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Parents Kidnap Daughter, Try To Force Abortion

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And they get off with zero jail time:
Posted on Thu, Oct. 11, 2007

Couple who tried to force abortion on daughter granted a no-jail plea

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PORTLAND, Maine - A couple accused of kidnapping their daughter to force her to have an abortion last year have reached a plea agreement in which they will serve no time behind bars, the couple's lawyer said yesterday.

Nicholas and Lola Kampf have agreed to plead guilty tomorrow to misdemeanor assault and disorderly conduct charges to resolve the case, said Thomas Hallett, Nicholas Kampf's attorney.

Under the agreement, the couple will avoid jail time.

The Kampfs' daughter, Katelyn, 20, said she would be in court to voice her opposition to the decision to drop kidnapping charges.

"What I've been looking for is some sort of justice," she said. "Them walking away with a misdemeanor is certainly not that."

The Kampfs were accused of tying up their daughter, forcing her into their car and heading toward New York for an abortion. They were arrested last September at a shopping center in Salem, N.H., after Katelyn fled and called police on a cell phone. Police found a .22-caliber rifle, duct tape and rope in the car.

Breaking her silence on the ordeal, Katelyn Kampf described a harrowing experience that ensued Sept. 15, 2006, after her parents learned she was pregnant with a mixed-race baby. Kampf is white. Reme Johnson, her boyfriend at the time, is black.

"At one point I did make it out the door and I ran down the driveway," she said. "I didn't make it 100 feet. My dad chased me and tackled me in the driveway. I had grass stains all over my clothes. I was screaming for help."

Kampf, who gave birth in January to a son, D'Andre Johnson, said it's hard to imagine reconciliation with her parents.

"Honestly, I don't think that I could ever face my parents again after what we went through," she said. "My mom spit in my face, said she wished she never had me, said I'd ruined her life."

Reme Johnson is being held by immigration officials and is to be deported to his native South Africa after serving time for receiving stolen property.
Yeah, I have to imagine it would be difficult to imagine "reconciliation" in this case. I hate to say it, but if I was this young woman, I'd move away from wherever I lived, change my name and just forget all about the folks.

Yeesh.

But seriously no jail time? Something ain't quite right with that, methinks...
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems the reason the girl's parents went nuts was because they were NOT happy that their daughter had sex with a black man and was pregnant with a mixed-race baby. Seriously, shouldn't the parents be tried for a hate crime?
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What the fuck? Kidnapping and conspiracy for involuntary medical intrusion for a racist cause cannot be properly prosecuted? :shock:
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I'm finding it rather ironic that their last name is "Kampf".
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Adrian Laguna wrote:I'm finding it rather ironic that their last name is "Kampf".
I think it may not be a coincidence.
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Why the fuck aren't federal prosecutors involved in this?
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They... walk?!

They walk!?

:WTF:?!?!

How is this even possible? What kind of bullshit is this!

Hate crime MY ASS they KIDNAPPED a woman! They tied her up and abused her! And they get off with a misdemeanor!?

Is there some well hidden fact hidden deep, deep beneath this, some amazing twist? If not this is well and truly messed up.
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Compare the outrage over the Jena 6 bullshit to this. It's quite readily apparent that nobody will get upset over this; and, if someone in the African-American community should voice their opinion on it, they'll be immediately shouted-down as 'radical'. It's the way capitalist culture operates: to create a perpetual economic underclass, one must first find a way by which to link the crimes they will inevitably commit to an intrinsic aspect of their being (race). Racism has always, in the end, come down to a question of economics; one says "nigger" because one does not have to acknowledge the possibility of a change in position when one says "proletarian".
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Flagg wrote:Why the fuck aren't federal prosecutors involved in this?
Well, this happened in September, 2006 and according to a story from then, Federal charges were considered, because of the crossing state lines aspect:
Monday, September 18, 2006

Defense says parents did not threaten or kidnap pregnant daughter

SALEM, N.H. -- A Maine couple, infuriated that their 19-year-old daughter was pregnant, tied her up, loaded her into their Lexus and headed to New York to force her to get an abortion, police said.

"Her parents chased her out into the yard, grabbed and tied her hands and feet together," Salem Police Officer Sean Marino wrote in a court affidavit. "Katelyn states that her father then carried her to their car and they headed toward New Hampshire."

Katelyn Kampf escaped Friday at a shopping center in Salem and called police, authorities said.

Real estate developer Nicholas Kampf, 54, and his wife, Lola, 53, of North Yarmouth, Maine, were arraigned Monday on kidnapping charges. Prosecutors asked for $500,000 cash bail each, saying that passports and a rifle were found in the car and the couple were potentially dangerous.

Salem Police Prosecutor Scott McFarland said that during the more than two-hour car trip from Maine through Massachusetts and north to Salem, the parents repeatedly "threatened to kill the victim, the unborn child, the father and his family."

Defense attorney Mark Sisti objected, saying there was no evidence of any threats. In fact, Katelyn Kampf told police she was not hurt during the trip and that she and her parents "had been talking cordially," Sisti said, reading from a police affidavit by Officer Sean Marino.

"What we're dealing with here is a terrible family tragedy with some unfortunate misunderstandings and some overreaction, perhaps on all sides -- but not an attempt to terrorize anybody," he said.

He asked that bail be set at $25,000. Judge John Korbey said he would rule later Monday.

If convicted, the Kampfs face 71/2 to 15 years in prison. They also could face charges in Maine or federal charges, because the Kampfs crossed state lines.

Investigators said rope, duct tape, scissors and a .22-caliber rifle were found in the Kampfs' vehicle and Nicholas Kampf had a loaded .22-caliber magazine clip and several bullets in his pants pocket.

Katelyn Kampf had been a student at Boston College, but was withdrawn by her parents because they disapproved of her boyfriend, Salem police told The Boston Globe. She transferred to George Washington University in Washington, but secretly dropped out and returned to Maine, where she was living with her boyfriend's family in Portland.

The boyfriend, 22-year-old Reme Johnson, last week began serving a 6-month theft sentence at Androscoggin County Jail in Auburn, Maine. McFarland asked the judge to extend a temporary restraining order for Katelyn Kampf and to grant protective orders for Douglas, his mother and his sister as well.

The kidnapping began with an argument Friday morning at the parents' home. They tied Katelyn Kampf up and her father put her in the car, according to the affidavit.

At some point, Katelyn Kampf managed to hide her father's cell phone in her pants, McFarland said. When Nicholas Kampf couldn't find the phone, he stopped in Salem to buy a temporary phone at a Kmart. Katelyn Kampf then persuaded her parents to let her use the store bathroom.

She ran out of the store and into a nearby Staples, where she used the cell phone to call 911, said Capt. Bill Ganley. Marino and Sgt. Kristin Fili responded and found "a hysterical female hiding in the back of the store," according to the affidavit.

The police accompanied Katelyn Kampf to the mall parking lot, where her parents were circling in their car. Katelyn Kampf got into Marino's cruiser while Fili pulled over her parents. When Lola Kampf opened the passenger side door, Fili spotted rope, duct tape and scissors, she said Monday.

"They told us initially they did take her here against her will, but they denied tying her up initially," Fili said. Although Katelyn Kampf was not injured, "Obviously what happened was a crime. She was taken against her will," she said.

Sisti said that based on the police affidavit, there was no evidence Katelyn was tied up while in New Hampshire.

"It's not a kidnapping. She freely went her own way ... without pursuit by either parent," he said.

Authorities in Maine were investigating what led up to the kidnapping, but said the parents apparently thought that, in light of their daughter's stage of pregnancy and differing state abortion laws, the abortion should be performed in New York.

Maine law prohibits the termination of pregnancy after the fetus is able to live outside the uterus unless the mother's life or health is at stake. While the law does not specify an age, it is generally between 20 and 27 weeks of pregnancy, said Dr. Dora Ann Mills, director of the Maine Center for Disease Control and Prevention. New York law prohibits abortions after the 24th week of pregnancy unless the mother's life is at stake.

Salem police declined to say how far along Katelyn Kampf's pregnancy was, but WMUR-TV said it was about 20 weeks.

The Kampfs moved from New York to Maine in the mid-1980s, and bought several properties in Portland. They renovated and sold the State Theater several years ago.
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Yeah, that's why I want to know where the fuck the feds are in this. They crossed state lines for fucks sake.
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Flagg wrote:Yeah, that's why I want to know where the fuck the feds are in this. They crossed state lines for fucks sake.
If the information is out there, I've found it yet. It's rather puzzling.
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I'm having trouble finding anyone in this story I'd feel like extending sympathy to. The parents are scum for trying to force their daughter into an abortion at gunpoint, and the daughter is a flaming moron for getting knocked up at 19 by a criminal facing deportation. You'd think this kind of mess is likely to happen in homes where someone doesn't have their head screwed on straight, and here we have a whole nest of them in one place.
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Lagmonster wrote:and the daughter is a flaming moron for getting knocked up at 19 by a criminal facing deportation.
Hes not facing deportion, hes from all signs an american citizen. He was arrested for the therft AFTER this happened too.
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Lots of people make the stupid decision to get pregnant at a young age, or date someone of questionable morals. That doesn't remotely compare to kidnapping someone at gunpoint for eugenicist purposes. There's plenty of sympathy here. Namely, toward a kid, granted, a dumb kid, who nonetheless had her family destroy itself over their effort to emulate the SS in aborting her fetus against her will.
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Re: Parents Kidnap Daughter, Try To Force Abortion

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And they get off with zero jail time:
Posted on Thu, Oct. 11, 2007

Couple who tried to force abortion on daughter granted a no-jail plea

Associated Press

Reme Johnson is being held by immigration officials and is to be deported to his native South Africa after serving time for receiving stolen property.
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Master of Cards wrote:
Lagmonster wrote:and the daughter is a flaming moron for getting knocked up at 19 by a criminal facing deportation.
Hes not facing deportion, hes from all signs an american citizen. He was arrested for the therft AFTER this happened too.
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Reme Johnson is being held by immigration officials and is to be deported to his native South Africa after serving time for receiving stolen property.
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Illuminatus Primus wrote:And they get off with zero jail time:
Posted on Thu, Oct. 11, 2007

Couple who tried to force abortion on daughter granted a no-jail plea

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Reme Johnson is being held by immigration officials and is to be deported to his native South Africa after serving time for receiving stolen property.
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The hypocrisy at work here is utterly mind-blowing. It's almost inhuman. Just how does a theft committed by a black African - and not even theft itself, but receiving stolen goods - require more severe punishment than an attempted forcible abortion on a white female?

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The hypocrisy at work here is utterly mind-blowing. It's almost inhuman. Just how does a theft committed by a black African - and not even theft itself, but receiving stolen goods - require more severe punishment than an attempted forcible abortion on a white female?
The parents can't be deported to their native country after serving their sentences, as they're already here. :P

Whereas the ex-boyfriend has already served his sentence and under US law, aliens who commit crimes in the US can be deported after serving their time.

I agree the parents should have gotten hard time for kidnapping, but the fact that a criminal is being deported after serving time is hardly evidence of hypocrisy.
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The Duchess of Zeon wrote:Lots of people make the stupid decision to get pregnant at a young age, or date someone of questionable morals. That doesn't remotely compare to kidnapping someone at gunpoint for eugenicist purposes. There's plenty of sympathy here. Namely, toward a kid, granted, a dumb kid, who nonetheless had her family destroy itself over their effort to emulate the SS in aborting her fetus against her will.
I understand and condemned the kidnapping, and ought to have been more precise in linking my disdain as relating to her decision-making skills as opposed to the criminal things her parents did about it. The entire clan seems composed of loons and fools.
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I still don't understand why you hate her for getting pregnant...
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Glocksman wrote:I agree the parents should have gotten hard time for kidnapping, but the fact that a criminal is being deported after serving time is hardly evidence of hypocrisy.
The fact that he served time for it is.
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ArcturusMengsk wrote:
Glocksman wrote:I agree the parents should have gotten hard time for kidnapping, but the fact that a criminal is being deported after serving time is hardly evidence of hypocrisy.
The fact that he served time for it is.
I have to agree here. This guy was incarcerated for receiving stolen goods, then gets deported.... Kidnapping, assault and attempted abortion (under new york law there are specific charges IIRC for forcing an abortion or miscarriage on someone against their will) and they get off with no prison time... there is no justice
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