007-10-08 01:57am

Zablorg wrote:Just out of curiosity, in his first post on this thread he asks for his post to be spared deletion. Has any post ever been deleted on this forum?

some users have been totally purged but that's extreemly rare and needs a hell of alot more then this (I remember only 2 users from my time here that have been purged).

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2007-10-08 02:00am

The fundies and Trektards are so hard-up for proof of persecution that they still cite the existence of the Hall of Shame as examples of censorship. Because apparently, not only do we have to allow dissenting viewpoints but we have to make sure that Google will see them too.

Superman · Post by **Superman** » 2007-10-08 03:29am

Christianity makes sense to you. Congratulations. The idea that the government watches us through our television sets makes sense to people with certain types of schizophrenia.

Come on. How many people in how many different religions make the same exact claim? "I feel better because of it! It's true!"

You're not as special as you think you are, and you're one deity worshiper out of millions of others.

Soldier of Entropy · Post by **Soldier of Entropy** » 2007-10-08 05:15am

To all who criticised me-Point conceded. I was taking what he said in a much...less offensive way, and in retrospect, I was being too optimistic.

When all's said and done though, he's alot less bad than most of the people who do this kind of thing, in my opinion.

Soldier of Entropy · Post by **Soldier of Entropy** » 2007-10-08 05:18am

Ghetto Edit:

General Zod wrote:By the way, who the fuck is proselytizing, moron?

I was typing under the conclusion (now seen as false) that he was not trying to claim its logical validity, and we were. Eh, I suppose its not that much of proselytising as I thought.

Basic Model · Post by **Basic Model** » 2007-10-08 06:21am

I've read and absorbed all your replies/posts. It's been interesting and informative for me.

I don't think I totally wasted your time - some of you got a bit of enjoyment from each other's posts. I laughed at some of the humorous comments, too.

Thanks for the advice about the Usergroups - I didn't know about them.

General Zod · Post by **General Zod** » 2007-10-08 11:20am

Soldier of Entropy wrote:usion (now seen as false) that he was not trying to claim its logical validity, and we were. Eh, I suppose its not that much of proselytising as I thought.

If we try to proseletize, then how are we better than religious people who do so.

Moving the goalposts now? You were accusing us of proselytizing earlier, not the original poster.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2007-10-08 11:27am

Basic Model wrote:I've read and absorbed all your replies/posts. It's been interesting and informative for me.

I don't think I totally wasted your time - some of you got a bit of enjoyment from each other's posts. I laughed at some of the humorous comments, too.

Thanks for the advice about the Usergroups - I didn't know about them.

So, no comment about the fact that your argument basically boils down to "I couldn't hack it as a human being, so I need my crutch"?

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2007-10-08 11:33am

Basic Model wrote:I've read and absorbed all your replies/posts. It's been interesting and informative for me.

I don't think I totally wasted your time - some of you got a bit of enjoyment from each other's posts. I laughed at some of the humorous comments, too.

Thanks for the advice about the Usergroups - I didn't know about them.

I can find enjoyment in far better ways then wondering why someone spammed the forums with a comment about one's likes. Can you at least try harder then "I shall declare what I like and then bait the moderators!"?

Basic Model · Post by **Basic Model** » 2007-10-08 11:38am

I never said I couldn't hack it as a human being, before I allowed God into my life.

I said I had tried a hedonistic lifestyle, and then tried to be a 'good' person - meaning a good employee, wife, mother, member of my community, caring individual.

I then said I had limited success at both. That was me being a bit humorous. A partying lifestyle was fun - I had good times, in my twenties - but it didn't fill the gap. And later on, I was 'successful' a good career, nice husband and kids, good friends, nice home, etc. I lived my life as best I could. But still there was an emptiness.

General Zod · Post by **General Zod** » 2007-10-08 11:42am

Basic Model wrote: But still there was an emptiness.

So instead of a psychiatrist you picked an imaginary sky pixie?

Raesene · Post by **Raesene** » 2007-10-08 11:49am

Basic Model wrote:I never said I couldn't hack it as a human being, before I allowed God into my life.

I said I had tried a hedonistic lifestyle, and then tried to be a 'good' person - meaning a good employee, wife, mother, member of my community, caring individual.

I then said I had limited success at both. That was me being a bit humorous. A partying lifestyle was fun - I had good times, in my twenties - but it didn't fill the gap. And later on, I was 'successful' a good career, nice husband and kids, good friends, nice home, etc. I lived my life as best I could. But still there was an emptiness.

So going to church n-times a week or praying daily at home fills the emptiness ?
If church activities fill the void, any other hobby or social club might have worked too. Your emptiness (from what you wrote above) sounds more like "being bored by routine" to me.

But if it makes you happy, as long as you leave everybody else to their own belief (or lack thereof), have fun.

Rye · Post by **Rye** » 2007-10-08 01:13pm

Darth Wong wrote:"Personal relationship with Jesus Christ" is not a whole lot different from any other fantasy infatuation with a fictional character. You make up all kinds of fantasy interactions with this person and you imagine how he must think of you, whether he's proud of you, what he would want you to do if he knew you, etc. The "relationship" is not between you and an external agent, but you and a fantasy friend.

They say a lot of children have imaginary friends, and that it's perfectly healthy and normal, but we'll generally grow out of it. I guess some of us just can't handle adulthood.

Just one time I would like to see a Christian come on a forum and say, "I met this guy at church. He's called Jesus, and he's sooooo dreamy. After church we talked and then I totally scored. He said he was a virgin and that he'd love me forever."

Ritterin Sophia · Post by **Ritterin Sophia** » 2007-10-08 02:25pm

Basic Model wrote:Thanks for the advice about the Usergroups - I didn't know about them.

Isn't that a tacit admission to having not read the rules?

Soldier of Entropy · Post by **Soldier of Entropy** » 2007-10-08 02:57pm

General Zod wrote:
Soldier of Entropy wrote:usion (now seen as false) that he was not trying to claim its logical validity, and we were. Eh, I suppose its not that much of proselytising as I thought.

If we try to proseletize, then how are we better than religious people who do so.
Moving the goalposts now? You were accusing us of proselytizing earlier, not the original poster.

Never mind...It's just that I feel that criticising him in the way we did is proseletyzing (sort of, in the sence that we are attacking his relgion), but since he claimed logic, its ok. I have no logical backing for it though, its just my gut sence of courtesy, so I concede.

General Zod · Post by **General Zod** » 2007-10-08 03:24pm

Soldier of Entropy wrote: Never mind...It's just that I feel that criticising him in the way we did is proseletyzing (sort of, in the sence that we are attacking his relgion), but since he claimed logic, its ok.

Yay meaningless style over substance? By your retarded logic trying to tell a child that Santa Clause does not exist is proselytizing.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2007-10-08 03:59pm

General Schatten wrote:
Basic Model wrote:Thanks for the advice about the Usergroups - I didn't know about them.
Isn't that a tacit admission to having not read the rules?

Not really, but she's spamming, and heading down that really quick road of wanting some form of title in that regard.

Sad, her first two posts...she tries. And then this utterly worthless batch of bandwidth.

Spin Echo · Post by **Spin Echo** » 2007-10-08 04:05pm

Zuul wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:"Personal relationship with Jesus Christ" is not a whole lot different from any other fantasy infatuation with a fictional character. You make up all kinds of fantasy interactions with this person and you imagine how he must think of you, whether he's proud of you, what he would want you to do if he knew you, etc. The "relationship" is not between you and an external agent, but you and a fantasy friend.

They say a lot of children have imaginary friends, and that it's perfectly healthy and normal, but we'll generally grow out of it. I guess some of us just can't handle adulthood.
Just one time I would like to see a Christian come on a forum and say, "I met this guy at church. He's called Jesus, and he's sooooo dreamy. After church we talked and then I totally scored. He said he was a virgin and that he'd love me forever."

This will have to do until then.

Soldier of Entropy · Post by **Soldier of Entropy** » 2007-10-08 05:36pm

General Zod wrote:
Soldier of Entropy wrote: Never mind...It's just that I feel that criticising him in the way we did is proseletyzing (sort of, in the sence that we are attacking his relgion), but since he claimed logic, its ok.
Yay meaningless style over substance? By your retarded logic trying to tell a child that Santa Clause does not exist is proselytizing.

Point taken; I concede.

Post by **Lagmonster** » 2007-10-08 06:10pm

Basic Model wrote:And later on, I was 'successful' a good career, nice husband and kids, good friends, nice home, etc. I lived my life as best I could. But still there was an emptiness.

Not to make you feel bad, but since meeting my wife and having my son I haven't felt anything missing in my life. My wife is everything I need for body and mind and having a son has been exactly what I'd hoped for.

I don't understand the 'emptiness' claim Christians make. It's sad that their family lives and personal lives and career are so unfulfilling.

Basic Model · Post by **Basic Model** » 2007-10-08 06:48pm

Oh - my family...my husband and children are an enormous blessing, which frankly, I don't think I could ever deserve.

Bringing up kids isn't easy, but I do realise how blessed I am. I can't use the word 'lucky' - though I can appreciate that's how others might describe my state.

It's simply my opinion and belief that no human, no 'thing' can fill the gap in me which was designed to be filled by The More.

I feel that every time I post on here, I'm annoying people more and more. I don't want to continue in that vein, and so this will be my last post on this topic. Previously, I've wavered between leaving things as they were, and wanting to respond to a point made by others.

Again I will say thanks for your time, and your opinions.