Flood infestation of Tatooine

[Teleros]

Oh come on, there are far more efficient ways of tying enemy soldiers up than zombie waves .

[Vendetta]

True, but the zombie waves are only an intermediary towards the pure forms anyway. And even if the zombie waves are killed, the flood can still use the leftover biomass to create new infection and carrier forms when the enemy has been overwhelmed.

Also, remember that if a host form is "killed" but not too severely damaged a new infection form can reactivate it to continue fighting (An intensely annoying tendency)

[Stark]

How do we know the Flood was stupid for half of Halo 1? Sure they seemed to act dumb, but the endless wave of flood zombies did a pretty good job of tying the MC up while they were repairing the Pillar of Autumn. For all we knew they Flood were playing the role of dumb zombies on purpose to keep the MC and the Covenent occupied while they rebuilt the Pillar so they could escape.

Is there a reason why they didn't just kill him? I never finished the game (because of it's disgustingly shit level design) so did they need him to do something their superintelligent selves couldn't do? I mean, the whole 'human wave-one-at-a-time method' is NOT evidence of intelligence, but maybe 'zomg custodian' was required to help them (although I don't see how since all they wanted to do is repair the strangley intact Autumn and escape)

When you say 'three days to sector level threat', I'm not just going to believe it. You have to PROVE it, and saying 'zomg in halo3 with totally different circumstances loloololol' doesn't cut it.

Call me nuts, but the super-smart machine-interfacing Flood could have just locked MC in a room or something (or holy shit, not lining up offscreen in squads and just rush him with hundreds of guys and kill him). Throwing zombies uselessly against Our Favourite Supersoldier just because Sometimes They Come Back is ALSO not evidence of intelligence. Sure it might not really be a great sacrifice for them, but unless their goal was 'pad out awful level design with waves of meaningless foes' they could have done it better. And btw, I'm NOT a superintelligent immortal mass-from-nowhere psychic-radio galaxy threat, and I worked that out on my own.

And please, no 'zomg cortana can hack a broken door with the pistons torn out to open for MC' nonsense.

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

They "tied him up" by giving him an opportunity to set off Halo? That's not exactly a step up from mindless zombies.

[Tanasinn]

What about a similar situation on, say, a Nar Shaddaa-esque city-world? I imagine the Flood would do a much, much better job of gaining a foothold in high-population-density lower-city slums.

[R.O.A]

What about a similar situation on, say, a Nar Shaddaa-esque city-world? I imagine the Flood would do a much, much better job of gaining a foothold in high-population-density lower-city slums.

They would have a lot more to consume, but it all depends on how quick the empire/hutts/whoever shows up with a counter-attack.

[Tanasinn]

I wouldn't think it'd be too quick: as we saw in KotoR on Taris, undercities in particular can be nearly-lawless places. I have to wonder if anyone with power on the planet would even notice a new undercity monster before it was suddenly clawing at the boots of the better-off.

[Darth Ruinus]

I wouldn't think it'd be too quick: as we saw in KotoR on Taris, undercities in particular can be nearly-lawless places. I have to wonder if anyone with power on the planet would even notice a new undercity monster before it was suddenly clawing at the boots of the better-off.

And again, what makes you think that in a lawless part of town, where gangstars have wars out in the damn streets the Flood will ever truly expand?

I mean seriously, Infection form sees someone, attacks them, person nearby (unless the area is deserted, and then good luck finding a person) sees this and shots Infection form.

Or 3 dozen combat forms start attacking, what makes you think a local gang wont just blast them then and there?

[Balrog]

Or 3 dozen combat forms start attacking, what makes you think a local gang wont just blast them then and there?

If SW street gangs are anything like RL street gangs, their accuracy and morale is going to be shit to begin with, never mind getting charge by a couple dozen screaming monsters that used to be their homies. By the time the gangs are actually organized (if they can organize to begin with) to deal with the threat, it'd probably be too late.

[Darth Ruinus]

Or 3 dozen combat forms start attacking, what makes you think a local gang wont just blast them then and there?

If SW street gangs are anything like RL street gangs, their accuracy and morale is going to be shit to begin with, never mind getting charge by a couple dozen screaming monsters that used to be their homies. By the time the gangs are actually organized (if they can organize to begin with) to deal with the threat, it'd probably be too late.

Going from what I saw in KOTOR, the lower city street gangs have enough morale and guns to shoot at the Sith who were occupying Taris, (I would assume Nar Shadda has even worse gangs) and had enough man power to send some Sith squads out of the lower cities.

That and going by what the Zann Consortium and Black Sun, who had small armies in their own right, I would think that a 3 dozen Flood infestation would be short order if they met with the wrong gang.

That, and SW blaasters are strong enough, and fire fast enough that even a panic stricken low life thug could take down at least a few flood forms.

Also, there would surely be some bounty hunters in the seedy areas of Taris, or Nar Shadda, would be even better equiped.

[Balrog]

Going from what I saw in KOTOR, the lower city street gangs have enough morale and guns to shoot at the Sith who were occupying Taris, (I would assume Nar Shadda has even worse gangs) and had enough man power to send some Sith squads out of the lower cities.

Taking potshots at Sith squads that just wanna get the hell out of a shithole, is vastly more different then some slobbering monster that keeps coming even if you blast its head off and can tear through metal.

Plus, even the Rahkghouls gave the street gangs and Sith squads trouble, and the Flood are vastly more powerful then those things.

That and going by what the Zann Consortium and Black Sun, who had small armies in their own right, I would think that a 3 dozen Flood infestation would be short order if they met with the wrong gang.

Except those aren't street gangs, but intergalactic criminal organizations. They're not going to spend much time in the Undercity to begin with, never mind care if some strange mutant monsters are killing more gangbangers then normal.

That, and SW blaasters are strong enough, and fire fast enough that even a panic stricken low life thug could take down at least a few flood forms.

Some are, but how much you wanna bet some lowlife thug is going to have hardware like that?

[Darth Ruinus]

Some are, but how much you wanna bet some lowlife thug is going to have hardware like that?

Which is why I mentioned bounty hunters, though you are right in your other points.

Though if I remember correctly, werent there some kind of security system in the bars that would automatically kill any aggressor?

[Noble Ire]

Some are, but how much you wanna bet some lowlife thug is going to have hardware like that?

Which is why I mentioned bounty hunters, though you are right in your other points.

Though if I remember correctly, werent there some kind of security system in the bars that would automatically kill any aggressor?

Where was this mentioned? The Cantina in Mos Eisely certainly didn't have one; there's a full-blown armed bar fight and a murder in A New Hope, and yet there's not a hint of automated defenses to be found. The only device remotely like that I can recall is the droid detector by the door, which would do exactly nothing against the Flood.

[Tanasinn]

One also has to remember that not everyone in some futuristic slum is going to be even a lowly ganger. There are bound to be habs full of dirt-poor "regular" civilians who will literally be fodder for the Flood.

[Darth Ruinus]

Some are, but how much you wanna bet some lowlife thug is going to have hardware like that?

Which is why I mentioned bounty hunters, though you are right in your other points.

Though if I remember correctly, werent there some kind of security system in the bars that would automatically kill any aggressor?

Where was this mentioned? The Cantina in Mos Eisely certainly didn't have one; there's a full-blown armed bar fight and a murder in A New Hope, and yet there's not a hint of automated defenses to be found. The only device remotely like that I can recall is the droid detector by the door, which would do exactly nothing against the Flood.

Uh, that Hutt says it in Taris, but I just remember thats in the Upper cantina, with the rich people and such.

I remembered something kinda similar said by Zax, though, but Im not 100% on that one.

[Balrog]

Which is why I mentioned bounty hunters, though you are right in your other points.

Perhaps, but most bounty hunters are going to care more about looking out for themselves then yet another Undercity problem. Unless they get hired for some reason, that still doesn't guarantee success.

Though if I remember correctly, werent there some kind of security system in the bars that would automatically kill any aggressor?

In the high-class pubs, but doubtful there'd be anything in the lower parts of the city, much less enough to stop a determined Flood attack.

[TheFeniX]

Which is why I mentioned bounty hunters, though you are right in your other points.

Though if I remember correctly, werent there some kind of security system in the bars that would automatically kill any aggressor?

Where was this mentioned? The Cantina in Mos Eisely certainly didn't have one; there's a full-blown armed bar fight and a murder in A New Hope, and yet there's not a hint of automated defenses to be found. The only device remotely like that I can recall is the droid detector by the door, which would do exactly nothing against the Flood.

Uh, that Hutt says it in Taris, but I just remember thats in the Upper cantina, with the rich people and such.

I remembered something kinda similar said by Zax, though, but Im not 100% on that one.

Isn't that the cantina where you can talk shit to the 4ft bounty hunter guy who wears underwear on his head and he'll gun you down in two shots? If so, there are no defenses there, unless they only exist in the back. I could have the cantinas mixed up though, it's been years.

[Darth Ruinus]

Where was this mentioned? The Cantina in Mos Eisely certainly didn't have one; there's a full-blown armed bar fight and a murder in A New Hope, and yet there's not a hint of automated defenses to be found. The only device remotely like that I can recall is the droid detector by the door, which would do exactly nothing against the Flood.

Uh, that Hutt says it in Taris, but I just remember thats in the Upper cantina, with the rich people and such.

I remembered something kinda similar said by Zax, though, but Im not 100% on that one.

Isn't that the cantina where you can talk shit to the 4ft bounty hunter guy who wears underwear on his head and he'll gun you down in two shots? If so, there are no defenses there, unless they only exist in the back. I could have the cantinas mixed up though, it's been years.

Bendak, when you tell him you are going to collect the bounty on him he says something along the lines of "pull a gun on my here and the defense grid will blast you faster than you can something"

I think you are thinking about the suppressor field that stops deaths from occuring during the duels.